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nickdujunco
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24 Jan 2007, 2:11 am

thanks quasimodo, that's a lot of help. :D



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28 Jan 2007, 8:50 pm

Claudius,

I hope you don't mind my asking if you're of Scandinavian descent? Apart from that, reading what you've said about yourself reminds me of myself. If my score result is helpful in any way with your curiousity about being an Aspie, here it is:

Your Aspie score: 182 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 18 of 200
You are very likely an Aspie

Thanks for sharing your experience with Mensa. I almost decided to give that a try for the same reasons, but suspected the same results as what you shared so I didn't bother. Now I'm glad I didn't because I'm getting tired of being disappointed over this same social issue with such predicatibility at my age.



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30 Jan 2007, 11:58 am

I tested into Mensa but never joined. I knew that there would be meetings, and the thought of potentially being in a roomful of gregarious smart people was too daunting, so I never pursued it.



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30 Jan 2007, 2:44 pm

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My "best" friend of more than 20 years turned out to be a fake. I did not know it until I was well into my 30's, even though he had on many occasions ridiculed me in front of others and planned elaborate hoaxes which I inevitably fell for, and which he revealed to me after the fact while laughing at me. I could not differentiate between a hoax and real information, especially because he was my "best" friend. It had to be explained to my by my second wife, at which point it became clear to me.


i am very curious about this. i have some friends i go drinking with, and now i think they may do the same thing. but i have noticed things done to me are not nearly as bad as things done to others. for example, i went drinking w/ some people from jiu jitsu yesterday. they where doing hip throws on each other off his back doors landing onto piles of beer cans. one lit his own pants on fire, simply for the amusement of the rest of us. another jumped off the back of the couch to land on the stairs and fall down. i find that very strange and wonder what they where thinking. stuff they did with me was kind of different, like some1 said if you get punched in the armpit the right way, it makes u crap yourself. i knew there was no possible way this could be true, so they all put out money on the table and we made a bet. it added up to over 40 dollars, so of course i agreed, and let 2 guys punch my armpit like 20 times. they where surprised i was not even hurt, and joked about how well i can take a pounding and how it makes me money. i thought they where just weaker then they think they are, but they seem to hurt each other pretty well. they also mention my "iron lungs" when smoking marijuana because it never makes me cough, no matter how strong it is. while its happening its just sooo funny to really think about. i remember one time, we where playing ping-pong, and some1 showed me how to put a spin on the ball, so i kept trying to get it right, and the guy i was playing knew this, so he was trying to bounce the ball to where i would try to get this shot, and the paddle knock over my beer. i found it funny at the time, but now i think it just shows how well i can be manipulated into doing something.



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31 Jan 2007, 6:50 pm

faithfilly wrote:
Claudius,

I hope you don't mind my asking if you're of Scandinavian descent? Apart from that, reading what you've said about yourself reminds me of myself. If my score result is helpful in any way with your curiousity about being an Aspie, here it is:

Your Aspie score: 182 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 18 of 200
You are very likely an Aspie

Thanks for sharing your experience with Mensa. I almost decided to give that a try for the same reasons, but suspected the same results as what you shared so I didn't bother. Now I'm glad I didn't because I'm getting tired of being disappointed over this same social issue with such predicatibility at my age.


No, not a bit of Scandinavian descent. I'm really from New Orleans, and have the usual mix of just about everything.

My experience with Mensa is hard to evaluate. I think a lot of the problem is with me, I just have a hard time letting people get close, and maybe if I had really tried, I could have made friends. Most of the people I met were too involved with trying to appear intelligent, and the discussions were more like debates than friendly discussions. So maybe it would work for you.


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31 Jan 2007, 6:57 pm

matt271 wrote:
Claudius wrote:
My "best" friend of more than 20 years turned out to be a fake. I did not know it until I was well into my 30's, even though he had on many occasions ridiculed me in front of others and planned elaborate hoaxes which I inevitably fell for, and which he revealed to me after the fact while laughing at me. I could not differentiate between a hoax and real information, especially because he was my "best" friend. It had to be explained to my by my second wife, at which point it became clear to me.


i am very curious about this. i have some friends i go drinking with, and now i think they may do the same thing.


Well, after many years of this kind of thing, I have grown very reluctant to believe anything anyone says. I guess I have become a cynic. I am very happy isolating myself from such "friends." Fortunately, my wife also scored high on the Aspie quiz, so now I know why I can trust her. Good luck with your friends!


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31 Jan 2007, 7:12 pm

Greetings, fellow Nactranian.

You mentioned that you are estranged from one of your sons. Is it possible that he is on the spectrum too?



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11 Feb 2007, 8:01 pm

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Most of the people I met were too involved with trying to appear intelligent, and the discussions were more like debates than friendly discussions. So maybe it would work for you.


I know I have become a cynic because of my life experiences. I guess there would probably be a few "friendly" people, but if I misjudge and trust someone who uses their neurotypical potential to "toy" with me, then my level of skepticism could possibly escalate into nightmare proportions.

I have had my fill of being around people pretending to be friendly while covertly competing to stroke their egos in the hope of appearing intelligent. Here is my conclusion about Mensa: It's another "society" and, from the patterns I've noticed about exclusive clubs, they tend to be comprised of competitive people. I've also noticed that the nicest people seem to have no interest in doing anything other than just simply being themselves.


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11 Feb 2007, 8:39 pm

That was enjoyable to read!

Yeah, it's alright, you're always welcome on Wrong Planet! If not from anyone else, at least from me! My dad is a health professional he knows exactly how you feel, although he is more right-brained. He wanted to be an artist, but you know you can't raise a family that way, so he used his potential to become a physician, which he hates. The insurance thing is problem in medicine, also medicare and how they incorporate law in health, it's stupid!

Well, thanks for posting that, I enjoyed reading it!


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13 Feb 2007, 1:29 pm

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Thanks for all the welcomes.

One thing I have noticed about the diagnostic criteria, in fact, it seemed to be the "essential" criteria was obsession with a single topic to the "exclusion" of all other topics. I have lots of topics I am interested in. My pattern is that I get obsessed with a subject for a time, at least several years, during which I am actively pursuing something about the topic that I am interested in. This is to the exclusion of all else. Then for some reason, I drop it (without losing interest in it) and go on to another topic which I pursue relentlessly (and enthusiastically.) I have done this so many times that I have become very knowledgeable about lots of different topics. I think the diagnostic criteria should mention this, that someone who has this syndrome can move from one topic to another, and that over time a lot of things get explored.

That is my opinion. Do others here share this? Or do your obsessions remain the same for a lifetime, as the diagnostic criteria suggests?

Here's what I think. I have noticed that I think I want to have friends. I have noticed that I occasionally will meet someone who is friendly, or who I think might be a good friend. We even get together occasionally to do things. Pretty soon it becomes apparent that even though it seemed like a good idea, I am not that interested in the other person, or I don't want to deepen the friendship. I want to keep my privacy and my space to myself. I don't want someone intruding into my life, which is well-ordered, and messing it up. So for one reason or another, I usually prefer to have quiet time at home with my significant other than going out to be with friends.


I re-read the posts in this thread and now realize I only responded to one part. The way you describe your obsessions sounds exactly like the complaints I receive. Many other things you mention are similar too and, whatever isn't alike, (in high probably) is because of different circumstances in upbringing.

I'll go for a long time just fine without friends or trying to develop friendships. After time passes, I forget how odd I am and then think I'd like to have a friend too. It doesn't take long for me to be reminded of the reason why I stay away from people. Even though I'm new to WrongPlanet.net, I think this method of "connecting" with others via posts and articles will be a good thing provided that I use the chat room with caution. I've noticed that being in there isn't so safe either (emotionally) and it also can be too exhausting for me to be understood, believed, and/or for me to trust others.


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