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Why must it be wrong? Because it's racist? It's racist in disfavour of white people, though...

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No, I really don't see racism as being involved at all. It doesn't seem to me like a put down of any race. Its nothing unusual when an inherited condition is correlated with a particular group or race. What's that condition, Tay-Sachs?, thats pretty much restricted to people whose ancestors were east european jews; that's got nothing to do with prejudice against jews.

I'm looking at the question of whether asperger's is just another deleterious mutation, a heritable mistake without selective value, or whether it's some form of adaptation.

I'm being unscientific, I would like to think that I'm not just defective, but I recognize that evolution is unsentimental and not concerned about my wishes, so I'm not being totally unscientific.

The racial and ethnic distribution of aspergers would provide some clues. If aspergers was uniform in frequency among all races, that would suggest that it's been around in the human population for a long time, dating back to the time before the races diverged, and that selection against it has not always been as strong as the typical aspie's love life would suggest.

It could also mean that it's a commonly occuring whack-a-mole mutation that keeps re-appearing in human populations as fast as it gets removed, or possibly that there's some kind of heterozygote advantage for people who are "half aspie."

If it's actually much more common among us white folks, that would suggest that either it appeared after the races diverged, or that some ecological factor in europe and western asia did not decrease the reproductive output of people carrying the genetic basis for the syndrome, or both. If it was restricted to europeans, excluding caucasians in the middle east and southern asia, that would provide a more specific version of the same idea.

I have no idea how you could get any meaningful data on this, unless somebody comes up with a DNA test. It might be interesting to compare aspie frequencies in northern and southern europe, where awareness of the condition might be similar.

You mentioned that you thought aspies were predominantly white people. Do you agree with Yate's topological theory, or are your ideas based on something else?

To be honest, I haven't even read his ideas yet, but I can, like you call it "unscientifically" just look at wrongplanet and see that if Asperger's would be as dominant in southern Europe, there would be more people from Spain and Italy for example. They have almost as good internet connections as we have in the Nordic countries and the awereness of the syndrom among educated people in southern Europe would also be almost as good as here. In fact, very few Swedish shrinks know much about Asperger's, except for professor Gillberg and a dozen more. Most MD:s with a psychiatric education know very little of Asperger's other than the most common traits and very often just the worst traits, i e, the stereotype AS.

That fact alone is enough to make me think, "unscientifically", that it has been developed (predominantly) among the white people in nothern Europe, in principle north of the Alps. But I don't know how or why, as little as you or anyone else for that matter...

I couldn't prove it, but I think you may be on to something.

One impression I've had, at wrong planet and other aspie sites, is that there seems to be an awful lot of people from scandinavia. Language could be a factor when looking at english language websites, but I would guess that the proportion of people who speak english in spain and italy would be roughly the same as in scandinavia.

Another thing I've noticed is that I don't remember seeing much, if anything, from aspies in israel. The jews were a originally a middle eastern people, and although some outbreeding has occurred, they have historically had a very strong cultural aversion against marrying non-jews. I'm half jew, by the way, the other half is mixed northern european. Jews are probably over-represented among mental health types in terms of their numbers, a lot of them speak english, they know how to use the internet, and their culture strongly encourages them to express their opinions.

Unless somebody is from israel, you wouldn't know whether they were a jew on the internet unless they told you, but I wonder why you don't hear from more israeli aspies.

Maybe we should start calling it "Viking Syndrome."

whoops, see down

nice alex

the frappr map has other purposes, like seeing where other aspies live i.e. do they live near me...(they dont live near me lol)

whoops that was the wrong map. that was from a different site. here is wrongplanet's map:

hyper

oops...uh...sorry.

Didn't mean to be hogging the thread with an aspie obsession.

I got interested and got all excited. That part I'm sure you'll understand.


Alex

Thanks for posting the pie chart. Interesting stuff.

Canyon Wind its ok dude. Interesting Stuff. Write what you want i like reading it.

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Flitch!! ! Can that thing go to New Zealand? Because if it can, I don't know how , and if it can't, I'm bloody pissed off!

It can

It can

Ahem, uh, how?

Once the server is up I will sort it out.