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28 Dec 2015, 2:38 am

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Bear in mind some of us take pride in our heretical public image, sometimes that's the best thing to do. Be as heretical as you want whilst keeping the negativity to a minimum and that's one good way to come up with lots of completely unprecedented ideas.

Same reason OP didn't post anything we haven't both seen before.

Totally unrelated - can one of the mods change 'Disgusting' in the thread title to... anything else?


It doesn't make a great impression, though.


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03 Jan 2016, 4:09 pm

Dear Methodic,

Most of your first post belongs in PPR or The Haven. This thread is where we introduce ourselves, ask for friends, companionship, and understanding.....

All of which you can find here at WP.

If you want to.

Or you can hurt our feelings and pick fights.

Most of us here are not self-congratulatory elitists, we are lonely and have been for some time, and the newly-diagnosed are NOT happy with an attention-getting label, we are just terribly grateful to have FINALLY discovered what is wrong/different about us.

Please reread whatever posts you feel present any Aspies here as preferring our usually very bright but socially-dysfunctional mental processes to that of NTs.......

I believe that you will see we are all trying to find the right way to live with this condition.

Those who focus on the positive aspects of Aspergers are exactly like newly-blind people who are impressed by their improvement in hearing, touch and smell.

Read between the lines, and realize we are (mostly) good people trying to live with a common burden.......there might be some companionship and understanding here for you that can make your life a little easier.

I can assure you that you will NOT find another group of people who does understand the Aspergers experience.


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I was diagnosed with aspergers when I was 13. Before then I was in and out of multiple psychiatric institutions not knowing what was wrong with me. I grew overtime to hate every single other autistic individual I met. You may disregard me as a troll but I have a legitimate reasoning. No other community formed around a mental illness is as boisterous as the autism community.
There are multiple forums dedicated to social anxiety, depression, PTSD, etc... however, none glorify their own illness but instead treat it as something to overcome. I've been told by counselors to explain that I have autism before I meet people, or to embrace my aspergers as a part of who I am instead of as an illness. You, the autistic community, are tolerated solely because society can support you. Inclusion has become a concern to multiple people as well as private and public entities to save face. Autistics as well as anyone else labelled as a victim by society is included in an effort to broaden inclusiveness. Because of this, autistic people are encouraged to expect society to conform to them instead of they themselves conforming to society. However, autism isn't a different way of thinking, it is an illness.
You all depend on neurotypicals in some whether you like it or not. If society were comprised of a majority autistics, it would lead to ruination. Most autistics embrace their symptoms and their quirks and expect others to deal with them or help accommodate them. f**k that, and if it applies to you, f**k you. You are the problem and the reason I can't be taken seriously for admitting my disability. And to anyone who is self diagnosed but barely has any real autistic traits and are instead using the label for sympathy or attention, you are why people doubt autism is a legitimate illness. For years I dealt with my symptoms and struggled to become an independent adult. I only managed to do so out of grueling hard work for years on end. People with high functioning autism don't need coddling, they need to suffer until they appreciate independence and being able to train yourself to maintain a neurotypical appearance. Your eccentricity isn't a positive thing, it's obnoxious and you are a leach unless you figure out how to provide for yourself like everyone else. I hope you all rot. This is my first and last post here.



I kinda get this in some regard, although I've only skimmed through it.

I have Asperger's, or ASD1. I have explained to a few NT's that this is who I am, and to please forgive me if I say or do certain behaviors that are inappropriate or immature.

I've been on my own for the first time in my life this past year, and it has been tough. I also feel very foolish for admitting that I have this disorder, because if anything I've become a target for others to take advantage of me or others to say I am in denial of myself despite having documentation saying I am this.

It's difficult to live with a newfound truth, yet so much stuff has happened gaining me experience in fields that I didn't think would improve over time. Living my entire life through that of an NT's perspective wondering why everything was so different, and so far the only normalcy to me is that I felt I just didn't grow up yet.

Reading OP's post I can identify with his argument, Sans the toxicity since that is not who I am. I'm a very open minded, self articulate, level headed, intelligent and humble person. And I enjoy knowing that this is the type of life that I lead. Having this "disorder", if anything, has only catalysted me into possibly portraying myself to be more abstract and mysterious.

Some people like that, others don't. But I feel I have found a special kind of nirvana within myself knowing I've lived as an NT, and having some traits of the spectrum that has opened mental barriers that'd probably be nonexistent had I just been purely neurotypical. So down to my conclusion, I've no interest in sharing to others that I have "so & so", because I refused to be placed in a stereotype for whatever reason, blah blah. However, if it's due to my autistic characteristics that I am a little eccentric, then that's fine. But I'll leave that to the beholder to try and figure me out.

Honestly though, I don't really care to embrace this part of my life. Or to quote OP, "to Glorify!". f**k that. I do just fine on my own, and I don't need such a label to express who I am. I am an individual, and that's all that matters.

Perhaps this is why I keep to myself and avoid a lot of things that other autistic people go through. Averting potential nuclear disaster where I am placed in an undesirable or uncomfortable environment is just begging me to say that I have so and so.

And I'd hate for more than anything to see that someone would assume I'd use my illness as a crutch.



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05 Jan 2016, 9:34 am

Speak for yourself, I've glorified nothing.



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05 Jan 2016, 9:39 am

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You may disregard me as a troll. This is my first and last post here.


It seems that you lied about the latter, therefore I'll have to assume you are indeed the former.

Welcome to WP anyway, don't let the door hit you in the Aspie on your way out! :D


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05 Jan 2016, 1:10 pm

I dont really understand the OPs post or this debate.

Is it a bad thing to have asperger's vs Autism that is not aspergers?

Is it just the fact that there is no longer a separate diagnosis?

I am high functioning. I am sorry if that makes me a bad person for joining this site and getting support and advice. I feel like I have grown since I have been here.

Can someone please explain it to me?



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05 Jan 2016, 2:25 pm

^You're a wonderful person, Mr. Machamp! :) I love everyone here, and I'm so glad that I found this forum! Here's a kitty to cheer you up: Image


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05 Jan 2016, 2:35 pm

Yeah yeah I've heard it all before....but not even every neurotypical conforms perfectly to society, either so why should I? Also autism has to do with differences in neurology, is more complex than a soley psychological disorder its physiological to. I'm not saying its a bad thing to work on areas you struggle and make improvements were you can...but there isn't a cure for autism and talk therapy isn't going to make you 'overcome' it so better to accept oneself as an autistic individual rather than a terribly afflicted neurotypical that will one day be 100% perfectly normal or at least pass that way if only they try really hard.

I refuse to see it as a 100% negative thing, but I also would not go as far as saying its not a disorder and doesn't cause difficulties with some functioning people take for granted. Also though it seems like you want it to be recognized as a disorder yet you seem opposed to help and/or accommodations for autistic individuals...so we can 'just deal with it' like everyone else. Well which is it should it be acknowledged as a disability were people will need assistence to varying degrees depending on severity, or simply not be recognized so there is no risk of the dread coddling you speak of?


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05 Jan 2016, 2:38 pm

Asperger's isn't a disorder for me because I don't believe that it is. That being said, perhaps I don't fit into the generalness of Asperger's , so...*shrug*


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05 Jan 2016, 3:05 pm

Asperger's is dick. Therefore, Aliens.



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05 Jan 2016, 3:25 pm

Bald-Accountant wrote:
I dont really understand the OPs post or this debate.

Can someone please explain it to me?

It's really very strange, but I've seen people say strange things like these before. It's just trolling and frankly, it's really not making new people like me feel very welcome. I don't understand why this isn't simply getting deleted or at the least getting locked?

Anyway, I'll try and make my stay here the most enjoyable I possibly can :D



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05 Jan 2016, 3:54 pm

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You have the right to your opinion but I think you'll find that's not a popular opinion around here and deliberately trying to antagonize folks probably won't achieve much.

Sad when reality is considered antagonizing. Seems to me this site is a delusional hug box.

You sound like you need a hug.



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07 Jan 2016, 10:39 am

A big hug for everyone. :heart:
I find beauty in many different aspects of life, so it's not hard for me to be happy. :)


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10 Jan 2016, 11:13 pm

OP, why are you so angry and congrats if you are doing well and independent. What would really be impressive is if you had some words of wisdom for a person on the spectrum concerned about living life as an independent adult.


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