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10 Oct 2007, 11:13 am

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Nannarob,I'm glad you had a good time....I'm sure your positive energy draws interesting people to you(and your open mindedness allows you to communicate with them).This is one of my biggest regrets in being "shy"...I am really fascintaed by people but hiding under the table,I never seem to get to know as many as I would like.

I was given adderal after I was first DXed AS...I thought it a bt odd,as the psych never said I was ADD/ADHD but recommended that I go see this women who was supposed to be the expert on AS and it's what she prescribed.I took 5 millagrams and another 5 after 6 hours.....I dont think I blinked for 12 hours,or een moved other then hitting the computer "click buttons".....it was a bit "to much" focus for me,so I stopped taking them.I didn;t feel "stimulated",I felt paralyzed and did not like it.I can see how it could "cure stims",as I could barely move but I hated the feeling.Anyone know why my body wld react this way?


Still looking for a name.........

The Face of Aspergers
Aspergers Speaks
A Long Way From Home
Phone Home
Not Typical
The Floors of Perception
NoStarsAponThars


How about:

A Step Apart
Next to the Crowd ('cause we certainly don't want to be IN the crowd ;) )
Through the Storm
Unfiltered


I like "Unfiltered."



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10 Oct 2007, 11:17 am

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Nan, a few pages back, you were wondering about the Native American population in New Jersey. I seem to remember learning about the Lenni Lenape tribe, back in third grade, as being common in the New Jersey area.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenape


Hmm, thanks! I've heard that name before.



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10 Oct 2007, 11:22 am

The ADHD/ADD issue.... Chuck makes it sound so simple, but there are really so many other things involved.(Sorry, hun, I don't usually throw in my two cents but I will this time :wink: ) And just like AS there are so many ways it can present in each different person. Hyper-focus??? I couldn't hyper-focus on anything if my life depended on it, and then I would be so stressed I know I wouldn't be able to focus! :lol:

I have a faulty filter. I can rarely block out sounds, visuals, smells or activity. I have to make sure that if I want to be able to do what I need to do, there is no distraction. The number of times that I have burned dinner because someone or something distracted me is incredible. I had to make a rule that NO ONE is allowed in the kitchen when I am cooking, I don't answer the phone and I keep a timer in my pocket so that if I leave the kitchen, I don't forget about dinner (which I can do :roll: ). I also have to have music on at all times because as soon as the room is quiet my mind starts to wander away from whatever it is I am doing. I am always doing two things at once or I can't focus on either one. If I'm watching TV I'm knitting or reading and I retain info from both. If I'm on this computer, I type some, then I fold some laundry, get a drink from the kitchen, pet the dog, come back to the computer, read and post some more, get up and load the dishwasher, build a lego house with the dayhome kids, come back to computer, knit while I'm reading posts or most likely talk on the phone while I'm typing like I'm doing now and that is all in an hour or less. :roll: My daughter is allowed to stand at her desk or fiddle with the string of beads in her desk while she is working, because if she isn't moving, her mind will wander and she won't get her work done. When I do just sit, I start to fall asleep. No one who knows me would ever accuse me of being hyper because I don't look it. It is annoying. And then there is the talking. I talk to the dogs, to the kids, to the furniture, to the plants, to myself. I have to make a conscious effort to be quiet. I get tired of listening to me at times. :lol: And my 2 ADHD kids also talk, ALL OF THE TIME, even when they are sleeping! 8O

And then there is the emotional roller coaster that most of us ride. You all saw it yesterday! :oops: When we are happy we are elated and we love everyone! When we are angry we shock the people around us with our intensity. Fortunately, I don't anger easily. When we are sad the world may as well be ending. We wear our hearts on our sleeves. Add that to poor compulsion control and I'm guessing we could drive just about anyone nuts. We are the butterflies and the drama queens (or in my sons case, Emo Prince :lol: ) Unlike bipolar disorder, ADD mood swings take place in a matter of minutes.

I could go on and on, about Executive function issues and lack of organization skills, and moving through life being wicked busy but never really getting anything done. If you want to know more about adult ADHD, I recommend reading, "You Mean I'm Not Lazy, Stupid or Crazy?!" by Kate Kelly and Peggy Ramundo (both women with ADHD) or "Women With Attention Deficit Disorder" by Sari Solden. Her website is also good for information.


Sari Solden

And this is a great site with a good screening tool:

Adult ADHD


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10 Oct 2007, 11:22 am

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Hey, but if it was, wouldn't it happen all the time? Like, you couldn't make a conscious effort to shut it off? ... If you could control it, then it can't be a hardwired thing, right?

Doesn't work like that. Hardly anything divides up into either totally hardwired or totally learned. Also, stuff you learned can become fairly automatic and more hardwired behaviour can be cotnrolled. Think of driving. That is not hardwired, but once you learned, you don't need to control every single step. The obsessive behaviours in OCD are often things quite specific to life in a technological civilization, so it's unlikely they are hardwired, but they are difficult to control. And at least some hardwired responses can be controlled. Not stepping of a cliff into empty air is more on the hardwired side, but there are people who go skydiving for fun.

I know hardly anything about ADD and ADHD specifically, but I searched around a bit, and found this. That might give a bit of background.


Mmm, interesting. I will have to look at this at lunch break, could only just skim it now. Thank you!



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10 Oct 2007, 11:23 am

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CC, I wish you were my neighbour! :)


But I am your neighbor, Lauri. And I'm only a click away. How's your freak flag flyin'?


CC, You have no idea how much that means to me, especially today!! Thank you, thank you, thank you! :) My freak flag is flying at half mast. :(


Whazzamatta, Mom??... oh, later post.

You know, Mom, you're not alone. There's just nobody physically there with you at present. WE'RE there, ya know. And considering you're taking a bubble bath, I dunno if you really want Postie in the room or not.... :wink:


:oops: mmmmm.........wwweeeelllll.....(looks at floor and shuffles feet)....NO!! :oops:



Ah, that proves you're one of "us" - you looked at the floor! Hah. :wink:



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10 Oct 2007, 11:34 am

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The ADHD/ADD issue.... Chuck makes it sound so simple, but there are really so many other things involved.(Sorry, hun, I don't usually throw in my two cents but I will this time :wink: ) And just like AS there are so many ways it can present in each different person. Hyper-focus??? I couldn't hyper-focus on anything if my life depended on it, and then I would be so stressed I know I wouldn't be able to focus! :lol:

I have a faulty filter. I can rarely block out sounds, visuals, smells or activity. I have to make sure that if I want to be able to do what I need to do, there is no distraction. The number of times that I have burned dinner because someone or something distracted me is incredible. I had to make a rule that NO ONE is allowed in the kitchen when I am cooking, I don't answer the phone and I keep a timer in my pocket so that if I leave the kitchen, I don't forget about dinner (which I can do :roll: ). I also have to have music on at all times because as soon as the room is quiet my mind starts to wander away from whatever it is I am doing. I am always doing two things at once or I can't focus on either one. If I'm watching TV I'm knitting or reading and I retain info from both. If I'm on this computer, I type some, then I fold some laundry, get a drink from the kitchen, pet the dog, come back to the computer, read and post some more, get up and load the dishwasher, build a lego house with the dayhome kids, come back to computer, knit while I'm reading posts or most likely talk on the phone while I'm typing like I'm doing now and that is all in an hour or less. :roll: My daughter is allowed to stand at her desk or fiddle with the string of beads in her desk while she is working, because if she isn't moving, her mind will wander and she won't get her work done. When I do just sit, I start to fall asleep. No one who knows me would ever accuse me of being hyper because I don't look it. It is annoying. And then there is the talking. I talk to the dogs, to the kids, to the furniture, to the plants, to myself. I have to make a conscious effort to be quiet. I get tired of listening to me at times. :lol: And my 2 ADHD kids also talk, ALL OF THE TIME, even when they are sleeping! 8O

And then there is the emotional roller coaster that most of us ride. You all saw it yesterday! :oops: When we are happy we are elated and we love everyone! When we are angry we shock the people around us with our intensity. Fortunately, I don't anger easily. When we are sad the world may as well be ending. We wear our hearts on our sleeves. Add that to poor compulsion control and I'm guessing we could drive just about anyone nuts. We are the butterflies and the drama queens (or in my sons case, Emo Prince :lol: ) Unlike bipolar disorder, ADD mood swings take place in a matter of minutes.

I could go on and on, about Executive function issues and lack of organization skills, and moving through life being wicked busy but never really getting anything done. If you want to know more about adult ADHD, I recommend reading, "You Mean I'm Not Lazy, Stupid or Crazy?!" by Kate Kelly and Peggy Ramundo (both women with ADHD) or "Women With Attention Deficit Disorder" by Sari Solden. Her website is also good for information.


Sari Solden

And this is a great site with a good screening tool:

Adult ADHD


Hmmm, looked at the short screening tool and there's no way I fit that at all. If anything, when something requires a lot of thought I'm chomping at the bit to dive into it, drive everybody at work nuts by wanting to get stuff done early (in case there are problems) rather than doing diving catches at deadline time. Never get out of my seat - would bring attention, and I'd rather be dipped than do that. Arguably, I'd only score like a 5 or a 6 on this test.

Will read the additional material at lunch, thanks, Mom.

Anybody ever hand you a towel when you got out of the tub? :wink:



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10 Oct 2007, 11:40 am

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Hmmm, looked at the short screening tool and there's no way I fit that at all. If anything, when something requires a lot of thought I'm chomping at the bit to dive into it, drive everybody at work nuts by wanting to get stuff done early (in case there are problems) rather than doing diving catches at deadline time. Never get out of my seat - would bring attention, and I'd rather be dipped than do that. Arguably, I'd only score like a 5 or a 6 on this test.

Will read the additional material at lunch, thanks, Mom.

Anybody ever hand you a towel when you got out of the tub? :wink:


Just my imaginary boyfriend!! He's perfect, you know! :wink:

Nan, That definitely sounds like an AS trait. Imagine having 2 kids like you and 2 kids and an adult like me living in the same house. I always have one kids standing at the door 5 minutes early, repeating, "Mom, we have to go." "Come on, Mom! You said we are leaving at ?:00.", while I run around looking for my car keys, and whatever else I remember to do at that moment. It is very amusing, well, not for the AS kids but for me! :lol:


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10 Oct 2007, 11:45 am

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Yeah Hartz, the Lenape are still around. ...snip... Anyway, it's really really old, lol. Even older then I am. :wink:



Wow, I own something that's older than dirt? Ooooo. :wink: :lol:

You know, as I was driving in today I realized I'd told you wrong about the color of it. It's NOT light. I don't know where that came in - I think I was thinking of the color of my "dinosaur egg" and not the axe head. The axe head is very fine grained something, more the color of a greyish coffee. If that makes any sense at all. I think that in my mind I've got the two confused, somehow. Now I'm not sure if I told you the right shape, although I do remember that there are no sharp angles in the places that there weren't any in (oh, my. need coffee). The dinosaur egg is just a river rock that came out of the roadbed of what became highway 80 near the Passaic River. I picked it up when gramps took me for a walk over towards Fairfield (?) on the graded roadbed. It's tied to him and the time period I got the axe head from him (1966) so.... Never did hatch, though. Drove my mother nuts, I used to take the egg to bed at night to keep it warm so it would hatch. "On her clean sheets!", mind you. Oh my. :roll:

And it's going to drive me nuts until I remember where I put the damned axe head. Oh, well, I needed to organize that storeroom anyway - since the house hasn't sold and we've got it off the market until spring, there's no sense paying for a large storeroom. I'm thinking if I go through all those boxes there will be a lot of stuff we really don't need to keep and won't ever use that I should send to the charity bin. Maybe I can condense it down enough to go in a smaller storeroom. Maybe I'll even find my axe head in the process. Beats shampooing the carpet, which was on tap for this weekend....

Appreciate your research work, Postie. Thanks mucho!



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10 Oct 2007, 11:47 am

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Hmmm, looked at the short screening tool and there's no way I fit that at all. If anything, when something requires a lot of thought I'm chomping at the bit to dive into it, drive everybody at work nuts by wanting to get stuff done early (in case there are problems) rather than doing diving catches at deadline time. Never get out of my seat - would bring attention, and I'd rather be dipped than do that. Arguably, I'd only score like a 5 or a 6 on this test.

Will read the additional material at lunch, thanks, Mom.

Anybody ever hand you a towel when you got out of the tub? :wink:


Just my imaginary boyfriend!! He's perfect, you know! :wink:

Nan, That definitely sounds like an AS trait. Imagine having 2 kids like you and 2 kids and an adult like me like me living in the same house. I always have one kids standing at the door 5 minutes early, repeating, "Mom, we have to go." "Come on, Mom! You said we are leaving at ?:00.", while I run around looking for my car keys, and whatever else I remember to do at that moment. It is very amusing, well, not for the AS kids but for me! :lol:


Sounds like when I tell the kid we have to leave at 10:30 to get to the freeway in time to miss the blob o traffic so we can catch some other thing at 12:15 and, leaving in 5 minutes to fuel the car and exactly 7.5 minutes to go buy some coffee.... yeah. I know that scenario, Mom. The kid is Aspie, and not ADD/ADHD/ABC/WHATEVER, but she's not learned how to be organized enough to deal with planning "time" yet. Makes me freaking crazy, that does.

Can I borrow your imaginary boyfriend for the weekend?

I gots a lot of boxes to move and the trash needs to be carried out. :wink:



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10 Oct 2007, 11:50 am

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Hmmm, looked at the short screening tool and there's no way I fit that at all. If anything, when something requires a lot of thought I'm chomping at the bit to dive into it, drive everybody at work nuts by wanting to get stuff done early (in case there are problems) rather than doing diving catches at deadline time. Never get out of my seat - would bring attention, and I'd rather be dipped than do that. Arguably, I'd only score like a 5 or a 6 on this test.

Will read the additional material at lunch, thanks, Mom.

Anybody ever hand you a towel when you got out of the tub? :wink:


Just my imaginary boyfriend!! He's perfect, you know! :wink:

Nan, That definitely sounds like an AS trait. Imagine having 2 kids like you and 2 kids and an adult like me like me living in the same house. I always have one kids standing at the door 5 minutes early, repeating, "Mom, we have to go." "Come on, Mom! You said we are leaving at ?:00.", while I run around looking for my car keys, and whatever else I remember to do at that moment. It is very amusing, well, not for the AS kids but for me! :lol:


Can I borrow your imaginary boyfriend for the weekend?

I gots a lot of boxes to move and the trash needs to be carried out. :wink:


Certainly! What good is an imaginary boyfriend if you can't share him with your friends? :lol: :lol: Just remember to return him in the same shape I send him! :wink:


And hyper-focusing is an ADD thing in some people, like Chuck. I was just distracted the day they handed that one out!! :lol:


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10 Oct 2007, 12:04 pm

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Nannarob,I'm glad you had a good time....I'm sure your positive energy draws interesting people to you(and your open mindedness allows you to communicate with them).This is one of my biggest regrets in being "shy"...I am really fascintaed by people but hiding under the table,I never seem to get to know as many as I would like.

I was given adderal after I was first DXed AS...I thought it a bt odd,as the psych never said I was ADD/ADHD but recommended that I go see this women who was supposed to be the expert on AS and it's what she prescribed.I took 5 millagrams and another 5 after 6 hours.....I dont think I blinked for 12 hours,or een moved other then hitting the computer "click buttons".....it was a bit "to much" focus for me,so I stopped taking them.I didn;t feel "stimulated",I felt paralyzed and did not like it.I can see how it could "cure stims",as I could barely move but I hated the feeling.Anyone know why my body wld react this way?


Still looking for a name.........

The Face of Aspergers
Aspergers Speaks
A Long Way From Home
Phone Home
Not Typical
The Floors of Perception
NoStarsAponThars


How about:

A Step Apart
Next to the Crowd ('cause we certainly don't want to be IN the crowd ;) )
Through the Storm
Unfiltered



Something to remember about your manuscript...

http://chronicle.com/jobs/news/2007/10/ ... reers.html



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10 Oct 2007, 12:25 pm

Yesterday someone told me to watch some comedy so that is what I'm doing.

This is funny!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7L02tCNi0I[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpVjW30I-YU[/youtube]


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10 Oct 2007, 12:51 pm

Krex, this is an interesting thread. Apparently, this whispering business is something that Aspie's abhor and are subjected to quite a lot in the workplace.

Whispering



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10 Oct 2007, 1:00 pm

A bit more silliness for those who need it (and who doesn't):
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuPFBQNaSRM[/youtube]

If that is not enough, here is off road unicycling:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yny5ydAEHbI[/youtube]

I don't do these things. That's because I'm sane, I am. I'll wait until motorized pogo sticks have a bit more power and speed:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4amDWh9IUg[/youtube]


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10 Oct 2007, 2:43 pm

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Yeah Hartz, the Lenape are still around. ...snip... Anyway, it's really really old, lol. Even older then I am. :wink:



Wow, I own something that's older than dirt? Ooooo. :wink: :lol:

You know, as I was driving in today I realized I'd told you wrong about the color of it. It's NOT light. I don't know where that came in - I think I was thinking of the color of my "dinosaur egg" and not the axe head. The axe head is very fine grained something, more the color of a greyish coffee. If that makes any sense at all. I think that in my mind I've got the two confused, somehow. Now I'm not sure if I told you the right shape, although I do remember that there are no sharp angles in the places that there weren't any in (oh, my. need coffee). The dinosaur egg is just a river rock that came out of the roadbed of what became highway 80 near the Passaic River. I picked it up when gramps took me for a walk over towards Fairfield (?) on the graded roadbed. It's tied to him and the time period I got the axe head from him (1966) so.... Never did hatch, though. Drove my mother nuts, I used to take the egg to bed at night to keep it warm so it would hatch. "On her clean sheets!", mind you. Oh my. :roll:

And it's going to drive me nuts until I remember where I put the damned axe head. Oh, well, I needed to organize that storeroom anyway - since the house hasn't sold and we've got it off the market until spring, there's no sense paying for a large storeroom. I'm thinking if I go through all those boxes there will be a lot of stuff we really don't need to keep and won't ever use that I should send to the charity bin. Maybe I can condense it down enough to go in a smaller storeroom. Maybe I'll even find my axe head in the process. Beats shampooing the carpet, which was on tap for this weekend....

Appreciate your research work, Postie. Thanks mucho!


Wasn't any current research, I couldn't remember the exact span of the archaic for that area was all and I didn't know the full grooved was the earliest.

Lol, thank me for an obsession? That some how doesn't seem to fit exactly right. But then I was always amazed they actually gave me money to do that stuff, go figure.

Do you have an idea how many times on a dig we were asked by bystanders if we had found any dinosaur bones or gold? Some said it with a little giggle, but most didn't when it came to the dinosaurs. I use to keep a big ass nugget of fools gold in my field note box and when they asked I would pull it out and say, "you mean this junk?". Or my next answer was, "If I did they wouldn't let me keep it". I never had a real good reply for the bones and I knew a big ol cow bone wouldn't fit in my note box. It would get so bad, that one group had t-shirts made up with the 10 most dumb asked questions and answers on them. I mean it wasn't like you didn't want to explain what was going on, but you were working and you had big time constraints on you. Normally I would handle it when I was a crew chief, if it got bad enough you made hand outs for them. There are several good reasons Archaeo-whores slip quietly into an area and do the work and just leave. I just said one and then there are the looters.

You know something else? I never worked on a project were it wasn't 50/50 male female and it wasn't by company design. When you tried to get a crew together during the peak months you got who you could, no sex was even considered. I admired those ladies so much and Ladies everyone of them. That was horrible hard sweaty freezing back breaking work. You had no family life, we were the only family we had. You never stayed in one spot very long. If you stayed longer then 2 weeks it was luxuary. Travel was State to State, hundreds of miles between projects. And yet, they did it and did it just as damn good as I could, well almost. :wink: (some did it better, but I'll never admit it) Hell, SwampBlossom was no slouch at it. She was the only one I ever saw find a post mold feature in a test hole.


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10 Oct 2007, 6:14 pm

Thanks for the link on whispering CC.


Nan(the link to editor rejection job)....

I know it's highly unorthodox(who,me? 8O) but I was not going to send any rejection letters.I think they are stupid and pointless.I wouldnt want one(OK,my ToM extends only as far as my arm,I know).I was going to include this on the submission guidelines......If we are using your submission you will be notified as soon as we know which issue it will "fit" in.Others will be held for future issues or not used at all.When they are used in a future issue,you will be notified,if you dont receive a response from us,it is not going to be used.


I dont lie well and dont want to practice until I get good at it.I was taught,if you cant say something nice keep your mouth shut....I try to do that,as it seems like a good idea,most times.I am not in a position to judge someone else as a good writer/artist,just know what I like and was hoping to get others to look over the ones I thought were good and get feedback from them.This is especially true for topics that I have no background in...computers,tech,sciency stuff....I was going to submit those to people who have more knowledge in these areas to get their opinion on the submission.I dont have a degree in English(though I did take enough credits,if I had wanted to,could have taken it as a minor...but that dang spelling thing,convinced me,it wasnt aa good field for me.I do have years and years(and books and books)of experience as a reader and I do have some confidence in myself in being a good judge of good writing(enough to know I am not one of the better ones,though I have my lucid moments).

The whole topic is probably a mute one anyway as I had a little "meltdown" in an email to the "publisher".No publisher means no magazine,unless I want to do it all myself and.....not likely but havent completely given up on it.I find it is not good to make some decisions when you may get fired,may have killed a cat,have a really bad rash and are hemmoraging like crazy from your tumor infested uterus.....not sure about the planetary alignment,but maybe should not have sent the email?

Freak flag is down.....and this to shall pass.


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