AspieForty
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crocus wrote:
That was an informative video AspieForty. One area of research I've been interested in is this kind of body language. I know I have trivialized how much it operates in the world. As for not getting any satisfaction because of the differences in what is perceived as bonding - hrmph well yeah, right. That's an important part of it. But, it's more than that. I find there is such a chasm. My experience has felt like I exist on a whole other planes of experience and expectations and perception. Meh...I'm not very optimistic at the moment.
The more I think about it, the more I realize what I have been overlooking.. the simplicity of it all.
We're appealing to the lizard brain in humans, so-called "neurotypicals". Pack mentality (eye contact, etc body language on the level animals communicate within social groups), and ... once on friendly terms, the question remains, how do you care for your lizard?
Dating sites for instance... don't discuss complicated things. Intellectual themes will frighten off a neurotypical. Keep things very simple. A pet lizard enjoys mating, feeding, sleeping, and the basic resources for survival and sustenance.
There was a particular guy I was trying to convince to do a favor for me, an employment interest I've had for some time. AS YOU HAVE HEARD SAID: "The way to a man's heart is through his stomach."
FEED THE LIZARD In retrospect, alas, I have realized how to relate to him and other neurotypicals on their own frequency... I sent a note through:
"...Wish I could've asked over a thick, juicy home-made steak with beer. oh damm. Maybe I'd been more convincing."
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AspieForty
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crocus wrote:
AspieForty wrote:
"...Wish I could've asked over a thick, juicy home-made steak with beer. oh damm. Maybe I'd been more convincing."
hah...good one.
"FEED THE LIZARD" would make a stellar title for song lyrics
Speaking of stellar song lyrics...
TYPICAL ALPHA FEMALE... lizard brain Courtney Love.
*smile* -- you can read sometime on pack politics of wolves and Gorillas. Humans do many of the same (stupid) things.
I've ran across posts on the web of (completely ignorant) men who claim they want an "alpha female." They believe an alpha female is a "pretty thing". Just as all an alpha male could possibly be about is a "stud". The assumption is the alpha is one that will look you straight in the eye, know your weaknesses, read you like a book... and fulfil all your desires, dreams, sexual fantasies... sure, they'll flirt and initiate play... and rob your wallet blind.
The Alpha Female are not as sexual as they are dominant. That is, when the call of nature hits, the alpha male and alpha female are the only two allowed to mate, by force. Tooth and claw politics. Animals do not mate year round, so what is the "alpha male" really? Among wolves, if the alpha female catches him trying to mate with one of her subordinates, she will fight the alpha male... and guess who ends up winning?
(Same for Gorillas... the alpha male is often *chosen* by the troop, and females have been known to kill an unwanted alpha male.) In other words, the males do no more than the alpha female *allows* him to do. If another male or female in the wolf pack try to mate, they will get physically attacked by the control-freak, domineering, alpha female and alpha male. Real nice, isn't it.. its sooooo sexy, that is, if you're the alphas. The others... do without. No questions asked.
Humans have attempted to create systems like animals, out of their ignorance. You can read about it in the Bible. King David and Solomon were "Alpha Males" with many women.. and many Eunuchs... that is, dozens of men below them who were CASTRATED, neutered to serve as slaves so ONLY ONE MAN could have all the "fun". Real nice isn't it? Dozens of concubines locked up in widowhood, while the alpha male continued his plunder of nice, young, juicy women, and discard them as he moved on to his next vulnerable prey. Solomon died with several 100 women he'd plundered in his lust-fest, and loved none of them.
A true Alpha female is seldom a beauty queen. The Alpha Female is the BIGGEST, BADDEST, MEANEST female in the pack who will rip your butt apart if you stray from the rules of the pack... HER RULES. Translated into male speak, that is, if she were human she's weighing somewhere about 175-200 lbs., with powerful muscles and has a bellowing voice (like a Russian "Helga" a powerful snarl and growl in the wolf world... and will kill anything that invades her territory)... looks that cut through you, "Why aren't you at work earning money for me?" controlling not only her husband, sons, brothers... sisters, aunts, daughters.. possibly her own father and mother... pushing her weight around and striking fear into all.
Sure those silly men want an "Alpha Female." Alpha females in the real world, are the women you see running large companies and corporations... or taking zillionaires like Johnny Carson for millions of dollars. They're shrewd, controlling and manipulative of everyone and everything... and are underhanded, mean, vicious women who know how to get what they want. One TRUE example of an alpha female would be Courtney Love.
When Kurt Cobain threatened divorce, its suspected by millions of people she had him murdered. She was concerned about his money, her career... interesting story, like how he could shoot up 3x lethal dose of Heroine into his bloodstream, and yet *magic* managed to pick up a shotgun and shot himself in the head.
Sure.... guys want an Alpha Female. Guys dumb enough to want one, DESERVE one.
I know an Alpha Female -- my Mom. My Dad busted his butt from morning to night, his entire life, and hardly ever said a word. She was overweight, and bossy, and nobody EVER questioned her authority, including my Dad. Mom controlled his life and his paycheck, and he just kept his mouth shut and his opinions to himself... he spent his entire life, working to make her happy. He seldom smiled, and she always found a reason to complain that things were never good enough... she keeps everyone around her, on their toes, and she's in her 70's. As you can guess, she has a comfortable life, real estate, and established social connections.
I don't get into "Pack Politics" with other people. But for the average person, it seems to be all they want and understand... from the school-yard bully, to the idiot who is only interested in a "trophy girlfriend" to sport on his arm and "impress his friends" -- its about "social" prestige... not about intimacy, and so, I'm more of a people-observer and watch from the sidelines as people continue to make their bumbling errors, and if you ever take a step back and notice, they never find happiness.
They build their relationships on lies and for all the wrong reasons, so how long was it suppose to last, anyway?
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