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sinsboldly
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29 Sep 2007, 2:01 pm
Chuck wrote:
hartzofspace wrote:
...Chuck, I think that a lot of these shrinks are in agreement with pharmaceutical firms to push the latest drug off on there current patient, while evilly chuckling, "We'll make em' fit!" Notice how, since you raised the issue of your Asperger's, he was suddenly willing to cut that off, so that he could give you the new drug? I have had that time and time again, where I say that I am doing fine, and that the medicine is working well, only to have them change the dosage or the prescription. Run while you can! I wonder how they can sleep nights. Their's is a separate agenda, and we are of no importance, except as a pill swallower.
Yep Hartz, I sure did. I think what I am going to do is just never visit that profession again. I didn't like taking the medication anyway. It was nice to be able to hear. But I like it better when I can block out sound and think the way I can when I'm not on the meds. I made it 47 years without them. Now that I am aware that I wasn't paying enough attention auditorily, maybe I can practice doing that without meds, and learn to reorient my brain to a more auditory mode when I am in public. That would be better in the long run anyway.
Now that I know what to try to achieve auditorily, it should be easier! I didn't even know that world existed beforehand.
I'm stubborn. I'll do it, or die trying.
And I know I'm Aspie. At least, if such a thing actually exists, and if it exists as Tony Atwood describes it in his latest book. He sure did a good job of describing me having never met me. I'm satisfied anyway. Don't need the official stamp.
me neither, Chuck.
A crisis center once put me on Celexa, just a fist full of samples and I found out that after the 6 weeks on them I was not to go off of them with out a doctor's help. I never had a doctor's help to GET on them. . .and I told them I was often suicidal, showed them the big scar, etc. They nodded understandingly (it was 2003) and didn't make too much of it. After years of scraping up money to pay for the medication, buying them by the week because that was all I could afford, staring into blackness screaming Jimmy Cliff's "Many River's to Cross"
[youtube]http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW5TH2WoYc0[/youtube]
I finally sought shelter in my friend's garden shack and slept on a shelf for the 18 months it took to get back my self as I quit Celexa cold turkey. I learned my lesson. I thank the powers that be that I have enough cognizance to exist as I do with out the need for much more than Naproxen and Levothyroxin with a half of carisoprodol when the back gets dancing by its self.
by the way, never trust anyone that sucks on his glasses. They tried to get Bob Dylan to do that when he first got famous and he haded his glasses to the reporter and told him to suck on them. Hilarious!
your gurl,
Merle
PS Welcome Amanda Joy!! I am Merle and obviously being 'Merle'
29 Sep 2007, 2:06 pm
Nan wrote:
...Walmart has, sometimes, t-shirts made out of rayon made out of bamboo. They print the label on it instead of sewing one on. They were like $5 the last time I saw them. And they are the MOST comfortable clothes I've ever worn. Very good "skin feel" to them.
I asked my psychiatrist if he would write me a "no necktie" excuse. A buttoned collar really irritates my neck.
He told me no dice. As a pharmacist, I'm supposed to look professional.
Believe me - I look anything BUT professional. Scrubs are not allowed at the retail pharmacy, only at the hospital. So I wash my clothes a gazillion times until they are nice and soft. They are rumpled beyond recognition. (RBR). Pants, shirts - they look the same. You could use them interchangeably. Ironing is pointless.
I may as well be wearing flannel pajamas. I unbutton my collar, and hang the untied tie over my shoulders. I'm a hunt and peck typist, can't hear a word you are saying when I'm concentrating, and you can't understand a word I say. Oh yeah. I'm James Bond professional. 
(Bet I'd look like an Ubergeek on a webcam too.
)
29 Sep 2007, 2:10 pm
WOW!! I shanghaied(?) my mom's computer at her house for half an hour and now I'm sitting here all misty eyed once again! I don't know what to say!! 
Hi, Swampblossom!! Good to meet the woman who keeps Postie in line! 
Rathermousie, Welcome!
I am doing just fine. Just waiting for things to settle a little. Don't want to get into it on here because he will read it. My friend says I can use a spare laptop that she has, so I may take her up on the offer. I'm usually too freakin' stubborn to accept help but apparently all my friends really do live in a computer! My friend has seen first hand what happens when someone takes me to a bar full of people and strange (and I do mean STRANGE) men.
Nan! HI!! I'm glad you're feeling better and ten pounds lighter is never a bad thing. 
Hey, Chuck, Listen to everyone. They all know what they are talking about! I am lucky that my family doctor listens to me and gives me a whole lot of say in my own treatment. I saw him yesterday afternoon to get an anti-depressant to help while I deal with this. I told him what has worked best and the dose that I wanted and he gave me the prescription and said, "You know where to call me at if you need to." I've also had him for 20 years so he knows me well.
Well, I've got other things to do on the computer, so until next time........
Take care of each other and I love you all!! !
Lauri
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29 Sep 2007, 2:10 pm
Nan wrote:
sinsboldly wrote:
richie wrote:
Richie, this touched me as few things do. we are so fortunate to be not there, even if we were there at one time. I sincerely hope you weren't. Oh, I hope, I hope, I hope you weren't there. . .
Merle
Ditto. My uncle died in Greystone in NJ. I'd have ended up there, I think, if things had gone as they probably would have. One wonders why/when, in dark moments, they'll bring along the cattle cars for us. Only one suitcase, please....
Vigilance is the price of our freedom.
This puzzle piece could very well become our Yellow Star of David.
sinsboldly
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29 Sep 2007, 2:13 pm
rathermousie wrote:
*times the jump rope... back and forth, back, forth...and jump in!*
It is bad enough that it goes that far but unfortunatly it dosen't stop there. I work in retail pharmacy and therefor have to deal with insurance companies for a large portion of my day. The doctors arn't the only ones making deals with the pharmacutical companies. After you get the script and take it into the pharmacy you are very likely to find out that your insurance does not prefer that drug and will either not cover it at all or pay so little that you can't affort it anyway.
If they won't pay they hide it as a "Prior Authorization". This means that the pharmacy has to put together a form with a phone number for the doctor to call. This is faxed to the doctor who has to take time out of his day of seeing patients and driving his fancy car to lunch to call the insurance company and awnser questions. These questions try to convince him to change your medication to something they prefer while he explains that he has a degree in this field and feels that you neally need to take what he prescribed. Ofcourse he may be working in your best intrest or further his connection with a different drug manufacturer.... or he may not call at all!
On top of that it is still up the insurance company and they may not approve the doctors request if they so choose. Ofcourse I've seen them get an approval for a medication and them the next month when the dose is changed to twice a day the insurance company says, "Plan limitations exceeded. Only 30 capsules allowed per 30 days." Ahrg!
Lets recap:
You want to feel better.
The doctor wants to make more money and maybe make you feel better as a side-effect of that.
The insurance company wants to keep as much money as possible.
I know this comes across as pesimestic but it is meant to be informative of the factors that are in play.
In the end your best and maybe only advocate is yourself.
(okay, I'll try and stop ranting now.
)
Gromit wrote:
I think you put your finger on it right there. It doesn't need a conspiracy theory. Psychological research shows that people who accept favours feel obliged to reciprocate, even if they imagine they don't. The pharmaclological industry spends huge amounts of money doing favours to doctors, because they know it works.
It is bad enough that it goes that far but unfortunatly it dosen't stop there. I work in retail pharmacy and therefor have to deal with insurance companies for a large portion of my day. The doctors arn't the only ones making deals with the pharmacutical companies. After you get the script and take it into the pharmacy you are very likely to find out that your insurance does not prefer that drug and will either not cover it at all or pay so little that you can't affort it anyway.
If they won't pay they hide it as a "Prior Authorization". This means that the pharmacy has to put together a form with a phone number for the doctor to call. This is faxed to the doctor who has to take time out of his day of seeing patients and driving his fancy car to lunch to call the insurance company and awnser questions. These questions try to convince him to change your medication to something they prefer while he explains that he has a degree in this field and feels that you neally need to take what he prescribed. Ofcourse he may be working in your best intrest or further his connection with a different drug manufacturer.... or he may not call at all!
On top of that it is still up the insurance company and they may not approve the doctors request if they so choose. Ofcourse I've seen them get an approval for a medication and them the next month when the dose is changed to twice a day the insurance company says, "Plan limitations exceeded. Only 30 capsules allowed per 30 days." Ahrg!
Lets recap:
You want to feel better.
The doctor wants to make more money and maybe make you feel better as a side-effect of that.
The insurance company wants to keep as much money as possible.
I know this comes across as pesimestic but it is meant to be informative of the factors that are in play.
In the end your best and maybe only advocate is yourself.
(okay, I'll try and stop ranting now.
)I am fortunate because I work for a not for profit Health Insurance company in the Pacific Northwest. All the 'profits' go back into education for our members ( I am a member too, we are all members, with no 'outsourced' workers) on how to live and eat and be healthy. Our 'pre-authorization' consistes of grilling OUR OWN CONTRACTED doctors if they have tried the generic drugs first and notes on how that worked out, FIRST. If we can get our members on generics, so much the better.
I have no doubt that FOR PROFIT health insurance companies out there rip their customers from hell to breakfast, but I am so fortunate that mine does not.
Merle
29 Sep 2007, 2:14 pm
Chuck wrote:
Welcome to SwampBlossum and rathermousie!
Thanks
29 Sep 2007, 2:28 pm
blessedmom wrote:
WOW!! I shanghaied(?) my mom's computer at her house for half an hour and now I'm sitting here all misty eyed once again! I don't know what to say!!
Hi Lauri! No tears (I only have malfunctioning water pistols). Just smiles!
Good to see you! Stay away from strange men in and behind bars. Bears too. And mountain lions. (out of bars). Hope things will be better soon! Hang in there!
29 Sep 2007, 2:36 pm
rathermousie wrote:
Chuck wrote:
Welcome ... rathermousie!
Thanks
Would you be another pharmacist then? Ahhh. Heard the rant, even with my ears. Distinct, like the bellow of a bull moose in a bear-trap. The anguished rant of a wild pharmacist. My condolences.
29 Sep 2007, 2:48 pm
Swampblossom & Rathermousie:
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29 Sep 2007, 2:48 pm
sinsboldly wrote:
I am fortunate because I work for a not for profit Health Insurance company in the Pacific Northwest. All the 'profits' go back into education for our members ( I am a member too, we are all members, with no 'outsourced' workers) on how to live and eat and be healthy. Our 'pre-authorization' consistes of grilling OUR OWN CONTRACTED doctors if they have tried the generic drugs first and notes on how that worked out, FIRST. If we can get our members on generics, so much the better.
I have no doubt that FOR PROFIT health insurance companies out there rip their customers from hell to breakfast, but I am so fortunate that mine does not.
Merle
I have no doubt that FOR PROFIT health insurance companies out there rip their customers from hell to breakfast, but I am so fortunate that mine does not.
Merle
Wow, that must be a nice change. Almost makes me wish I was in the northwest instead of the southeast. Though there must be more of those hiding, right? I thought maybe my co-pays might get a bit better when the company I work for bought the insurance company we use but then I remembered that they are cutting our meagar hours anyways so that should have been a sign.
Unfortunatly its not just the brand/generic debate that is causing problems. They also have specific medications that they cover in a category. So they might be prescribed one generic but the insurance wants the generic of the 'other' medication that treats that condition. This is why when my insurance sent me a list of the main drugs they do or do not cover I immediatly put it in my wallet so that I would at least have a heads up.
\
I will try and remember now to specify that I am talking about FOR PROFIT health insurance companies. I do like to be specific. Congrats on what sounds like a great thing.
29 Sep 2007, 3:04 pm
Chuck wrote:
rathermousie wrote:
Chuck wrote:
Welcome ... rathermousie!
Thanks
Would you be another pharmacist then? Ahhh. Heard the rant, even with my ears. Distinct, like the bellow of a bull moose in a bear-trap. The anguished rant of a wild pharmacist. My condolences.
Unfortunatly I am not in that pay grade. I am just a pharmacy technician. If it helps though I am the only pharmacy technician at my store so M-F I am the pharmacy swiss army knife. (inventory, insurance resolutions, clarifications with the doctor, requests for additional refills, drop-off, production, pick-up, awnsering the phone, helping to find items in the store, etc) At any given time we only have 3 people at the most: the pharmacist, myself and a PSA (pharmacy service associate) or cashier. We each have a primary and secondary station but we basically end up do a little bit of everything except for verification and consultation which are solely for the pharmacist.
Quick question... how come all my mispelled words were being underlined yesterday and they arn't today?
sinsboldly
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29 Sep 2007, 3:06 pm
Nan wrote:
sinsboldly wrote:
hum...
now that I think of it, EVERYone looks like a geek on a webcam
now, let's see a show of hands. ... who is content with their image on a web cam??
Merle
now that I think of it, EVERYone looks like a geek on a webcam
now, let's see a show of hands. ... who is content with their image on a web cam??
Merle
uh, me?
transported back to black and white TV cartoons where my uncle told me of a life unknown, wondering why Minne the Moocher would be something shown on morning TV back before network feeds were given to rural tv stations and they had to make do by playing actual film they got from the Orepheum Theater down a block off Broadway and Douglas back from the 20's and 30' and 40's. We watched them until the "Sputnik" times came on where instead of cartoons we watched a picture of a NASA control room and the 'beep, beep, beep' of the little basket ball sized first man made satalite in 'outer space'. Then an afternoon kiddy show came on daily called "Major Astro" and they were network fields of pictures with only mouths moving type of cartoons.
anyway. . .Betty Boop from a German family and she didn't want to eat her stewed rabbit dish (Hasenpfeffer) cause she was a fragile flower so she ran away only to be scared straight by all the scary things out there in the real world. Reminds me of Cat Stevens "Wild World"
hours later. . I went to YouTube to download a Cat stevens song and somehow got involved in the Japanese news feeds from Burma/myanmar and what is unfolding there at this very moment. I have not been to the Youtube site to actually look around before and I thought I would make an account and see what the site was like.
do you always get fascinated by the variety of information on YouTube? it seemed that I could figure out what they were trying to get across even without any translation from the Japanese. . .
Merle
29 Sep 2007, 3:17 pm
rathermousie wrote:
... Unfortunately I am not in that pay grade. I am just a pharmacy technician. If it helps though I am the only pharmacy technician at my store so M-F I am the pharmacy swiss army knife. (inventory, insurance resolutions, clarifications with the doctor, requests for additional refills, drop-off, production, pick-up, answering the phone, helping to find items in the store, etc) At any given time we only have 3 people at the most: the pharmacist, myself and a PSA (pharmacy service associate) or cashier. We each have a primary and secondary station but we basically end up do a little bit of everything except for verification and consultation which are solely for the pharmacist.
Quick question... how come all my misspelled words were being underlined yesterday and they arn't today?
Unfortunately I am not in that pay grade. I am just a pharmacy technician. If it helps though I am the only pharmacy technician at my store so M-F I am the pharmacy swiss army knife. (inventory, insurance resolutions, clarifications with the doctor, requests for additional refills, drop-off, production, pick-up, answering the phone, helping to find items in the store, etc) At any given time we only have 3 people at the most: the pharmacist, myself and a PSA (pharmacy service associate) or cashier. We each have a primary and secondary station but we basically end up do a little bit of everything except for verification and consultation which are solely for the pharmacist. Quick question... how come all my misspelled words were being underlined yesterday and they arn't today?
Just nothing.
I work nights, so do the job you do, plus mine. - it's a handful just by itself. I work alone.
The underlining thing: Today you are being given a reprieve. It's Spell Any Way You Want to Day!! !
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29 Sep 2007, 3:23 pm
rathermousie wrote:
Chuck wrote:
rathermousie wrote:
Chuck wrote:
Welcome ... rathermousie!
Thanks
Would you be another pharmacist then? Ahhh. Heard the rant, even with my ears. Distinct, like the bellow of a bull moose in a bear-trap. The anguished rant of a wild pharmacist. My condolences.
Unfortunatly I am not in that pay grade. I am just a pharmacy technician. If it helps though I am the only pharmacy technician at my store so M-F I am the pharmacy swiss army knife. (inventory, insurance resolutions, clarifications with the doctor, requests for additional refills, drop-off, production, pick-up, awnsering the phone, helping to find items in the store, etc) At any given time we only have 3 people at the most: the pharmacist, myself and a PSA (pharmacy service associate) or cashier. We each have a primary and secondary station but we basically end up do a little bit of everything except for verification and consultation which are solely for the pharmacist. Quick question... how come all my mispelled words were being underlined yesterday and they arn't today?
do you have a 'Google' Toolbar on your browser heading? there is a check mark with a small ABC CHECK with a down pointing twistie. if you activate that button, the misspelled words come up and if you right click on them, it will even suggest what you might have ment and you can correct your words. right click where nothing else is and you can stop the function. handy little feature, that
hi, rathermousie, I'm merle
Merle
29 Sep 2007, 3:26 pm
sinsboldly wrote:
Nan wrote:
sinsboldly wrote:
hum...
now that I think of it, EVERYone looks like a geek on a webcam
now, let's see a show of hands. ... who is content with their image on a web cam??
Merle
now that I think of it, EVERYone looks like a geek on a webcam
now, let's see a show of hands. ... who is content with their image on a web cam??
Merle
uh, me?
transported back to black and white TV cartoons where my uncle told me of a life unknown, wondering why Minne the Moocher would be something shown on morning TV back before network feeds were given to rural tv stations and they had to make do by playing actual film they got from the Orepheum Theater down a block off Broadway and Douglas back from the 20's and 30' and 40's. We watched them until the "Sputnik" times came on where instead of cartoons we watched a picture of a NASA control room and the 'beep, beep, beep' of the little basket ball sized first man made satalite in 'outer space'. Then an afternoon kiddy show came on daily called "Major Astro" and they were network fields of pictures with only mouths moving type of cartoons.
anyway. . .Betty Boop from a German family and she didn't want to eat her stewed rabbit dish (Hasenpfeffer) cause she was a fragile flower so she ran away only to be scared straight by all the scary things out there in the real world. Reminds me of Cat Stevens "Wild World"
hours later. . I went to YouTube to download a Cat stevens song and somehow got involved in the Japanese news feeds from Burma/myanmar and what is unfolding there at this very moment. I have not been to the Youtube site to actually look around before and I thought I would make an account and see what the site was like.
do you always get fascinated by the variety of information on YouTube? it seemed that I could figure out what they were trying to get across even without any translation from the Japanese. . .
Merle
Yep! Can't believe it's free either!
I sit there and watch the foreign videos as well and pretend I can understand what's being said.
Tsk. Tsk. 'Tis sad.
I read foreign newspapers and listen to their radio shows too - I understand almost as much when I listen to English radio stations!
I love to listen to Japanese music - sounds like little kids singing.
That's probably not politically correct - but hey, to me it sounds like little kids singing.
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