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14 Dec 2007, 11:36 am

Just for the record: I am NOT a parakeet, I AM A HUMAN. (No matter what my sister says.)



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14 Dec 2007, 11:37 am

I guessed. :lol:


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14 Dec 2007, 1:26 pm

I was actually waiting for comments like Anubis made. Also take into account that he is 17, and that the vast majority of people in the world (especially at that age) have a very limited understanding of the possibilities of such an expansive thing as "reality".

Anything that falls into the realm of the spiritual that someone actually believes would lend itself to be some kind of insanity - acceptance is a matter of numbers. Hell, how many of you out there know people who believe that AS should be referred to as BS, and that you are just arrogant, selfish brats who were picked on too much in school and think you're better than everyone because you're intelligent?

Am I physically a descendant of Fae? Probably not, but then there is no "scientific" evidence that I'm a descendant of apes or made out of clay, either. There is only the strong spiritual connection and behaviors/physical traits that match, though that is definitely subjective. This is not new, however, the Native Americans were often paired with totem animals of kindred spirit.

Possible? In the fullness of God, all things are possible. The most scientific explanation of god, in my eyes, is that of the Mayans. 1500 years ago, they predicted that at the center of the galaxy was Hunab Ku - a whirling mass at the center of the galaxy with a black hole at its own center. Today this has been verified as a supermassive black hole that is responsible for the creation and destruction of stars, as well as for emmiting energy bursts that are aimed with seeming intelligence.

At the very center of this black hole is a singularity - a place where mass becomes infinite and timespace as we know it breaks down. With infinite time you have infinite energy because the two are interchangeable. Infinite mass/energy + infinite time/space = probability of all things at 100%.

Thus, to state that any certain thing is not possible shows ignorance.

However, in our current state, humans base their ideas on their greatly inadequate perception. More accurate would be basing ideas on a tiny bit of real perception and a great amount of what they have been told by others to believe.

Being on an AS forum, you're automatically starting on the assumption that slight changes in the way that we perceive things greatly changes the overall perception of the makeup of reality - and that what we experience is held to be in contrast/conflict to what the majority has decided is the "correct" paradigm.

The top of my screen isn't showing... Let me scroll up... Oh, yes, this site is indeed called WrongPlanet.net.

Did I mention that my big AS obsession is the nature of reality?


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14 Dec 2007, 1:43 pm

Oh look ForeSam for Therians.

ForeSam: You are sick brain damamge, with no intelligence, that needs to be cured. You believe in a delusion

Anubis:

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Sorry, but you creating the thread does not mean any such authority unless you specified at the start. Supporting and endorsing such things feeds the psychoses of "Otherkin". It's just like supporting Anorexia. (See Pro-Ana sites to see what I mean)

The only way to deal with such is by treatment, I'm afraid. I don't think it is all fake, I know it's all a fake delusion. It's not a flaming opinion, it's a FACT. I pity people who believe such is reality.


I see no differance between the two.

Lets gets s**t straighen out Shall we?

First. Stop speaking out your ass. And continuely slitting your neck with your Ocam's razor. Seriously STFU. Calling Therianthopy, and Otherkins deluded is unfounded and ridcilous, many because you don't know what the HELL your talking about. If you look at the goddamn links I sent you and read them you might just have the tiiiiniest inkling of what your talking about. You don't accually, infact you sound like a jaded Nihlist thats been f****d in the ass by religion and are taking it out on the n00bs. Seriously Grow the hell up Anubis

Yes I am human, but I believe that I have the lifeforce of an Arctic wolf. I walk on two legs, I talk, but I've always felt that I wasn't completly human. Now. First off, Therianthopy/Otherkin is a spiritual aspect. It does not effect us in our lifestyles. I know several therians who can hold jobs, have kids and they live a normal life. They are not hurting socity and they are relitively normal and happy with who they are.

You can say all you want about us being deluded, but it does not make it fact and thats whats pissing me off. You say it's fact and it isn't You can prove to me or Dracon that we are "deluded". We are not hurting anyone, our beliefs are our beliefs. We are happy being a therian or otherkin. My fiancee is happy being who he is.

Who said it was ok for you to degrade and throw us down like a bigot? Seriously who said it was fair for you to waltz in and throw us down? Nobody asked for your opinion of us, or your hate-talk. Have something constructive to say? Then say it. STFU with this BS you vomit up. It's makes you look like bigot.

If you think you're so right and that I'm a immature little shit-bag

Grow some balls and say what you told Dracon to these guys

www.werenation.com
www.therianthropy.org
www.werelist.com

I'm sure everyone would appreciate their spirituality being compared to anorexia. <<

I'm sorry I joined knowing their such malinformed and ignorant pricks out here.

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14 Dec 2007, 1:59 pm

The same old pseudo-intellectual BS.

Anything is possible if you take the "infinite universes, infinite possibilities", but at the same time there are things that are just damn near impossible and crazy.

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Possible? In the fullness of God, all things are possible. The most scientific explanation of god, in my eyes, is that of the Mayans. 1500 years ago, they predicted that at the center of the galaxy was Hunab Ku - a whirling mass at the center of the galaxy with a black hole at its own center. Today this has been verified as a supermassive black hole that is responsible for the creation and destruction of stars, as well as for emmiting energy bursts that are aimed with seeming intelligence.

At the very center of this black hole is a singularity - a place where mass becomes infinite and timespace as we know it breaks down. With infinite time you have infinite energy because the two are interchangeable. Infinite mass/energy + infinite time/space = probability of all things at 100%.


Until I see any evidence that your delusions are reality, then I shall pity you all I like.

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I'm sorry I joined knowing their such malinformed and ignorant pricks out here.


I'm sorry that you can't use the correct grammar or justify your beliefs, and cry persecution whenever someone tells you reality as it is. I am not ignorant or misinformed, no. I know full well how infinite the universe is, but I also know what is likely and what is highly unlikely and mythical in nature.

Oh, thanks for the links, I'll be sure to visit and laugh my arse off.


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14 Dec 2007, 2:24 pm

He's seventeen?

That explains the hell alot.

He really is a jaded child <<



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14 Dec 2007, 2:29 pm

Anubis wrote:

I'm sorry that you can't use the correct grammar or justify your beliefs, and cry persecution whenever someone tells you reality as it is. I am not ignorant or misinformed, no. I know full well how infinite the universe is, but I also know what is likely and what is highly unlikely and mythical in nature.

Oh, thanks for the links, I'll be sure to visit and laugh my arse off.




No you are ignorant, Incredibly so.

You speak out of you ass. You're still a child you act like one. Until you are will to seek knowledge and gain wisdom. You will be a bane to me.



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14 Dec 2007, 3:00 pm

BardWolf wrote:
Anubis wrote:

I'm sorry that you can't use the correct grammar or justify your beliefs, and cry persecution whenever someone tells you reality as it is. I am not ignorant or misinformed, no. I know full well how infinite the universe is, but I also know what is likely and what is highly unlikely and mythical in nature.

Oh, thanks for the links, I'll be sure to visit and laugh my arse off.




No you are ignorant, Incredibly so.

You speak out of you ass. You're still a child you act like one. Until you are will to seek knowledge and gain wisdom. You will be a bane to me.


If I was ignorant, I wouldn't have such a wide knowledge base and be interested in all sorts of things. Attacking a lifestyle which I believe is deluded and very unhealthy is no sign of ignorance.

I speak the truth, and nothing but the truth.


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14 Dec 2007, 3:01 pm

Um... What you quoted, Anubis, is based on current scientific theories.


Damn near impossible is still possible. Like traveling west and ending up at the same spot coming from the east without falling off the world. Or like you finding one of those 16-18 year old girls to go out with you. :lmao:


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14 Dec 2007, 3:16 pm

Of course that is based on scientific theories, what made you think that I believed otherwise? I was commenting on you using it to justify your beliefs. Anything is possible, but your beliefs are so damn near impossible and EXTREMELY unlikely and unfounded that I can make a judgement that they are delusions until proven otherwise. There's varying degrees of possibility. Some things are damn near absolutely certain, so near certain that you can just say "certain". Other things are so damn near absolutely impossible/unfounded that one can just say "impossible".

A new scientific theory or idea, I'm open to it, if there's enough theoretical proof based on current knowledge. That you are some sort of mythical creature? What evidence is there for it? ZILCH, except imagination. That's all it is, imagination without the neccessary physical proof.

As for God, well, I think that such a possibility is much more likely due to its nature, various pieces of evidence and the extent of belief in a "God" in some form. Certainly much more likely and far more founded than any "Otherkin" fairytale.


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14 Dec 2007, 3:43 pm

Gah.

Look, can we keep this thread nice? how about we talk about otherkin and ignore anubis. he's a judgemental arrogant jerk, and I don't think we should respond anymore. He lives to find threads like this so he can make you guys feel bad. Please don't pay him any mind.



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14 Dec 2007, 3:46 pm

anyway, how did you guys discover you were otherkin?



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14 Dec 2007, 3:49 pm

Anubis wrote:
As for God, well, I think that such a possibility is much more likely due to its nature, various pieces of evidence and the extent of belief in a "God" in some form. Certainly much more likely and far more founded than any "Otherkin" fairytale.


You are proving one of my points. There is NO scientific evidence pointing to the existence of a God, but you are swayed by the extent of the belief. Some Hindus believe in washing up with and drinking cow piss for varied reasons. There is slight scientific evidence to show that you can get vitamins/minerals/etc. that are beneficial to the human body. If it was bottled and became the new health fad, would you take that as enough evidence to start a-chuggin'?

I guess the real point is that we are all ignorant, else we would be omniscient. Even the modern god known as Science is unable to actually prove anything. Look at yourself. The combination of factors that have made you what you are is an event that is virtually impossible. Among all of the people, planets, stars, energies, space dust, etc., you come out as unique. But then, that too can be questioned.

The energies and materials that compose you could have come from any amount of sources: rocks, horses, corn husks, a lock of hair from a member of an ancient race from millions of light years away destroyed by supernova, a solar flare from a distant star, etc. Some of these particles/energies may retain some memory of where they have been.

Or not. But you can't argue against a perception. I mean, I don't even know if you're a real person or if I'm making this whole thing up, and by my own arguments I cannot deny your perception.

Now I'm rambling. I would like to see this thread get a bit more back on the subject, though. Even if it just gives you something to laugh at, that is still valid.


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14 Dec 2007, 3:50 pm

ShadesOfMe wrote:
anyway, how did you guys discover you were otherkin?



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14 Dec 2007, 4:17 pm

I guess that I have always felt different (AS probably) and oddly connected to Fae as presented in films like Dark Chrystal, Labyrinth, etc., but it was when I was 16 that I really started to question the reality that was laid out to me. I started reading about Wicca and other religious paradigms. I was also feeling like I had "something" following me that was not positive - I would literally feel it clutching to my back.

After high school, I was still obsessed with the new age/occult. Also got heavily into alcohol (to allow myself to socialize) and LSD, which gave me new perceptions. Still did not feel entirely human, but did not link to Fae.

About 19, I started using something called DXM, which is a disassociative that allows increased sensitivity to electromagnetic energy. With my magical knowledge I was able to remove the "demon" and was opened up to new possibilities. My world took a magical twist, and I began to increasingly come across events and people who would classify as magical, many of them talking to me about my fae background.

I decided to pursue this through magical means, eventually leading to visions of past lives as fae and a stronger connection to the fae as a whole.

Giving fuel to Anubis, this drugs/new age beliefs were a factor in this, and the lines between delusions and reality are very blurred. This is not a belief that I live my day-to-day life by in a winged outfit, but rather a personal mythology that I use for self-realization. It is the way I internally express my relationship to the divine force.

Am I Fae? Technically no. Do I FEEL Fae? Yes, and that is good enough for me.


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14 Dec 2007, 4:39 pm

it's good to see that some people are actually getting back to the main topic of this thread.


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