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09 Oct 2007, 12:47 pm

I was thinking the other night about how I walk, where my face is, where my eyes go naturally. It is an effort, conscious, to keep the outside flow of things in view, eyes wondering. It was necessary in parts of my other life. When I say I'm not a saint, you best believe it, that my back was against a wall and my eyes on the openings to a room wasn't just paranoia, it was important. I tend to look down, at the floor if you will. The obvious is Huxley's the Doors of Perception, but you know that. I think you described what I see in it very well and it is different and will be to others. Which lends to the title and your observation, someone is going to look at it differently. We may look at the floor, but that does not mean we aren't active to what's around us, it may just be over whelming, but we are attuned and I don't care if anyone thinks it or not. Always trying to figure out something, either in our head world or our surroundings, like there is really any choice in the matter sometimes. I think it lends itself to trying to figure it all out, our doors, how to fit in and a different way to approach it, coping skills to be formed or improved upon. Maybe that's way I just look at the psychedelics as just an amplifier, both good and bad sides of it, I was already there. But the kind he (Huxley) did, always treated me better, much mellower. Unfortunately, I live for the intense, so when it was good it was very good, when it was bad it was very bad.

The floor is just where my gaze would rather be. That very often we're in an environment we wouldn't choose if we had a real choice. Harrison's song..I look at it all and I see the floor needs sweeping, while my guitar gently weeps, or something close. So it can be a form of what would appear to be a sign of sadness. But in the song he is very good at lending it to a piece of well done word image. Great song and I don't think it suffered any because Clapton helped.

With me I put it to good use. With me, while I searched the many thousands of square miles for Native American sites, still unknown, my eyes were always on the ground, looking for what didn't fit that picture. Subtle changes that would escape the normal eye. Hell I walked for hours at a time, ate my food while walking, I just did not stop, for huge amounts of time. Obsession at work. I did it for years, about 15 before the pro world opened. I still walk with my eyes to the ground, unless, I'm forced into being polite to those around me. But when my eyes are up, I'm doing the Anthro thing, body language reading and listening for what isn't being said, that's when I get accused of reading minds. I already know what's going to come out of their mouths, NT's are predictable for the most part. Unless you meet a smart one, then it isn't hard to find a mutual obsession or something in between the buttons. In Between the Buttons is a Stones album by the way.


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09 Oct 2007, 1:12 pm

Thanks for the concern Blessedmom.I haven't even begun to look for another job.This one had mellowed out enough to make the process seem"put offable".Focusing on getting the apartment cleaned and the magazine seemed more immediate issues.The former is mostly resolved and the latter is driving me insane for various reasons.Part of me always wants to say...screw everything and go "make something" fun,(which is what I thought the magazine would be,ha.)

I dont act because I cant decide what To do.That is both true of my job hunting and my situation at work...because I could not decide the proper thing to do,I just kept busy cleaning,something I knew how to do right.I was paralysized by indicission and I am when it comes to what job to look for....I just want to read and make things and get paid for it,who wouldnt?Going back into social services seems very depressing to me but it is the only thing I have done for 16 years.Nothing else sounds all the appealing either......deciding is important because once I act it is hard for me to change directions...I was stuck at the last job fr 4 years,even though I wanted to quit for the last 3 of them.(I always start by being optimistic and assuming the best and only after being hit over the head with reality oer 100 times,do I let myself admit the problems)


Anyway,I wish you well in your choices and hope your family can learn to adjust to the changes.It isnt fare that wives and moms seem to get stuck in the ...."your not allowed to change because you are the only stability in my life"because they are
developing intitiies to....even "rocks change" when exposed to the weather,nothing is meant to stay stagnant....but change means everyone around you has to "adjust" and they need to be willing to do that(me thinks).


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09 Oct 2007, 1:30 pm

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You might consider this...

I often read through, and when I see a message I mean to respond to. I just "middle click" on the "Quote" or "Reply". That puts it into a new tab. I'll then sketch what I want to say, and leave it until later.

When I've finished catching up on the thread, and no one has said what I was going to say already, for instance, I'll finish it off and post it.


Another tid-bit for my "WP scrap-book"


Me too. Just gave the middle click a try with this post. Thanks.


Middle click?? 8O
I'm click impaired?



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09 Oct 2007, 1:36 pm

Nan wrote:
cosmiccat wrote:
richie wrote:
lau wrote:
You might consider this...

I often read through, and when I see a message I mean to respond to. I just "middle click" on the "Quote" or "Reply". That puts it into a new tab. I'll then sketch what I want to say, and leave it until later.

When I've finished catching up on the thread, and no one has said what I was going to say already, for instance, I'll finish it off and post it.


Another tid-bit for my "WP scrap-book"


Me too. Just gave the middle click a try with this post. Thanks.


Middle click?? 8O
I'm click impaired?


Right click. :lol: and then "open in new tab". I had the same problem. :wink:


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09 Oct 2007, 1:41 pm

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Thanks for the concern Blessedmom.I haven't even begun to look for another job.This one had mellowed out enough to make the process seem"put offable".Focusing on getting the apartment cleaned and the magazine seemed more immediate issues.The former is mostly resolved and the latter is driving me insane for various reasons.Part of me always wants to say...screw everything and go "make something" fun,(which is what I thought the magazine would be,ha.)

I dont act because I cant decide what To do.That is both true of my job hunting and my situation at work...because I could not decide the proper thing to do,I just kept busy cleaning,something I knew how to do right.I was paralysized by indicission and I am when it comes to what job to look for....I just want to read and make things and get paid for it,who wouldnt?Going back into social services seems very depressing to me but it is the only thing I have done for 16 years.Nothing else sounds all the appealing either......deciding is important because once I act it is hard for me to change directions...I was stuck at the last job fr 4 years,even though I wanted to quit for the last 3 of them.(I always start by being optimistic and assuming the best and only after being hit over the head with reality oer 100 times,do I let myself admit the problems)


Anyway,I wish you well in your choices and hope your family can learn to adjust to the changes.It isnt fare that wives and moms seem to get stuck in the ...."your not allowed to change because you are the only stability in my life"because they are
developing intitiies to....even "rocks change" when exposed to the weather,nothing is meant to stay stagnant....but change means everyone around you has to "adjust" and they need to be willing to do that(me thinks).


Something fun sounds great right about now!! :wink: :lol:
Wouldn't it be cool if you could actually make money being crafty!

My kids seem to be adjusting fairly well. It's me that has the change and moving forward issues. I seem to have gotten stuck. :roll:


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09 Oct 2007, 2:19 pm

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Thanks for the info Chuck.I never thought of myself as ADHD because most situations when I am in public I am like a deer in the headlights...frozen and immobel from fear.I did have teachers when I was younger say I wouldnt stay in my seat,always jumping up to "help" a student who was having problems(they had the nerve to tell me that was "their job",imagine...if they were doing "their job" well enough then the kid wouldnt be heving problems,now would they...but I degress)I was pretty much cured of that by JrHigh,whe I realized the people were dangerious and it was best not to call attention to yourself...thus the "frozen statue" pose.

I seldom had a problem focusing on reading(like my BF)could do it with a TV,radio on but was constantly told I was "spacing out" by others...so maybe there are two different kinds of "attention"?I do think that a big part of "not remembering" where I put my shoes(something that has plegued me since childhood),is because I dont pay attention when I am doing this things...my head is elsewhere.....it's just not being recordered,therefor,no recall.This has recently become a problem at my job and may end up getting me fired......heres what happened yesterday.....



A cat fell out of it's kennel(about 5 feet off the ground.)I dont know for sure,but theis may have been because I didnt latch the door properly after feeding it breakfast.Some of the doors do "stick" but I had never noticed that with this door and even checked it after and it seems to close OK with just a push.The cat is currently at the vets and appears to be paralysed,possible dislocation of hind leg and may have suffered a stoke.I am getting some very dirty looks at work and there is a lot of whispering going on.I dread going back.They had seemed to "tolerate me" up to this point.It isnt the firing that is worrying me it's the hostile vibe I am picking up.I have been scape goated to many times to believe I am being paranoid about this.


A further complication is.......An assistant manager saw the whole thing happen but never reported it.We both saw the cat moving and on it's feet after the fall and she claims that it was fine all day.That night when I came in,another staff told me and another assistant manager that the cat was not moving and laying in it's own urine and feces.
but she had cleaned around it the best she could.We bth thought the assitant manager should contact someone,but it was Sunday night,9pm,and he said she was being "overly dramatic".I checked on the cat several times through out the night and it had changed position but was not standing or eating anything.I wrote all this down in the communication log(including the falling yesterday,which no one had written up....it happened after I had checked out and was leaving for the day and I assumed the assistant manager would file an inciddent report,as she observed it.)....Nobody had written anything all day or night,whcih is pretty usual for this place.

So I talked to the assistant manager when they showed up at 6am and they contacted the manager....now it is "everyone cover your ass time" and I am at the very bottom of the "pecking order" and may have not latched the door(it is possible that the cat unlatched,it has happened).But it has also happened that I(and other,including my manager)have not latched the kennel doors,some of which do "stick".

Sso noe,my wonderful ability to focus...cant seem to focus anywhere else.I ca't seem to process the whole thing.I should have called the manager when I got to work at 9pm,if I had only not let myself worry about what the assistant manager would say abt me "going against his call".I have stepped on so many toes there already,no one wants to get close to me(actualy OK with me,but puts me in a dangerious position as I have no allies).




The "deer in the headlights" is a univeral learned behavior, Krexie. Unfortunately. Ya get bit if you jump left, you get bit if you jump right, you get bit if you duck, you get bit if you move back, you get bit if you move forward, and you don't get bit if you just freeze. Doesn't take very long to know which one is best.

So sorry about the cat fiasco. Sometimes the damage doesn't show up right away, unfortunately. They'll wander around for a while and then go down and not get back up again. But... That's pretty weird about the cat only falling 5 feet and not landing on his/her own. Cats do not tend to land on their backsides unless there is something already wrong with them. Is everyone certain that the cat was 100% ok when it checked in? Was this an extremely elderly cat? Is there a chance anyone got into that cage after you put the cat in it? Can they absolutely prove nobody got in there? Is there a chance that the latch is defective? Is the latch "Cat Proof"? (You'd be amazed at what they can do to latches and get out of cages - little Houdini's.) At the shelter they ended up one time with a cat in the dryer and only realized it was in there by the thumping. (It lived, concussion). Nobody knew how the hell it got in there....

That's so unpleasant about the "sh** rolls downhill" scenario that's going on, but it does tend to do that. All you can do is state what you know happened. You followed protocol and procedures. If anything, it's your supervisor who should take the heat. How it will play out is nothing you can know, unfortunately, right now, so you'll just have to grit your teeth through it.



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09 Oct 2007, 2:26 pm

blessedmom wrote:
Nan wrote:
cosmiccat wrote:
richie wrote:
lau wrote:
You might consider this...

I often read through, and when I see a message I mean to respond to. I just "middle click" on the "Quote" or "Reply". That puts it into a new tab. I'll then sketch what I want to say, and leave it until later.

When I've finished catching up on the thread, and no one has said what I was going to say already, for instance, I'll finish it off and post it.


Another tid-bit for my "WP scrap-book"


Me too. Just gave the middle click a try with this post. Thanks.


Middle click?? 8O
I'm click impaired?


Right click. :lol: and then "open in new tab". I had the same problem. :wink:



TOOOOOO complicated. :wink:

I'm doing well thinking of a response at all, not going to worry about more clicking! Heck, it was months before I figured out that those little icons were how everybody was posting videos and stuff. :oops:



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09 Oct 2007, 2:36 pm

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With me I put it to good use. With me, while I searched the many thousands of square miles for Native American sites, still unknown, my eyes were always on the ground, looking for what didn't fit that picture.


Hey Postie. It's easier to look at the floor, so you can concentrate on what's around you. :)

Indian artifacts. I have what appears to be a stone axe head that my grandfather dug up somewhere in southern Morris County, NJ. Probably very near Pine Brook/Parsippany/Troy Hills. He had a whole bunch of that stuff in his cellar, at one time (he used to work for a dairy and would find things when he plowed the fields - back in the days of horsedrawn plows). I was given this one. Any idea what group of Native Americans this might have been? As in who lived in that area? - Nan



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09 Oct 2007, 2:41 pm

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Nannarob,I'm glad you had a good time....I'm sure your positive energy draws interesting people to you(and your open mindedness allows you to communicate with them).This is one of my biggest regrets in being "shy"...I am really fascintaed by people but hiding under the table,I never seem to get to know as many as I would like.

I was given adderal after I was first DXed AS...I thought it a bt odd,as the psych never said I was ADD/ADHD but recommended that I go see this women who was supposed to be the expert on AS and it's what she prescribed.I took 5 millagrams and another 5 after 6 hours.....I dont think I blinked for 12 hours,or een moved other then hitting the computer "click buttons".....it was a bit "to much" focus for me,so I stopped taking them.I didn;t feel "stimulated",I felt paralyzed and did not like it.I can see how it could "cure stims",as I could barely move but I hated the feeling.Anyone know why my body wld react this way?


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The Face of Aspergers
Aspergers Speaks
A Long Way From Home
Phone Home
Not Typical
The Floors of Perception
NoStarsAponThars


Ya know, if it were me, and it's not, I'd stay away from anything that even mentioned asperger's, or not-typical, or not-normal. I'd just pick out something else. Why prime them?



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09 Oct 2007, 2:56 pm

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"...I "zone out" and "space out" (actually, I get deeply lost in thought). Or I head into a room, forget what I went there for, start on something else. Go back later, see something that sparks my memory of what I first intended to do, head back to do it, then forget again. :lol: :roll: People talk to me, before I know it I'm daydreaming - especially if it is a long one-on-one conversation, or very shortly after "participating" in a group discussion.]. ..."



Thats ADD/ADHD/WHATEVERITSCALLED?!?!?!?! You're kidding, right?

Oh my. 8O 8O 8O

I thought everybody did that.

Really.



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09 Oct 2007, 3:01 pm

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With me I put it to good use. With me, while I searched the many thousands of square miles for Native American sites, still unknown, my eyes were always on the ground, looking for what didn't fit that picture.


Hey Postie. It's easier to look at the floor, so you can concentrate on what's around you. :)

Indian artifacts. I have what appears to be a stone axe head that my grandfather dug up somewhere in southern Morris County, NJ. Probably very near Pine Brook/Parsippany/Troy Hills. He had a whole bunch of that stuff in his cellar, at one time (he used to work for a dairy and would find things when he plowed the fields - back in the days of horsedrawn plows). I was given this one. Any idea what group of Native Americans this might have been? - Nan


Jersey has an abundance of what are called "grooved" axes. Well there are never really an abundance of them. Then there are the type with no groves, celts. Then there are the type that would look like a celt but would really be an adze. The difference is where the center of the cutting edge is. Then there are some that are better put as chisels. So in reality I'd have to see it. To pin a culture to it, yeah it's possible, but it would have to be very unique. To put it into a more generalized time frame less hard. This is a picture of a 3/4 grooved axe, there are other types with in the grooved family as well. Grooved axes in Jersey are as a rule are really really old, as in Early Archaic old, very often found with bifurcate type points or other really distinct point types. Of course there are exceptions to that rule of thumb as well.

I don't recall working in that particular spot or area, it wouldn't really matter anyway. But that wouldn't be surprising if I had, most was just a blur of exit signs off of the turnpikes or interstates. The only ones that really stand out any more are the ones we actually found something. You spend more time finding nothing then you do with actual objects. Most sites are multi-component so even if the exact spot was known if it was just picked up off the surface it would be an educated guess and there is a lot of that done even by the pro's.



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09 Oct 2007, 3:11 pm

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Jersey has an abundance of what are called "grooved" axes. Well there are never really an abundance of them. Then there are the type with no groves, celts. Then there are the type that would look like a celt but would really be an adze. The difference is where the center of the cutting edge is. Then there are some that are better put as chisels. So in reality I'd have to see it. To pin a culture to it, yeah it's possible, but it would have to be very unique. To put it into a more generalized time frame less hard. This is a picture of a 3/4 grooved axe, there are other types with in the grooved family as well. Grooved axes in Jersey are as a rule are really really old, as in Early Archaic old, very often found with bifurcate type points or other really distinct point types. Of course there are exceptions to that rule of thumb as well.

I don't recall working in that particular spot or area, it wouldn't really matter anyway. But that wouldn't be surprising if I had, most was just a blur of exit signs off of the turnpikes or interstates. The only ones that really stand out any more are the ones we actually found something. You spend more time finding nothing then you do with actual objects. Most sites are multi-component so even if the exact spot was known if it was just picked up off the surface it would be an educated guess and there is a lot of that done even by the pro's.


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It looks like the same kind of stone, Postie. Memory says mine is a bit lighter in color. But it's not square like that. It's oval on the "sharp" edge. But there's the groove at one end, yes. It's shaped kinda like a fish. If I can remember which packing box it's in I'll pull it out and take a pic of it. Always wondered about it.



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09 Oct 2007, 3:21 pm

"Floors of Perception" That would be a great title of a chapter dealing with whatever meds the shrinks put us on.


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09 Oct 2007, 3:24 pm

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This is a full grooved axe. The material isn't so important, again exceptions. But as a rule, metamorphic stone, often just found or imported from glacier till.
If this fits it better, I'd have to actually find my books, I can't pull dates out of my head anymore. Been away from it too long.

I have seen a guy make one on his coffee breaks, just using what is called the pecking method. He didn't bother to polish it, although the blade itself is a form of polish, after the pecking. I always end up breaking the damn things before I ever get one done. But he did it in short order, hafted it and cut down a very small tree with it. The tree had to go anyway.

I can still make "arrowheads" just using another stone. Even notching them, which to my knowledge isn't a known way of doing it. Although I do find pressure flaking easier to do for the notching.


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09 Oct 2007, 4:13 pm

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This is a full grooved axe. The material isn't so important, again exceptions. But as a rule, metamorphic stone, often just found or imported from glacier till.
If this fits it better, I'd have to actually find my books, I can't pull dates out of my head anymore. Been away from it too long.



It is longer, more oval, rather thin. There's not the sharp angle up by the notch. Heck, I'm no artist, that's obvious! It's light color stone, don't know the kind, really hard. Can't see where anything was ever chipped off it. The edge on it is real smooth. No chunks out of it or anything. But this is all from memory, I haven't seen it in a year.

I'll ask the kid if she remembers where I put it. It would be in with the "keeper/important heirloom" stuff, whichever box that is. Thanks for trying anyway, Postie.

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09 Oct 2007, 4:17 pm

Yeah ok, I did work near that area. We stayed in Mount Laurel, but the work was on the Rancocas River. Hit a hellava feature on a bluff over looking the river, the interstate noise was freakin deafening. Never did figure out what that feature was, it was of laid up stone, never have seen anything like it before or since. The pipeline still went through it, but they protected it using padding. The project area was huge, but like all of them you have to stay on the right of way, even if there is something of huge import 2 meters away.


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