Page 352 of 1007 [ 16106 posts ]
Go to page Previous 1 ... 349, 350, 351, 352, 353, 354, 355 ... 1007 Next
21 Oct 2007, 9:35 am
21 Oct 2007, 10:04 am
sinsboldly
Veteran
Joined: 21 Nov 2006
Gender: Female
Posts: 13,488
Location: Bandon-by-the-Sea, Oregon
21 Oct 2007, 10:06 am
21 Oct 2007, 10:31 am
postpaleo wrote:
blessedmom wrote:
AAAHHHH, bugger!! I did it again, didn't I???? OK, Postie!! ! There you go! 
Sorry can't do it this time. Every time I see that "thimble" word now, I just have to to chuckle. The picture it paints is just to demanding of my attention. Seems SwampBlossom's Grandmother did a fair amount of her rearing. Strong willed, strict, single woman, Welsh in background. A good few earlier Welsh settlements in the area, due to coal mining. Most long gone, deserted as the coal ran out and they would be a bit south of me. She supported a family almost, and for a large part of the time fully, single handed. She did it being a seamstress and a very good one, to my understanding now. She almost always had a thimble close by. When the later to be Wife misbehaved, it was a thimble in the head that was the decider on if the behavior was correct. The picture is just to rich to avoid, as I do know Mrs Blossom had a wild side to her. And that is an understatement.
I do think the picture Carroll painted when snark hunting didn't escape the children of that time. I don't think The Wife's Grandmother was the only one that did the thimble thumping. Soap probably paints a similar picture in their mind as well, on several fronts. I have a feeling Carroll hated kids as much as I do. That's just plain cruel to put those images in a kids story. But then again, they would understand how useful they would be in getting those snarks taken care of, properly.
I don't think Carroll hated kids. Kids back then weren't raised to be as coddled and sensitive as they are now. It was amusement and many of the stories and nursery rhymes were meant to teach a lesson or help children deal mentally with the unknown horrors that surrounded them. (Warning, you just hit on another perseveration).
When I was in college we studied children's literature and some of those nursery rhymes that we sing to our babies stem from the worst criminals and events. Ring Around the Rosy (A Ring-a-ring a rosies) was about the bubonic plague and was originally: A ring-a-ring o' rosies (the small round rashes that appeared on the body first), a pocket full of posies (thought to ward off the evil spirits that caused the plague), atchoo, atchoo we all fall dead.
Rubadubdub three men in a tub and who do you think they be,
The butcher, the baker, the candlestick maker
Turn 'em out, naves all 3. (A lovely little tryst between 3 gay men)
Georgie Peorgie pudding and pie,
kissed the girls and made them cry.
When the boys came out to play,
Georgie Peorgie ran away. (A child molester)
I could go on and on. And I didn't mention the wonderful stories meant to scare kids into using there manners. The Germans did the best job of those.
My grandfather hadn't quite left that time period and he told us the most horrible stories and played some pretty strange tricks on us that most parents now would be hollering abuse about but we just loved it. And I have memories of him that my kids don't have about their grandparents. Sad, really.
21 Oct 2007, 11:17 am
21 Oct 2007, 11:20 am
21 Oct 2007, 11:31 am
21 Oct 2007, 11:31 am
SleepyDragon wrote:
Hey Nan, you're not going to believe this, but "bub" or "bubba" is an Australian term of affection for "baby". Another nickname appropriated. Wouldn't that frost ya, huh?
Gaaaaaaaaaaaak!
21 Oct 2007, 11:33 am
21 Oct 2007, 11:34 am
blessedmom wrote:
I don't think Carroll hated kids. Kids back then weren't raised to be as coddled and sensitive as they are now. It was amusement and many of the stories and nursery rhymes were meant to teach a lesson or help children deal mentally with the unknown horrors that surrounded them. (Warning, you just hit on another perseveration).
When I was in college we studied children's literature and some of those nursery rhymes that we sing to our babies stem from the worst criminals and events. Ring Around the Rosy (A Ring-a-ring a rosies) was about the bubonic plague and was originally: A ring-a-ring o' rosies (the small round rashes that appeared on the body first), a pocket full of posies (thought to ward off the evil spirits that caused the plague), atchoo, atchoo we all fall dead.
Rubadubdub three men in a tub and who do you think they be,
The butcher, the baker, the candlestick maker
Turn 'em out, naves all 3. (A lovely little tryst between 3 gay men)
Georgie Peorgie pudding and pie,
kissed the girls and made them cry.
When the boys came out to play,
Georgie Peorgie ran away. (A child molester)
I could go on and on. And I didn't mention the wonderful stories meant to scare kids into using there manners. The Germans did the best job of those.
When I was in college we studied children's literature and some of those nursery rhymes that we sing to our babies stem from the worst criminals and events. Ring Around the Rosy (A Ring-a-ring a rosies) was about the bubonic plague and was originally: A ring-a-ring o' rosies (the small round rashes that appeared on the body first), a pocket full of posies (thought to ward off the evil spirits that caused the plague), atchoo, atchoo we all fall dead.
Rubadubdub three men in a tub and who do you think they be,
The butcher, the baker, the candlestick maker
Turn 'em out, naves all 3. (A lovely little tryst between 3 gay men)
Georgie Peorgie pudding and pie,
kissed the girls and made them cry.
When the boys came out to play,
Georgie Peorgie ran away. (A child molester)
I could go on and on. And I didn't mention the wonderful stories meant to scare kids into using there manners. The Germans did the best job of those.
Read The Brothers Grimm in the original.
PS Mom - We got that Georgie Porgie took a hell of a beating from the boys, for messing with their girls.
21 Oct 2007, 11:43 am
21 Oct 2007, 11:48 am
21 Oct 2007, 11:49 am
21 Oct 2007, 11:57 am
cosmiccat wrote:
Speaking of "Halloween" check this out:
ESP
ESP
Ohmygawd.
NOT IN A MILLION YEARS. Noooo, nononono.
(GhostHunters did a segment on that place a week or two ago, by the way. Got an apparition on tape. They say.)
When the kid was little we went to a haunted house over on Frat Row in the town where I went to grad school. Entrails "being pulled out of the screaming guys's stomach", etc., etc., etc. She was fine with it at 7 years old, I was losing my mind. She was like "mom, it's just Chicken Entrails" and "look, mom, there's a guy behind that curtain and he's going to jump out at people and go boo!" and he did.
She did agree with me, though, when the guy revved up the chainsaw and jumped out from behind the building that it was time to leave. Quickly.
21 Oct 2007, 11:59 am
21 Oct 2007, 12:02 pm
Page 352 of 1007 [ 16106 posts ]
Go to page Previous 1 ... 349, 350, 351, 352, 353, 354, 355 ... 1007 Next
| Similar Topics | |
|---|---|
| Feeling lonely and hopeless |
04 Jan 2025, 5:47 pm |
| The Growing Distance: Feeling Separate |
04 Feb 2025, 12:08 am |
| Holiday gatherings and feeling out of sorts |
27 Dec 2024, 11:43 am |
| Did anyone "lose abilities" after trauma. Feeling like it :( |
04 Jan 2025, 10:05 am |
