29 Jan 2012, 1:37 pm
Jhomes wrote:
thanx for your suggestions...
i hope you all will help me....I've tried in some indian discussion forums and i got huge response in a one of those all forums but nobody have tried to contact me except one..... and about my english i have lack of vocabulary that i think main problem....i want to write some thread hindi so most of people can understand it, which i've posted on indian forums but even my hindi is bad
....i know only GUJARATI 
thinking to use HINGLISH=HINDI+ENGLISH
i hope you all will help me....I've tried in some indian discussion forums and i got huge response in a one of those all forums but nobody have tried to contact me except one..... and about my english i have lack of vocabulary that i think main problem....i want to write some thread hindi so most of people can understand it, which i've posted on indian forums but even my hindi is bad
....i know only GUJARATI thinking to use HINGLISH=HINDI+ENGLISH You can appoint me as your official writer! You tell me what to write, and I will write it in english and hindi!
I think you might have missed this post by Lady-ivy.
Lady-ivy wrote:
hi Jhomes, It is nice to have you come back on worng planet. i work as an advocate, I heard you go to college. what is your major?
i can give you example in america. we possible think there are more adults in america who do not relize they have autism themselves. most things in america are focus into childern with autism not adults too. so chould even more asipes in India then most people relize. if you want to find them. it is also best besides the internet to find others with autism. is learn to figer out in real life who might have autism around you too. this takes pratice to figer out if someone might possible have autism by observing others. and befriending them
dont feel bad, your writing skills in english are great, i say yours is better then mine, and i am from a western english speacking place.
i can give you example in america. we possible think there are more adults in america who do not relize they have autism themselves. most things in america are focus into childern with autism not adults too. so chould even more asipes in India then most people relize. if you want to find them. it is also best besides the internet to find others with autism. is learn to figer out in real life who might have autism around you too. this takes pratice to figer out if someone might possible have autism by observing others. and befriending them
dont feel bad, your writing skills in english are great, i say yours is better then mine, and i am from a western english speacking place.
29 Jan 2012, 1:42 pm
Jhomes wrote:
emotional kar diya yaar..thank God i have no sensory problems.. i hate only crowd...i prefer to stay away from them...is it necessary that every aspie have sensory problems??
bcoz i have all symptoms like difficulty in social interaction,poor motor skill like poor handwriting,fail to catch the ball,difficult to ride a bike, fix routine, narrow and strong interest areas,fail to read others emotions and even understand then fail to express, shy nature,don't like to on social gathering occasions like marriage,religious festival,party etc,can't talk much on phone
people get confuse by my talking with them....yesterday i just want say to my classmate have you got your gernal? but instead of using such a word i used word like i have given your gernal to your room partner named "Ronak" and he said me that he will give you that gernal and he got confuse and said "what??"
bcoz i have all symptoms like difficulty in social interaction,poor motor skill like poor handwriting,fail to catch the ball,difficult to ride a bike, fix routine, narrow and strong interest areas,fail to read others emotions and even understand then fail to express, shy nature,don't like to on social gathering occasions like marriage,religious festival,party etc,can't talk much on phone
people get confuse by my talking with them....yesterday i just want say to my classmate have you got your gernal? but instead of using such a word i used word like i have given your gernal to your room partner named "Ronak" and he said me that he will give you that gernal and he got confuse and said "what??"
I'm glad you liked my post. It is not necessary that every aspie will have every characteristic of aspergers. Compared to you my social problems are very mild, even though I'm socially very awkward. Most of your characteristics fit into the aspie description.
Could it be that you were getting confused while talking and giving the journal?
29 Jan 2012, 5:04 pm
[quote="Dhawal[/quote]
Ceramic/plastic/silicone/wooden utensils are available in India, but they are much costlier, and my mom and wife would not be very comfortable using them because they've always used metal utensils. Besides, compared to the other noises, the utensils noise is much less, so it's not really a priority issue for me.
Is this what you're talking about - http://www.inner-gourmet.com/2010/10/gu ... ourie.html ? From the recipe it looks like it would be delicious! So similar to Indian vadas (dumplings). And chicken curry and roti are like totally Indian. So yes, there's a definite connection.
The inspiration is both ways, more about it in my below post.[/quote]
yes that is what am taking about, it is possible my fav snack food but i have not have it in few years. the last time i had it was in new york city at a family get to together,. my granfather sister made them with this green mango spicy saouse. which i know was not a chutney
wow pholourie and vadas look so simlier but pholourie is made from peas instead of lentalsor other things i wander if is just pholourie is just modafied food item that indians that immigrant from India made becouse they could not find the right ingredents needed to make vadas.
all this talk about food is making me quite hungry 
. that person making seem them make seem so easy and tastey am so happy you find this site 
yeah . i have been trying to connect to my roots by cooking also and she makes cooking so clear, am not a bad cook just dont have much experence in cooking.
i think you have inspiration from both sides to make anything become a sucuess. both side will have respect for one of the other. i just wish the world was like this thread 
i have been talking to the people i know. and you remember the list of autism organizations from India you gave me. well and the people i know. say i sould try to connect a couple of organizations and see if they will host our autism society group in India............
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29 Jan 2012, 5:28 pm
Dhawal wrote:
Quote:
You have an uncanny ability to ask just the right questions to get information flowing from me. So many things I could never write before, I wrote while answering a simple question from you. That is how you inspire me.
You can show this to anyone you want. That's the reason I wrote it in a public forum, I want as many people to see this as possible, because this is unique to eastern countries. You won't find western aspies facing such problems.
I mentioned to you earlier that I have my own makeshift solutions, though not very effective. Many of them are similar to your suggestions, and they end up creating their own problems. But I'll write about that later. I'm already saturated by my 'confessional' post, and the continuous noise that was there yesterday. It will take a couple of days for the sensory overload to get over.
You can show this to anyone you want. That's the reason I wrote it in a public forum, I want as many people to see this as possible, because this is unique to eastern countries. You won't find western aspies facing such problems.
I mentioned to you earlier that I have my own makeshift solutions, though not very effective. Many of them are similar to your suggestions, and they end up creating their own problems. But I'll write about that later. I'm already saturated by my 'confessional' post, and the continuous noise that was there yesterday. It will take a couple of days for the sensory overload to get over.
thanks i did not had this ability. guess we all have hindon talents.
I definitely show this to people. they will have more ideas to help you with this.
i like to hear on what you tryed
but take your time
some big western cites are loud too. New York city is one them and it loudness is a nightmare on it own terms. but loud citys dont bother me. just crowed cites were alot of people are walking around. but i can imagetion India's cites being 10 times worest in terms of loudness and croweds. what makes it worse is that cites in India are supposed to grow alot by many years to come. if you went to were i live you would be so
shocked on how quiet the area is.
Jhomes
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Joined: 22 Aug 2011
Age: 33
Gender: Male
Posts: 31
Location: nadiad,gujarat,india
30 Jan 2012, 12:57 am
Dhawal wrote:
Jhomes wrote:
emotional kar diya yaar..thank God i have no sensory problems.. i hate only crowd...i prefer to stay away from them...is it necessary that every aspie have sensory problems??
bcoz i have all symptoms like difficulty in social interaction,poor motor skill like poor handwriting,fail to catch the ball,difficult to ride a bike, fix routine, narrow and strong interest areas,fail to read others emotions and even understand then fail to express, shy nature,don't like to on social gathering occasions like marriage,religious festival,party etc,can't talk much on phone
people get confuse by my talking with them....yesterday i just want say to my classmate have you got your gernal? but instead of using such a word i used word like i have given your gernal to your room partner named "Ronak" and he said me that he will give you that gernal and he got confuse and said "what??"
bcoz i have all symptoms like difficulty in social interaction,poor motor skill like poor handwriting,fail to catch the ball,difficult to ride a bike, fix routine, narrow and strong interest areas,fail to read others emotions and even understand then fail to express, shy nature,don't like to on social gathering occasions like marriage,religious festival,party etc,can't talk much on phone
people get confuse by my talking with them....yesterday i just want say to my classmate have you got your gernal? but instead of using such a word i used word like i have given your gernal to your room partner named "Ronak" and he said me that he will give you that gernal and he got confuse and said "what??"
I'm glad you liked my post. It is not necessary that every aspie will have every characteristic of aspergers. Compared to you my social problems are very mild, even though I'm socially very awkward. Most of your characteristics fit into the aspie description.
Could it be that you were getting confused while talking and giving the journal?
sorry but i can't understand your
very well..and you are always welcome as a writer..
thinking to make youtube video about all symptoms of AS in Hindi but i don't know how to make and also my hindi is not so good so i think sabu can do this taskvideo like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fzzjeN6IIA
30 Jan 2012, 2:54 am
Lady-ivy wrote:
yes that is what am taking about, it is possible my fav snack food but i have not have it in few years. the last time i had it was in new york city at a family get to together,. my granfather sister made them with this green mango spicy saouse. which i know was not a chutney
wow pholourie and vadas look so simlier but pholourie is made from peas instead of lentalsor other things i wander if is just pholourie is just modafied food item that indians that immigrant from India made becouse they could not find the right ingredents needed to make vadas.
all this talk about food is making me quite hungry. that person making seem them make seem so easy and tastey am so happy you find this site yeah . i have been trying to connect to my roots by cooking also and she makes cooking so clear, am not a bad cook just dont have much experence in cooking.
i think you have inspiration from both sides to make anything become a sucuess. both side will have respect for one of the other. i just wish the world was like this thread
i have been talking to the people i know. and you remember the list of autism organizations from India you gave me. well and the people i know. say i sould try to connect a couple of organizations and see if they will host our autism society group in India............
wow pholourie and vadas look so simlier but pholourie is made from peas instead of lentalsor other things i wander if is just pholourie is just modafied food item that indians that immigrant from India made becouse they could not find the right ingredents needed to make vadas.
all this talk about food is making me quite hungry
. that person making seem them make seem so easy and tastey am so happy you find this site yeah . i have been trying to connect to my roots by cooking also and she makes cooking so clear, am not a bad cook just dont have much experence in cooking. i think you have inspiration from both sides to make anything become a sucuess. both side will have respect for one of the other. i just wish the world was like this thread
i have been talking to the people i know. and you remember the list of autism organizations from India you gave me. well and the people i know. say i sould try to connect a couple of organizations and see if they will host our autism society group in India............
According the recipe on that page, it is mango achar not chutney, just like you said.
Google 'split peas vada' or 'yellow peas vada', you'll find many Indian (nontraditional) recipes.
If you can't find pholourie ingredients, you can invent something from american ingredients. Modified food item for Guyanese immigrants!
I wish the world was just like the internet!
Your autism organization is already there in India, but it is in Bangalore. Far away from my city
.
30 Jan 2012, 3:54 am
Lady-ivy wrote:
thanks i did not had this ability. guess we all have hindon talents.
I definitely show this to people. they will have more ideas to help you with this.
i like to hear on what you tryed but take your time
some big western cites are loud too. New York city is one them and it loudness is a nightmare on it own terms. but loud citys dont bother me. just crowed cites were alot of people are walking around. but i can imagetion India's cites being 10 times worest in terms of loudness and croweds. what makes it worse is that cites in India are supposed to grow alot by many years to come. if you went to were i live you would be so shocked on how quiet the area is.
I definitely show this to people. they will have more ideas to help you with this.
i like to hear on what you tryed
but take your time some big western cites are loud too. New York city is one them and it loudness is a nightmare on it own terms. but loud citys dont bother me. just crowed cites were alot of people are walking around. but i can imagetion India's cites being 10 times worest in terms of loudness and croweds. what makes it worse is that cites in India are supposed to grow alot by many years to come. if you went to were i live you would be so
shocked on how quiet the area is.Rather than shocked, I would just be wallowing in the peaceful bliss. For a few days I would just be floating (mentally
).
I wish atleast at night it was quiet here, so I could sleep. But all that later on.
30 Jan 2012, 4:30 am
Jhomes wrote:
sorry but i can't understand your very well..and you are always welcome as a writer..
thinking to make youtube video about all symptoms of AS in Hindi but i don't know how to make and also my hindi is not so good so i think sabu can do this task
video like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fzzjeN6IIA
very well..and you are always welcome as a writer.. thinking to make youtube video about all symptoms of AS in Hindi but i don't know how to make and also my hindi is not so good so i think sabu can do this taskvideo like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fzzjeN6IIA
Where do you guys get all these ideas yaar!! Now I am wishing to God that I was also young like you guys!
Till now we did not think of using youtube's capability for reaching out to people. When you mix the language idea with the video idea, it's sheer genius!
The ideas are coming at such speed that we'll need to keep a list of ideas, otherwise we'll forget some of the important ones. And to think that all this happened in just 3 weeks! Lady-ivy's first post in this thread was on 8th Jan, that is where it started. From page 10 to 17 in 22 days. 7 pages = nearly 100 posts!
Now it looks like we're getting somewhere.
What I meant was - कहीं ऐसा तो नहीं के तुम confuse हो गए journal देते वक्त, इसलिए मुंह से ऐसा निकल गया?
Gujarati - એવું બની શકે કે તું confuse થતો હોય જર્નલ આપતી વખતે, એટલે એવું બોલાઈ ગયું?
Jhomes
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Joined: 22 Aug 2011
Age: 33
Gender: Male
Posts: 31
Location: nadiad,gujarat,india
30 Jan 2012, 5:00 am
Dhawal wrote:
Jhomes wrote:
sorry but i can't understand your very well..and you are always welcome as a writer..
thinking to make youtube video about all symptoms of AS in Hindi but i don't know how to make and also my hindi is not so good so i think sabu can do this task
video like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fzzjeN6IIA
very well..and you are always welcome as a writer.. thinking to make youtube video about all symptoms of AS in Hindi but i don't know how to make and also my hindi is not so good so i think sabu can do this taskvideo like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fzzjeN6IIA
Where do you guys get all these ideas yaar!! Now I am wishing to God that I was also young like you guys!
Till now we did not think of using youtube's capability for reaching out to people. When you mix the language idea with the video idea, it's sheer genius!
The ideas are coming at such speed that we'll need to keep a list of ideas, otherwise we'll forget some of the important ones. And to think that all this happened in just 3 weeks! Lady-ivy's first post in this thread was on 8th Jan, that is where it started. From page 10 to 17 in 22 days. 7 pages = nearly 100 posts!
Now it looks like we're getting somewhere.
What I meant was - कहीं ऐसा तो नहीं के तुम confuse हो गए journal देते वक्त, इसलिए मुंह से ऐसा निकल गया?
Gujarati - એવું બની શકે કે તું confuse થતો હોય જર્નલ આપતી વખતે, એટલે એવું બોલાઈ ગયું?
after reading your words i get motivated..!
Quote:
The ideas are coming at such speed that we'll need to keep a list of ideas, otherwise we'll forget some of the important ones
ha ha ha...don't worry i keep such ideas in my long term memory....nobody can erase my ideasss..! !
i didn't know what to tell him and only some tough words came to my mind as mentioned in earlier posts...you can say we both confused at that time...
read this chines quote if you know traditional chines..its awesome quote by famous scientist...
每個人是一個天才。但是，如果你判斷的能力爬樹的魚，這將花費其整個生命認為這是愚蠢的愛因斯坦
30 Jan 2012, 5:28 am
My memory is not so good , it is good to have someone who can remember all this well .
Here is a cartoon related to the famous scientist's quote.
Jhomes
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Age: 33
Gender: Male
Posts: 31
Location: nadiad,gujarat,india
30 Jan 2012, 8:14 am
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30 Jan 2012, 9:37 am
AngryDesiDoughboy wrote:
I am so happy I fond this forum!! ! I am half Tamil, and Half American, and I didn't realise that there were self aware aspies in india!! ! That makes me happy, because now I know India is moving in a positive direction socially if there are forums like this, and also I can relate to Indians now on a different level than I do with many of them currently, in a way that is much more beneficial. Also, I am happy to find a forum to express and discuss my heritage!
I am half Tamil, and Half American, and I didn't realise that there were self aware aspies in india!! ! That makes me happy, because now I know India is moving in a positive direction socially if there are forums like this, and also I can relate to Indians now on a different level than I do with many of them currently, in a way that is much more beneficial. Also, I am happy to find a forum to express and discuss my heritage!Hello AngryDesiDoughboy, welcome to this forum, I hope you find this helpful.
30 Jan 2012, 12:10 pm
Dhawal wrote:
Lady-ivy wrote:
yes that is what am taking about, it is possible my fav snack food but i have not have it in few years. the last time i had it was in new york city at a family get to together,. my granfather sister made them with this green mango spicy saouse. which i know was not a chutney
wow pholourie and vadas look so simlier but pholourie is made from peas instead of lentalsor other things i wander if is just pholourie is just modafied food item that indians that immigrant from India made becouse they could not find the right ingredents needed to make vadas.
all this talk about food is making me quite hungry. that person making seem them make seem so easy and tastey am so happy you find this site yeah . i have been trying to connect to my roots by cooking also and she makes cooking so clear, am not a bad cook just dont have much experence in cooking.
i think you have inspiration from both sides to make anything become a sucuess. both side
will have respect for one of the other. i just wish the world was like this thread
i have been talking to the people i know. and you remember the list of autism organizations from India you gave me. well and the people i know. say i sould try to connect a couple of organizations and see if they will host our autism society group in India............
wow pholourie and vadas look so simlier but pholourie is made from peas instead of lentalsor other things i wander if is just pholourie is just modafied food item that indians that immigrant from India made becouse they could not find the right ingredents needed to make vadas.
all this talk about food is making me quite hungry
. that person making seem them make seem so easy and tastey am so happy you find this site yeah . i have been trying to connect to my roots by cooking also and she makes cooking so clear, am not a bad cook just dont have much experence in cooking.i think you have inspiration from both sides to make anything become a sucuess. both side
will have respect for one of the other. i just wish the world was like this thread
i have been talking to the people i know. and you remember the list of autism organizations from India you gave me. well and the people i know. say i sould try to connect a couple of organizations and see if they will host our autism society group in India............
According the recipe on that page, it is mango achar not chutney, just like you said.
Google 'split peas vada' or 'yellow peas vada', you'll find many Indian (nontraditional) recipes.
If you can't find pholourie ingredients, you can invent something from american ingredients. Modified food item for Guyanese immigrants!
I wish the world was just like the internet!
Your autism organization is already there in India, but it is in Bangalore. Far away from my city
.I guess I chould do that. but think if went speacality market like an Indian market I chould find what am looking for. Unfortunately there is only one in riverside.
am starting to think riverside is the city my destiny want me to live.
I guess guyaness pholourie is a antother name for pea Vada
It did not look like mango achor but instead look like some yellow and greenish thick dip sauce.
But I mint was our American orangztion and few people from it come to India to do some presenting.
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30 Jan 2012, 12:32 pm
Jhomes wrote:
Dhawal wrote:
Jhomes wrote:
emotional kar diya yaar..thank God i have no sensory problems.. i hate only crowd...i prefer to stay away from them...is it necessary that every aspie have sensory problems??
bcoz i have all symptoms like difficulty in social interaction,poor motor skill like poor handwriting,fail to catch the ball,difficult to ride a bike, fix routine, narrow and strong interest areas,fail to read others emotions and even understand then fail to express, shy nature,don't like to on social gathering occasions like marriage,religious festival,party etc,can't talk much on phone
people get confuse by my talking with them....yesterday i just want say to my classmate have you got your gernal? but instead of using such a word i used word like i have given your gernal to your room partner named "Ronak" and he said me that he will give you that gernal and he got confuse and said "what??"
bcoz i have all symptoms like difficulty in social interaction,poor motor skill like poor handwriting,fail to catch the ball,difficult to ride a bike, fix routine, narrow and strong interest areas,fail to read others emotions and even understand then fail to express, shy nature,don't like to on social gathering occasions like marriage,religious festival,party etc,can't talk much on phone
people get confuse by my talking with them....yesterday i just want say to my classmate have you got your gernal? but instead of using such a word i used word like i have given your gernal to your room partner named "Ronak" and he said me that he will give you that gernal and he got confuse and said "what??"
I'm glad you liked my post. It is not necessary that every aspie will have every characteristic of aspergers. Compared to you my social problems are very mild, even though I'm socially very awkward. Most of your characteristics fit into the aspie description.
Could it be that you were getting confused while talking and giving the journal?
sorry but i can't understand your
very well..and you are always welcome as a writer.. thinking to make youtube video about all symptoms of AS in Hindi but i don't know how to make and also my hindi is not so good so i think sabu can do this taskvideo like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fzzjeN6IIA
Jhomes the video idea is great
. And it great idea to post it in Hindi.you get more audience in India. I know someone who alreadys post English specking autism videos. Me and him have have given speeches on autism panels together. His name is arman khodaei.
If you can Jhomes can you anwered this for me. I aways like to ask people who are on the autism spetruim about this. How did you know when you were different from others
you see autism is one of my obsession. So it makes me very interested in my fellow autistics.
Last edited by Lady-ivy on 30 Jan 2012, 1:28 pm, edited 1 time in total.
30 Jan 2012, 12:40 pm
Dhawal wrote:
Lady-ivy wrote:
thanks i did not had this ability. guess we all have hindon talents.
I definitely show this to people. they will have more ideas to help you with this.
i like to hear on what you tryed but take your time
some big western cites are loud too. New York city is one them and it loudness is a nightmare on it own terms. but loud citys dont bother me. just crowed cites were alot of people are walking around. but i can imagetion India's cites being 10 times worest in terms of loudness and croweds. what makes it worse is that cites in India are supposed to grow alot by many years to come. if you went to were i live you would be so shocked on how quiet the area is.
I definitely show this to people. they will have more ideas to help you with this.
i like to hear on what you tryed
but take your time some big western cites are loud too. New York city is one them and it loudness is a nightmare on it own terms. but loud citys dont bother me. just crowed cites were alot of people are walking around. but i can imagetion India's cites being 10 times worest in terms of loudness and croweds. what makes it worse is that cites in India are supposed to grow alot by many years to come. if you went to were i live you would be so
shocked on how quiet the area is.Rather than shocked, I would just be wallowing in the peaceful bliss. For a few days I would just be floating (mentally
).I wish atleast at night it was quiet here, so I could sleep. But all that later on.
I guess it would be So peaceful to to you, and would you possible take longest sleep to known to man.
funny people say from were I live. They say it boring and nothing to do and they want to be in the middle of were life happens so they wish they can get out of here. I think people don't relze how good they got it with all the quietness were I live.
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30 Jan 2012, 12:49 pm
Dhawal wrote:
Jhomes wrote:
sorry but i can't understand your very well..and you are always welcome as a writer..
thinking to make youtube video about all symptoms of AS in Hindi but i don't know how to make and also my hindi is not so good so i think sabu can do this task
video like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fzzjeN6IIA
very well..and you are always welcome as a writer.. thinking to make youtube video about all symptoms of AS in Hindi but i don't know how to make and also my hindi is not so good so i think sabu can do this taskvideo like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fzzjeN6IIA
Where do you guys get all these ideas yaar!! Now I am wishing to God that I was also young like you guys!
Till now we did not think of using youtube's capability for reaching out to people. When you mix the language idea with the video idea, it's sheer genius!
The ideas are coming at such speed that we'll need to keep a list of ideas, otherwise we'll forget some of the important ones. And to think that all this happened in just 3 weeks! Lady-
ivy's first post in this thread was on 8th Jan, that is where it started. From page 10 to 17 in 22 days. 7 pages = nearly 100 posts!
Now it looks like we're getting somewhere.
What I meant was - कहीं ऐसा तो नहीं के तुम confuse हो गए journal देते वक्त, इसलिए मुंह से ऐसा निकल गया?
Gujarati - એવું બની શકે કે તું confuse થતો હોય જર્નલ આપતી વખતે, એટલે એવું બોલાઈ ગયું?
I know jhomes got a great idea
And I also have great memory too. I guess young have great memories. I wander if I should learn Hindi. To help this couse. It won't be easy. Plus I always wanted to learn a new language . What do you think Dhawal and Jhomes
I can not believe we have taken about 18 pages for awareness. And it has been 22 days
let's keep up the good work. I love to see this though. ( I see possibilities) That is my personally quote
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