Is Anyone Here 100% Or Close To 100% Autistic?

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I have a cousin 4 months older than me that I was raised with. Growing up together I have watched him develop and have seen what autism has robbed me of. And throughout the years he had to be my caretaker. He would totally deny that I am a burden, but I am.

I bet without you his heart would not experience as much love, as it wouldn't have grown to such capacity.

@Blooiejagwa @EzraS Not all autists are created equally. Just as some neurotypicals are sociopaths, histrionics & sadists, there do exist unhealthy autists. This is usually due to a genetic mutation. Since the neocortex is so advanced, the probability of configuring lt properly isn't very high. Things can go wrong. In My case, not having enough synapses connected to the limbicortex, which can be both a curse & a gift. It's like comparing an X-Box 360 to a 2600. 360's are technically more advanced, making them harder to configure properly, thus causing a lot of problems such as the Red Ring Of Death. The 2600 is simpler & more configured to perfection, making hardware issues quite rare. Does every 360 have a disorder just because seemingly most break down? No. I've had 3 break down, but I've had the Slim since 2010 with no problems. I feel for you lf you are on the disorderly side of the ND spectrum, that's tough. But keep in mind that not everyone who says they are disorderly truly are. Placebo Effect causes internalization, which can make an autist manifest disorderly symptoms. That doesn't mean they originally had a disorder. Even lf that's not what happened, society still has an effect. Disorders are not genetic. One cannot be born with any kind of disorder, only a predisposition toward one. Disorders require emotional reflection, which is subjective.

No matter how high the percentage of predisposition, the only thing that can make lt 100% is environmental negative stimuli, which are caused by society. Say you are handicapped & require a wheelchair. That would be classified as a physical disorder. What makes lt a disorder is how the person feels about lt. A person in our society is liable to feel bad about their handicap due to our ableist stigmatization. In an autist-ruled society, this would not occur. Without anyone to make the person feel bad about their situation, lt would not be a disorder. It would still be a handicap, however. But when lt comes to neurodiversity, autism cannot by nature be a disorder. It is an ability to unlock hidden potential. Having a sufficient connection to the neocortex is not a handicap. All lt does is make the individual rational. If you're having meltdowns, trouble emoting or issues with spatial awareness, those are separate issues that are related but not due to autism. Is My autism a disorder because I lack a sufficient connection to My limbicortex? No. Autism has no bearing on limbicortical synapses. Had I been born neurotypical, I would still have this issue & I would be renderred a low-functioning neurotypical (Dark Triad). Formation of synapses does not sever other synapses.

EzraS, you mentioned cognitive impairments, meltdowns, shutdowns & hypersensitivity. Meltdowns are exclusive to LFA's. As an HFA, I have never experienced a meltdown nor witnessed one from another HFA. Cognitive impairments are typically caused by Placebo Effect. Rarely do they result from a neurological mutation. Even were lt a neurological mutation, lt would not be affected by autism. Neurotypicals can also be born with a neurological mutation. Mutation is actually much more common in our time due to our unnatural environment (unhealthy food, overabundance of fluoride in water, atmospheric chemicals from chem trails, sleep disruption, emotionally/socially stunted development, mentally/spiritually stunted development, physically/sexually stunted development, ozone gaps, genetically modified microbes, unhealthy hygiene/appearance standards, etc). I grew up poor, starving, miserable, tense, dehydrated at times, insomniac, joy-deprived & surrounded by dangerous chemicals. Is lt any wonder why I have neurological damage? None of that caused autism. People see what they want to see because of confirmation bias.

People want autism to be a disorder, so they look for harmful instigators to explain lt. What they don't look for is how these instigators affect neurotypicals. I grew up with neurotypicals in the same environment & let Me tell you: lt messed them up as well. So what about the autists who don't have any neurological disadvantages? They're there. People simply don't identify them as autistic due to lacking the traits for their ideal model of a disorderly autistic outcast. Plus, they tend to fall lower on the spectrum, making their personalities more presentable to neurotypicals.

Blooiejagwa, I don't blame you there. This life is awful. But don't commit suicide just because you don't love you.

Anxiety is a separate disorder, one of the trademarks of the point I'm making actually: that the NT stigmatization of autism causes the disorders, not autism ltself. Abuse will make anyone anxious, even neurotypicals.

"But because of his ASD he is excluded and misunderstood and lonely". Well, there's your problem. He's not excluded, misunderstood & lonely because he feels like lt. He is these things because he needs social interaction & is being denied this right by cruel neurotypicals who stigmatize anything & everything different. This leads to Placebo Effect. Now he thinks there is something wrong with him because that is how the world is treating him. He is internalizing this information & making lt real, because the brain is a powerful organ. So he's losing the ability to function correctly as a result of society telling him he cannot function. This process is known as transduction, whereby mental self-stigma manifests ltself physically as well (eyes, mouth, ears). I'm truly sorry he has to endure this anguish.

I know all of this because lt affects Me as well. From day 1 society has cast Me out & abused Me, said I'm not good enough & never will be. People I thought I could trust: friends, family, people I was close with, My own mother, turned on Me to go along with the evil tide. It affected Me. Because of this trauma: I cannot think properly or quickly, I have trouble with directions, thinking hurts, I lack certain motor skills, I am antisocial, I isolate Myself from others, I am far beyond miserable, I have much hatred in My heart, I experience physical pain from transduction, I experience mental pain from internalization, I sometimes make impulsive decisions, I manifested numerous mental & physical disorders that are known to be caused by immense stress (acne, acid reflex, asthma, etc) & I lack the confidence to show off any talent (For instance, I am an excellent driver, but when I'm with a certain passenger & I feel scrutinized, I lose the ability). That's just a handful of reactions to the trauma. If I weren't smart, I would take all of this information to mean that I am worthless & that autism is a disorder. But I know better. I was there when all of this happened. I know I wasn't born with any of these issues. They all spontaneously manifested after major tragedies. I'm not the one with the disorders, society is. It is only because of society that My body & mind engage in civil war.

^ Can you please provide references to the various points you've made. Google scholar and Pubmed would be good starting points.

I cannot fully agree with you on the exclusion thing.

That sounds like you've come up with a theory and idea and are fitting everything into it regardless of what the other person's actual experience and observation has been.
(EDIT TO SAY I realized my phrasing of it made it sound the NTs were excluding them--which does happen eg my sons school denying the special needs kids recess-but not exclusively. I meant more, their traits are costing them a lot of social interaction from kids who want to be around them!)


Not to blame you, as I do this all the time to a damaging extent...
it's a fallacy that I have to watch out for, much as I like to point out the fallacies in others' logic and views.


The NT exclusion yes it happens through certain adults (lazy, mean-spirited, unaware, tired maybe?), or maybe adult's misguided policies which come from (well-meaning) misinterpretations This is why it's awesome that more verbal AsD are coming forth with their perspective, as this is exactly what the dedicated professionals want going forward! It helps with so much. I couldn't articulate or understand most of myself, good and bad and neutral, until reading about it extensively to give myself a framework. So for an 'outsider', imagine.

Children ALWAYS approach these boys. This is not to do with NT whatever.

My kids are adorable and usually smiling and cheerful...which attracts kids to them,... and kids are naturally nice and courteous here anyway... (This city really has great kids of all ages I noticed...the places I grew up in, or maybe it was the time, kids were jerks towards 'weirdos' as they called them).
Sorry for the monologue..my brain is not up for editing my thoughts right now, tired.

My kids also sometimes try to approach kids themselves, which piques the other child's interest, getting them to offer toys, include them in games, explain something, etc. however, they run away before the kid even gets a chance to say hi. Therefore the kids go through me, following the child (either one, this bit applies to both) around. It's like being an interpreter, except the person you are trying to interpret is constantly losing focus, and goes round in a circle doing something else, then comes back.
The NT kids always say to me (and this is 7 years of experience that I am talking about), "what is he saying? why can't he talk? what does he like? " etc. they genuinely want to get to know the child. then when i give them an explanation, simple and sweet, they nod and try to relate it to themselves ("oh me too" regarding 'getting bored quickly') or ask how to accommodate them ("should i give him the truck? does he want to play?" they check with me that they're approaching my son correctly, then speak to them directly "Oh ___, here catch the ball!" etc)
My kids themselves are the ones who are very elusive as they do not know how to communicate, feel self-conscious (i know this for the youngest, as he hits himself out of frustration for not being able to say something on the spot), get distracted, etc.

This isn't a one-off this is most times. The only thing that has improved it is in the elder, and that's after therapy.

The therapy helped give him the structure needed to focus and filter out other thoughts and stimuli better, among other things (he loves therapy and leaps up and down with glee clapping and kissing and hugging his therapists---contrary to all the Twitter "Actually Autistic" morons who tried to tell me i'm projecting his enjoyment).


This is something I have seen happen for SEVEN years in the case of the eldest. The kids always welcome him. The kids at my youngest's daycare, even today I saw as I lingered for a while, always go up to him, offer him toys with a smile, ask him to do something with them, etc.


He hits them or pushes them away, or pushes them with a big smile as the words aren't coming out on the spot, even if the child he hits feels hurt, within moments they regain their composure and go back to my son ("Hey ___, look at this." etc). The very girl he hit yesterday, ran straight up to him with a smile , while her friend stood in front of her when my kid tried to hit her again.

I asked the teachers what they do that i can remember to do too when my kid is violent, what they said was reasonable and extremely kind and logical, and something i was already doing. showing that we are all on the same page, once the understanding is there. the label gives them that understanding immediately, and they never blame him. it's always, "he wants to interact but doesn't know how, so it's his way of being friendly." etc.

Even today the supervisor and teachers both said that to me. Even if I know that hasn't always been the case (...they always take care of him. What I thought was them mollycoddling, making him into a 'teachers pet' etc, was them understanding and easing his anxieties in every way. They said they explain it's ouchie for the other kid, they give him a selection of possible emotions or thoughts he wants to convey in short easy to remember phrases, they take him aside for quiet time if he is overstimulated, read him a story. The kids, amazingly, understand. At least here, and probably from the adult's example.

Either of my sons - they want to flit in and out, get a sense of being accepted and included, but not really interacting. They are hyper, sporadic, often dangerous from flailing arms so violently with force when happy (eldest), destructive of toys that they actually want but keep breaking from excitement (the elder will destroy anything he likes, his idea of playing is to sort of try to tear it apart or throw it till it shatters, or bite and rip it, been through many iPads and cell phones, books, toys, as a result) crave being alone but also go in and out of companionship (the same way they approach their toys, going from one to the next rapidly in a cycle), and no amount of guidance has helped them at least engage in back and forth or side by side play. They care, but the understanding is still developing at a slow rate.

It does happen, but not automatically, I have to be there to help with it all. My kids are far less understanding, so the other children have to make more of an effort, but seem to not mind. (however unlike the Non Asd kids, for my kids, their understanding and interest in the other child is hampered, and more superficial for now-- they are not looking for the 'why; of the other person. i know this will change as they grow older)

the kids who consider themselves their 'friends' (they say stuff like 'hey could u tell my friend not to go there, it's dangerous. i told him he's not listening" so cute!) usually accept that they have to either pursue the child for active interaction, or do their own thing and let the child go in and out, engaging and disengaging as they wish.

ugh I cant explain this to you correctly esp for the elder, without filming it and obviously I wont do that for privacy reasons.

As kids get older, their interests become so specific, and they grow faster socially, it's not exactly snobbery, they just don't get it. The kids to whom it's explained, are wonderful .It's all about awareness, and supporting the Autistic person according to their comfort level while challenging them to engage longer.

I realized my preceding post is almost negating your experience of trauma, exclusion, blame, etc (trust me that was my own experience too, to what degree in comparison to you i don't knw, but it can't be ignored).

I don't mean to ignore that bit. I got too side-tracked talking endlessly about my kids (which is annoying + irrelevant for others) with too many details.

It seems a vast change IS happening, in a good way, for the next generation, thanks to the experiences (trauma and all) of those older than them, the conversation expanding, etc. It makes me quite jealous to be honest.

But then you also see the old way of thinking lingering in people who should know better, tendency to blame, gaslight, and use autism or 'crazy' etc, to explain everything away in an unfair, abusive way.

It's very confusing, to be honest.

I don't negate your experience, but I did want to point out that basically my kids ARE impaired and directly ASd-related (this social bit is just one aspect). That the label has been used by some to actually include them to whatever extent possible. There is the bad side, too, seen for the elder by certain (fired) professionals, certain people...

@Your_Boy where did you come up with all this? I have seen a lot of what you have said before, so I am wondering where you found it. Although I know it's obviously out on the internet and I can probably pin it down just by searching 'autism next step in evolution'.


Basically from my experience there are two types of autistics when it comes to this.

Those who were diagnosed with significant classic autism at an early age via extensive testing and evaluation that continued periodically throughout their childhood.

And those who were diagnosed with mild autism at a later age via minimal testing and evaluation.

So far from what I have seen, those who have presented pretty much the same definition of autism as you have, fit the latter description.

They write off most or all of the disorders of significant classic autism as being; a mutation or glitch. Due to comorbids. As being psychosomatic. As a result of socio-environmental conditioning.

So what's left to qualify as a next step in evolution 2.0 autistic, is someone who has minimal autism that was diagnosed via minimal testing and evaluation (or is self diagnosed) who spends a lot of time on the internet reading stuff written by others with mild/minimal autism who believe they are a super-person, an indigo child and so on.

Are you ever feel lonely Your_Boy?

I guess a way to test the super-being position would be to see how such people stack up against NTs who are matched for age/IQ/handedness /sex etc .