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28 Sep 2007, 10:27 pm

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What is Willowbrook, Richie?


Willowbrook is not a good place, CC.



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28 Sep 2007, 11:47 pm

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I smile and we talk a bit. The doc asks me how things are going and I tell him everything is going well with the Focalin. I tried a trial run of the Daytrana patches for him and reported back that I did not like those - the adhesive made me itch. (I don't like itchy clothes or clothes tags - they irritate me and so did the patches).


Yeah, I have to do paper tape. Clothes, see the following, me too.

“I base most of my fashion taste on what doesn't itch.”
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29 Sep 2007, 12:46 am

Hi, guys! Long time, no see...

Hey, Chuck, I agree with what you and everyone has said about your shrink. Why does this guy want to fix what ain't broke?

Besides, he's forgetting you still have the decision in this situation.

Yeah, like Postie wrote-s***can him.

And like many others here, I am sensitive to meds or they don't work at all. Or they are nothing but ick. Percocet does nothing for me, but naproxen works great for my arthritis. I don't even get a buzz off of it.

I say I'm lucky to have the medical team I have now, but it took me twenty years to put it together. Good luck on finding a shrink who'll work for you, and that you don't need a lot of it.

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29 Sep 2007, 12:57 am

Hi, Rjaye! Good to see you again. I have just gone off my brand new medicine, Tramadol. It really caused the most horrendous itching, took forever to kick in, and then worsened my insomnia. When the auditory and visual hallucinations began, I said ENOUGH! Can't wait to see what torture device they'll assign next. Chronic pain is not fun, nor is chronic inflammation. I wish they could reduce the pain without all the side effects. :?


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29 Sep 2007, 1:22 am

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...Chuck, I think that a lot of these shrinks are in agreement with pharmaceutical firms to push the latest drug off on there current patient, while evilly chuckling, "We'll make em' fit!" Notice how, since you raised the issue of your Asperger's, he was suddenly willing to cut that off, so that he could give you the new drug? I have had that time and time again, where I say that I am doing fine, and that the medicine is working well, only to have them change the dosage or the prescription. Run while you can! I wonder how they can sleep nights. Their's is a separate agenda, and we are of no importance, except as a pill swallower.


Yep Hartz, I sure did. I think what I am going to do is just never visit that profession again. I didn't like taking the medication anyway. It was nice to be able to hear. But I like it better when I can block out sound and think the way I can when I'm not on the meds. I made it 47 years without them. Now that I am aware that I wasn't paying enough attention auditorily, maybe I can practice doing that without meds, and learn to reorient my brain to a more auditory mode when I am in public. That would be better in the long run anyway.

Now that I know what to try to achieve auditorily, it should be easier! I didn't even know that world existed beforehand.

I'm stubborn. I'll do it, or die trying. :lol:

And I know I'm Aspie. At least, if such a thing actually exists, and if it exists as Tony Atwood describes it in his latest book. He sure did a good job of describing me having never met me. I'm satisfied anyway. Don't need the official stamp.



i am sorry you too are surrounded by idiots with the power to write prescriptions. it's just... it seems so statistically UNLIKELY that ALL of them are inept sub-humans, doesn't it? like, there must be a good and intelligent doctor SOMEWHERE, but i have never met one and i have already given up on the quest.


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29 Sep 2007, 4:01 am

Good ta see ya Rjaye!!


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29 Sep 2007, 6:14 am

I appreciate your opinions. I believe I will abandon the med route and go it alone. I have devised a plan:
1. I will listen to a radio turned to people having a simultaneous conversation until I can follow what they are saying well.
2. I will introduce a second radio tuned to a different simultaneous conversation, and play both at the same time, and practice until I can follow what is being said in both.
3. I will then type on the computer at the same time. This should simulate my work situation - at least closely.
4. Adding background music, equipment noise, and telephone ringing will bring the practice very close to reality.

May take a while, but it certainly beats taking meds. I appreciate the input. :D

(aside: Nan?! Kill the Wabbit???! !! 8O )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyxPxpSvXQ8

Welcome i_AM_andaJoy!
Welcome back Rjaye! good to see you again! :D

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29 Sep 2007, 6:24 am

It's easier then setting up all that, just play World of Warcraft. If there aren't two or more conversations going on, even between two people, something ain't right. You have normal chit chat and you have those damn wabbits trying waste your ass and you got to have the combat talk going at the same time. Get more then one in the same talk channel and it gets really fun. Then you can do it real time with voice, actually it's easier then trying to type. If I type anything close to grammatically correct, somebody going to die, because I didn't get the warning out. Death? Hell no, I'm a gamer, I have uncountable lives. Kill da wabbit, kill da wabbit!!

Oh and you get to do trade crafts, pick engineer and later you get to specialize, pick Goblin Engineering. They get to make things that go boom. Cept, you're never really sure who is going to go boom, the wabbits or you. It's an imperfect science, but I work at it. :twisted: I am kind of fond of Gnome Engineering too. I like the Shrink Ray and I'm kind of fond of the Net-o-matic, even when they back fire it makes me laugh pretty hard.


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29 Sep 2007, 6:43 am

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...And Chuck, try a psychologist. They can't prescribe meds, so they may actually listen to you! If its just counseling you want. If you really need meds, at least find a better psychiatrist than that two-faced pill monger you've been seeing.


I think all I really was after was a confirmation. Last year when I read about ADD and found myself in the pages, and then Asperger's and found myself in those pages, I just wanted to see if I really was a living embodiment of those labels. They put me through the tests and questionnaires and examinations and determined that I am. That's all I wanted to know. It explained a lot. It was a relief.

They cannot change me, nor would I desire to be changed. The meds helped me realize my central auditory processing problem, so I can now address that myself.

I have no more need of them. I will find my own way, as I always have. I get a lot out of listening to and interacting with you guys. It's good to have friends who have walked the walk.

I may undergo an occasional counseling check-up as per your recommendation Hartz. In case, as Cosmiccat says - things may be going on that others can see that I cannot. Thanks!



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29 Sep 2007, 6:49 am

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It's easier then setting up all that, just play World of Warcraft. If there aren't two or more conversations going on, even between two people, something ain't right. You have normal chit chat and you have those damn wabbits trying waste your ass and you got to have the combat talk going at the same time. Get more then one in the same talk channel and it gets really fun. Then you can do it real time with voice, actually it's easier then trying to type. If I type anything close to grammatically correct, somebody going to die, because I didn't get the warning out. Death? Hell no, I'm a gamer, I have uncountable lives. Kill da wabbit, kill da wabbit!!

Oh and you get to do trade crafts, pick engineer and later you get to specialize, pick Goblin Engineering. They get to make things that go boom. Cept, you're never really sure who is going to go boom, the wabbits or you. It's an imperfect science, but I work at it. :twisted: I am kind of fond of Gnome Engineering too. I like the Shrink Ray and I'm kind of fond of the Net-o-matic, even when they back fire it makes me laugh pretty hard.


If I can play this game while at the same time listening to my sister telling me who was who and begotten by who and what they did and who they married and where they lived in our family tree, and get it all straight, I will know that I am the Zen master of Auditory Processing. I will be The One. :lol:



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29 Sep 2007, 7:07 am

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... and where they lived in our family tree...

Do I correctly deduce that one of your ancestors was a certain Lord Greystoke?


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29 Sep 2007, 7:10 am

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I may undergo an occasional counseling check-up as per your recommendation Hartz. In case, as Cosmiccat says - things may be going on that others can see that I cannot. Thanks!


"if i were blind, i would know what you are."--schemendrick the magician

(everytime i would watch that movie when i was little, i would wish to be blind so i could see cool stuff like magic too, but then someone burst the bubble and pointed out the STUPID way i kept seeing the meaning, because i got it WRONG. but i am fixed back wrong now. and mostly it is good.)


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29 Sep 2007, 7:50 am

lau wrote:
Chuck wrote:
... and where they lived in our family tree...

Do I correctly deduce that one of your ancestors was a certain Lord Greystoke?


Naaa. There are lots of Swiss Zimmermanns, Schneiders, Schmids, amd Mullers. I'm from the Swiss family Robinson.



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29 Sep 2007, 9:02 am

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He wanted me to go to Berkley back in January to do further tests on my visual memory, and I didn't want to go. Maybe I ought to go, and see if there is someone there qualified to diagnose Asperger's.

There is an Autism support group in Nashville that meets once a month. Maybe they can refer me to a physician that they trust. I've got more questions than answers at this point.

I sure do fit the description. ADD explained a lot of my behavior. Asperger's explained most of it. Dysthmia just doesn't seem to fit at all. Do I seem depressed or in ill humor to you guys? In spite of everything I've been through in my life, I'm sort of like the guy on the cross in Monty Python's movie Life of Brian.

"....Always look on the bright side of life...(whistles)...." :lol:
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I don't think you should doubt yourself Chuck, from your description, it is very clear that the doctor wanted to push the medication (maybe he got advatages for pushing certain meds, it does happen a lot, or maybe he is just very stubborn)
Also the fact that he didn't add anything, had no explanation for anything, is a clear sign that it had actually nothing to do with you.
That's the reason why I stopped seeing psy's, therapists or other cause I always had these kind of people. If you look around you must notice that there are a lot of people having a job for which they are not suited, but how many people ask this question : Am I good in what i'm doing?, and 'How can I improve myself?'
Maybe the fact that aspies are so analysing and perhaps often too much, makes us 'malfunctioning' because we stop doing things if they are all wrong. But to keep on going when things are wrong and pretend nothing happened is surely not a good alternative.

I was just thinking of going to have a diagnosis too, actually the time of seeing therapists is more than 15 years ago, a time Asperger's wasn't known here. I feel I need guidance sometimes. I've never wanted to because I don't like the idea of someone having a written report on me, but maybe it's worth it anyway?

This summer I met a boy who was a copy of me when I was young, wandering, quit school and no idea what could have been wrong. I suggested he might have AS and he went for a test, which happens to come out possitive. The boy (18) told me the people in the autism organisation who did the tests are very competent. I'm thinking of going too.


Amanda, I suggest oranges :D
*lemon contemplates the knife in A's hand*



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29 Sep 2007, 9:16 am

oranges?

well you are the lemon. and that picture of a run over world is maybe the orange already, because i have heard the world be compared to an orange before. but she has mashed it nicely, so the orange is already taken care of.

so... if i must be a citrus fruit... i choose the key-lime. i almost went with kumquat, but their juice is bitter, but even so, they are spectaular little projectiles. i miss them. but they kind of hurt if you throw them at people... so mostly i would just play with them or tell the stuff, because they were so small and orange and nice and would fit snug in my hand, and they loved to play with the key-limes from the tree in my yard. and so the key limes are probably my favorite... but don't worry, it is not a sharp key or a knife at all, because i am not bleeding, just your picture is.


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29 Sep 2007, 11:59 am

test. You didn't study SwampBlossom?


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