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21 May 2010, 9:57 pm

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pressure suits DO exist. they are called G-Suits and are worn by fighter pilots not specifically designed for autism one would need an air compressor to fill it nd a good seal over the valve.

I looked this up on the web, and these suits are based on Cosmonauts -- designed for space in "weightless condition". Perhaps pilots too, flying at high altitudes,
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The Adeli Suit (also known as the Polish Suit, Therapy Suit, Penguin Suit, and Therasuit) is a modification of a space suit, called the “Penguin” suit used by Russian cosmonauts to counter the effects of long-term weightlessness on the body while in space. The inner workings of the suit have elastic bands and pulleys that created artificial force against which the body could work to help prevent muscle atrophy and osteoporosis.
Aetna considers suit therapy (also known as the Adeli Suit, Polish Suit, Therapy Suit, Penguin Suit, Therasuit, Theratogs, and Stabilizing Pressure Input Orthoses) experimental and investigational for the treatment of members with cerebral palsy or other conditions because there is inadequate evidence of the effectiveness of this therapy in the management of these conditions.
http://www.aetna.com/cpb/medical/data/600_699/0696.html


It seems, after I clicked on the CZ link (for their site in the Czechoslovakina language) I've came across the actual originating distributor, in Eastern Europe/Russia, and by luck there is a Google utility that translates all the Russian to English.
One link is http://www.dynaforce.ru/catalog/special ... medcine/_/

Their news only dates back to around October 26, 2009... so this must be a new company. (Correction: They state their "suit" was featured at exhibitions, dating back as far as 2006). Is it available in the United States... that's the question.

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Neuro-orthopedic rehabilitation pressure suit PKK "Atlant" was presented at the following exhibitions:
XIII All-Russian Universal exhibition-fair "Regions-cooperation without borders" from 23 to 26 June 2006. (Cheboksary)
Industrial exhibition from 25 to 27 September 2006. (St. Petersburg)
12-th international exhibition "World of Childhood" from 25 to 27 October 2006. (Moscow)
Exhibition "Innovative Technology" from 10 to 11 May 2007. (Moscow)
International Exhibition Fair for Medical Technology, Rehabilitation and Healthcare, which took place from 20 to 23 October 2009 in Brno, Czech Republic.
http://atlant.dynaforce.ru/exhibition.html


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Contact
The official general distributor for Russia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan and Belarus:
Individual entrepreneur Julia Vasilieva
127287, Moscow, the old Peter-Razumovsky pr 1 / 23
Tel. 7 (495) 727-28-19
E-mail: zakaz*dynaforce.ru

Official dealer for EU countries:
EUROBIMEX spol. sr.o.
Address:
Baarova 1 / 395
140 00 Praha 4
tel: +420 608234598
E-mail: rpkatlant*rpkatlant.com, apgroup*email.cz, info*rpkatlant.com
www.rpkatlant.com

Authorized dealer for the North-West region of Russia:
"Medical Center" Atlanta "
191002, Saint-Petersburg, ul. Bent 11,
Phone:
7 (812) 923-59-03
7 (812) 923-29-03

E-mail: atlant*medatlant.ru
Web: www.medatlant.ru

Official dealer for Eastern and Western Siberia and the Far East
"Novokuznetsk Orthopaedic Enterprise"
654055, Novokuznetsk, ul. Small house 5.
tel. +7 (3843) 369-733
fax. 369-840
E-mail: sibprotez*nvkz.net

http://atlant.dynaforce.ru/allnews.html
04/08/2010
04/02/2010. In the Czech Republic in a rehabilitation center Kladruby the presentation of the PKK "Atlant" with prof. Isanova VA
Employment specialists were very interested in new methods of rehabilitation and appreciate a great perspective of its application for rehabilitation.
On their basis will be conducted clinical trials of costume and techniques in the Czech Republic.

24/03/2010
19.03.2010. The presentation of the costume PKK Atlant and Posture Corrector NPK "Reliance" in Novokuznetsk prosthetic-orthopedic enterprises with participation of specialists Novokuznetsk Scientific-Practical Center of medical-social examination and rehabilitation of persons with disabilities. The presentation was attended by leading experts in the field of rehabilitation of patients with motor disorders of the Kemerovo region and representatives of the Social Insurance Fund. Presented products attracted great interest the audience.
19.03.2010. Signed distribution agreement with Novokuznetsim Orthopaedic Enterprise cooperation in promoting the PKK "Atlanta" and the CPP "Support" in the regions of Western and Eastern Siberia and the Far East.
23.03.2010.Na enterprise was held certification process quality management system according to international standard ISO 13485:2003 for the design and manufacture of medical products. The corresponding certificates. (See Certificates)

11/01/2010
Dear customers! WARNING! There were forgeries. In St. Petersburg there were costumes, resembles the PKK "Atlant", which advertised as costumes for the rehabilitation of neurological patients. These costumes have nothing to do with the PKK "Atlant", were not conducted clinical trials, and constructively implemented so that they can have on the patient any positive effect. Require Registration certificate Roszdravnadzor and Certificate of Conformity. Do not expose the health of their loved ones undue risk.

12/25/2009
Dear customers!
We congratulate you and your family a Happy Holidays and Happy New Year Merry Christmas!
We wish you success in 2010, overcoming difficulties and hardships, good health and longevity, happiness in your family, good luck in deeds and undertakings, deeds of your hopes and implementation of cherished desires.
We will in the coming year we will work with you, putting all the experience, knowledge and talents in the medical products you want people to stand up and be full members of our society.
Sincerely
Deputy Director General, Chief Designer, Ph.D. Zotov VA

10/15/2009
Advice on the use of costume doctor neurologist will now be held on Tuesdays and Fridays from 11.00 to 13.00. Record preliminary +7 495 727-28-19 (Hope). During the consultation a trial fitting suit.

18/10/2009
Neuro-orthopedic costume "Atlant" was certified as a medical product for use and sale in the EU and its CE marking.

26/10/2009
Neuro-orthopedic costume "Atlant" was shown at the International Exhibition Fair for Medical Technology, Rehabilitation and Healthcare, which took place from 20 to 23 October 2009 in Brno, Czech Republic.


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21 May 2010, 10:16 pm

Strapples wrote:
pressure suits DO exist. they are called G-Suits and are worn by fighter pilots not specifically designed for autism one would need an air compressor to fill it nd a good seal over the valve.


The question remains, would your insurance pay for the cost of such a suit? Evidently, because this article claims,
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http://www.aetna.com/cpb/medical/data/600_699/0696.html
"There are published anecdotal reports (the majority of which are published in the Russian language) of children gaining in speech, fine motor control, as well as movement with suit therapy, but no randomized controlled clinical trials of suit therapy have been published. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has classified the Adeli Suit and other similar devices as a class 1 limb orthosis (brace). Thus the Adeli Suit is exempt from the premarket notification procedures of the FDA and the manufacturer is not required to provide evidence of efficacy prior to marketing."


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21 May 2010, 10:18 pm

AspieForty wrote:
Strapples wrote:
pressure suits DO exist. they are called G-Suits and are worn by fighter pilots not specifically designed for autism one would need an air compressor to fill it nd a good seal over the valve.


The question remains, would your insurance pay for the cost of such a suit? Evidently, because this article claims,
Quote:
http://www.aetna.com/cpb/medical/data/600_699/0696.html
"There are published anecdotal reports (the majority of which are published in the Russian language) of children gaining in speech, fine motor control, as well as movement with suit therapy, but no randomized controlled clinical trials of suit therapy have been published. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has classified the Adeli Suit and other similar devices as a class 1 limb orthosis (brace). Thus the Adeli Suit is exempt from the premarket notification procedures of the FDA and the manufacturer is not required to provide evidence of efficacy prior to marketing."


probably if a doctor orders a trial and sees functional gains. and pre-certifies then


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21 May 2010, 10:35 pm

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pressure suits DO exist. they are called G-Suits and are worn by fighter pilots not specifically designed for autism one would need an air compressor to fill it nd a good seal over the valve.


I have no idea how I got a "Google Translation" utility at the top of that Russian website, but by goodness, its there, and working. Maybe they have it encoded to translate(?) The "pressure suit" they have appears to be legitimate.

Here is a page they publish their medical accreditation? (Pictures of the certificates).
http://atlant.dynaforce.ru/certificates.html

Quote:
"New innovative technology of medical and social rehabilitation in rehabilitation facilities."
Toolkit.
Author: Professor Isanova VA
( http://atlant.dynaforce.ru/files/metodic.doc )


But its probably all in Russian.

The rest of the page says (translated)
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The main advantage of the neuro-orthopedic costume "Atlanta" is that its application does not require any special, only he has a method of application. The costume works by itself. The combination of a suit with the traditional methods kinesitherapy, as well as part of complex treatment only enhances the effect. On methods of medico-social rehabilitation with a suit "Atlant" you can read in the methodological tool Prof Isanova VA "New innovative technology of medical and social rehabilitation in rehabilitation facilities.".

However, the use of the costume is effective only when properly selecting the correct size and fit it in the process of dressing. Before applying the costume you need to consult with your doctor and be sure to carefully study the operating instructions for the costume. Improper fitting suit and observe the standards of instruction may have an adverse impact on the patient. Be very careful. Begin treatment with short-term treatments (initially no more than 10 min.) Check the condition of the patient, and only after a few sessions, gradually start increasing the exposure time.
http://atlant.dynaforce.ru/metodics.html



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Indications costume "Atlas":
central nervous system acquired and innate nature, cerebral palsy (CP), traumatic brain injury, the effects of neoplastic processes in the CNS, traumatic spinal cord disease, diseases of the musculoskeletal system, neuroorthopedic pathology.

In completing the costume includes:

overalls
locking position of the head (to be ordered separately if required)
pnevmokompressorny unit from the mains 220V (must be ordered separately if required)

In the overall tight fitting silhouette built pnevmokamery, located along the muscles - antagonists of the trunk and extremities. Pressure in the chamber air (with compressor) activates proprioceptive stimulation, which causes a powerful stream of pulses in the motor cortex, increasing the reaction α-γ-motor-neuron system, which provides neurophysiological conditions for the retention of his position, with subsequent rearrangement of supraspinal motor systems control closer to the normal physiological condition. Simultaneously, in a close-fitting suit, selected in accordance with the size of the patient, injection of air into the chamber, they become three-dimensional shape and a ribbon-jumper stretched the fabric jumpsuit. Thus, a universal mechanical compression of the torso and limb segments simultaneously with korsetirovaniem torso. Achieved in this way an external corset provides low power holding the vertical position by a mechanical process to give it corrected the situation by breeding the shoulders, the formation of physiologically correct curvature of the spine, soft orthotics fixing upper and lower extremities, providing verticalization (pryamostoyanie) patients. The costume is easy to maintain, dressed in the original standing position and lying on top of underwear. The costume can be used as part of a comprehensive rehabilitation and as an independent agent in the clinic, ambulatory and at home, in conditions of everyday life. The design is protected by four patents of Russia. (№ 60256, 60257, 60258, 2266082)

The costume is easy to maintain, dressed in the original standing position and lying on top of underwear. The costume can be used as part of a comprehensive rehabilitation and as an independent agent in the clinic, ambulatory and at home, in conditions of everyday life.

Features of the PKK "Atlant":

The costume is easy to maintain, dressed in the original standing or lying down.
Can be used in clinics, outpatient and at home in daily life.
Neuro-Orthopedic Rehabilitation pressure suit PKK "Atlas" is registered as a medical product, and as technical means of rehabilitation
Registration certificate № FS 22 a 2006/3697-06, № 2009/05493 DCF and certificate of conformity № ROSS RU. IM13.V02468.http://atlant.dynaforce.ru/production.html


I think it is enough information I've copied into English, to contact them and find out if this thing is available to Americans... or at least, something very similar to it.


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21 May 2010, 11:18 pm

Strapples wrote:
AspieForty wrote:
The question remains, would your insurance pay for the cost of such a suit? Evidently, because this article claims,
Quote:
http://www.aetna.com/cpb/medical/data/600_699/0696.html
"There are published anecdotal reports (the majority of which are published in the Russian language) of children gaining in speech, fine motor control, as well as movement with suit therapy, but no randomized controlled clinical trials of suit therapy have been published. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has classified the Adeli Suit and other similar devices as a class 1 limb orthosis (brace). Thus the Adeli Suit is exempt from the premarket notification procedures of the FDA and the manufacturer is not required to provide evidence of efficacy prior to marketing."


probably if a doctor orders a trial and sees functional gains. and pre-certifies then


The one thing I don't know, though is how a doctor would go about "importing" an item like this, overseas from Eurasia and charge it to insurance? The information is there, how to directly order it from them... but how would you charge that to Insurance?
I tried to locate the information... about how "medical things" could be imported... apparently as a big concern would be if it is FDA approved of course. (And a brace would be automatically).

I don't know. Even the Atlanta site was discussing counterfeits, circulating to rip off their pressure suits (in their news items), and the FDA is discussing counterfeit meds and such... but I don't know how it would be imported, and insurance cover the cost??

I hope your doctor can pull that one off. Getting insurance to pay for / order this thing all the way from Russia. :) It doesn't appear to be available at all in the United States.

On counterfeits and imported drugs (though sort of unrelated) -- how does one import medical "things". Maybe my brain is short-circuiting. Long day :
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Imported Drugs
Statement of
John M. Taylor
Associate Commissioner for Regulatory Affairs
U.S. Food and Drug Administration
http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Testimony/ucm113825.htm


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21 May 2010, 11:19 pm

well import products require an IDE IMport Device Exemption DME Durable Medical Equipment.


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