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08 Jan 2008, 11:29 am

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...I got so upset and shaking last night writing and thinking about all that stuff again, I broke a mortar and pestle....


It's hard to look at all of that "stuff" and not be affected by it. It is good that you are affected by it. To know the injustice in it. To be frustrated by "things as they are" because you see that they aren't far from "things as they've been". Although I must point out, as you seem to have forgotten, that your feelings are not possible - you were born without empathy. Please sit in a corner. Bad Postie.

It is good that you have learned to evaluate life by the views of your own eyes, by the touch of your own hands , by the tread of your own feet, according to your own experience - and not by the beliefs and dictates of society. Although I must point out, as you seem not aware, that you have learned wrong answers through your wrong perception - yellow is green, and white is black. Please sit in a corner. Bad Postie.

And it appears to me that you and Zanne would just prefer to be left alone, living life as you choose, and not as you have been told good boys and girls should. Please sit in a corner. Bad. Very bad.



...or, perhaps...



....perhaps the best we can do is honor who we are and live that as honestly as possible - whether or not we appear odd or different, strange, eccentric, and whether or not our talents, prodigy, and gifts are overlooked.

NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!! !! !

(Bad Chuck sits himself in a corner).

We're gonna run out of corners pretty quick here...


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08 Jan 2008, 11:36 am

Chuck wrote:
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...I got so upset and shaking last night writing and thinking about all that stuff again, I broke a mortar and pestle....


It's hard to look at all of that "stuff" and not be affected by it. It is good that you are affected by it. To know the injustice in it. To be frustrated by "things as they are" because you see that they aren't far from "things as they've been". Although I must point out, as you seem to have forgotten, that your feelings are not possible - you were born without empathy. Please sit in a corner. Bad Postie.

It is good that you have learned to evaluate life by the views of your own eyes, by the touch of your own hands , by the tread of your own feet, according to your own experience - and not by the beliefs and dictates of society. Although I must point out, as you seem not aware, that you have learned wrong answers through your wrong perception - yellow is green, and white is black. Please sit in a corner. Bad Postie.

And it appears to me that you and Zanne would just prefer to be left alone, living life as you choose, and not as you have been told good boys and girls should. Please sit in a corner. Bad. Very bad.



...or, perhaps...



....perhaps the best we can do is honor who we are and live that as honestly as possible - whether or not we appear odd or different, strange, eccentric, and whether or not our talents, prodigy, and gifts are overlooked.

NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!! !! !

(Bad Chuck sits himself in a corner).


I don't care if they think I'm bad or it upsets them. I'm the only one who has to live with me. (Well, there's dh, but he can leave me while I'm still stuck with me.) Therefore, I am going to make sure I am happy and to hell with them. If I'm not hurting them, they have no say.

There are two options in my mind and these are what I live by:

1) I will life my way, not hurt anyone, and be happy.
2) I will kill myself because I'm not going to live unhappy.

I made this decision when I was 8 years old and I've kept it ever since. Honestly, the masses don't really scare me because I spent 18 years with my Sociopath mother who tried to drown my three brothers before I was born. I have yet to meet anyone who has anything on her. I handled her from the time I was aware that something was seriously wrong with her (when I was four) so if I can't handle these idiots at 48 then I need help beyond what they can give me anyway. They are just scared while she is just plain scary. There you go.

I guess they'll have to think I'm bad and deal with it.


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08 Jan 2008, 1:00 pm

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We're gonna run out of corners pretty quick here...

I disagree... as Richie and I will be happy to visualise n-Cubes, with sufficiently large n, for everyone to have a corner to themselves. A simple hypercube can supply sixteen corners, or eight, if no one wants to share an edge.
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I suspect that a hepteract would suffice.


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08 Jan 2008, 1:10 pm

lau wrote:
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We're gonna run out of corners pretty quick here...

I disagree... as Richie and I will be happy to visualise n-Cubes, with sufficiently large n, for everyone to have a corner to themselves. A simple hypercube can supply sixteen corners, or eight, if no one wants to share an edge.
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I suspect that a hepteract would suffice.


Yeah ok you have all the corners covered and speaking of cover..I have dibs on the dunce cap.

Oooooooo nice spinning shiny lau. Can I play with it in the corner? I don't mind edges, I've been standing on the edge as long as I can remember.


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08 Jan 2008, 2:28 pm

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Well, I was an Aspie single parent, raising an aspie child, with no help, clueless that I had it, as well as the fact that my daughter had it. And we survived, and it didn't cost billions of dollars. So there, EXPERTS OUT THERE! :)



Same. Did you ever get yours to take the trash out without having to have a 20 minute philosophical discussion on the implications of forced labor?



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08 Jan 2008, 2:48 pm

Ok. Having gone to bed after supper last night with a screaming sinus headache from the mold released by the flooded office and stress from keeping certain persons wearing high-heels who insisted in standing in puddle of water with the live surge protector and wanting to plug things in right away....

1) It's never a bad thing to know how to handle a rifle or a sidearm. One even small hint of a cattle-car on the siding and I'll be off to the hills. There are a number of good places where one could live a solid life without worrying about being culled. The corollary of that is "over my dead body" will you lay a hand on my kid or any offspring she may ever choose to have. Fill in the blanks as you see fit.

2) If you run out of corners you can come to my imaginary ... let's call it a yurt. There's another name for it, which I can't remember this morning. Ancient dwelling quarters of Celtic peoples. Besides "round house". In the other place, not too far from the ruined tower in the meadow. There's room for a lot of people, it's warm, and it's pleasant in there.

3) Yes, the eugenics thing has been tried before. It was very popular in this country, as in many, at the turn of the century (the previous one). Pop culture took it up. Reading the popular literature from that era is a little bit...unsettling. My parents were raised in that culture and my dad took it quite to heart. I suspect that's one of the reasons our household always had a "they musn't find out" aura floating through it when I was young. Musn't find out about the institutionalized uncles (one of whom was surely aspie - a highly talented artist who eventually "broke", the other, most likely autie). And the kid who was a bit fond of twirling with multi-colored rags in her hands to see how they'd flutter in the breeze.... Odd thing in that being, father was no doubt an aspie himself and probably never knew.

4) Even if there were two parents in the family, that doesn't mean we were raised by two. The last century saw a lot of families where daddy wasn't home most of the time. I'm not sure our parents had it "better" in dealing with us than we single parents do. If anything, at least there's only the kid to have to deal with in terms of personal interactions and carrying whatever it is they want from us. We didn't have to "freshen up and make sure the roast was ready" when the other adult was due home from work.

Good luck on the test. Sorry about the funeral - I never go to those. They are for the living. The dead are already gone.

Chuck - yeah, on the doctor hunt. It's insane. We went through several iterations of that with the kid. "Well, let's check her thyroid levels" "Gee, you mean the fact that they've been normal on the last FOUR tests that have been ordered is unusual" followed by "Oh? They've been checked already? Huh. How about that...."

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08 Jan 2008, 3:01 pm

lau wrote:
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We're gonna run out of corners pretty quick here...

I disagree... as Richie and I will be happy to visualise n-Cubes, with sufficiently large n, for everyone to have a corner to themselves. A simple hypercube can supply sixteen corners, or eight, if no one wants to share an edge.
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I suspect that a hepteract would suffice.


I love that. I could sit and watch that for hours. Lau always has the greatest visuals.


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08 Jan 2008, 3:02 pm

Nan wrote:
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Well, I was an Aspie single parent, raising an aspie child, with no help, clueless that I had it, as well as the fact that my daughter had it. And we survived, and it didn't cost billions of dollars. So there, EXPERTS OUT THERE! :)



Same. Did you ever get yours to take the trash out without having to have a 20 minute philosophical discussion on the implications of forced labor?


Were you MY mother???? 8O 8O 8O


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08 Jan 2008, 3:08 pm

ZanneMarie wrote:
Nan wrote:
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Well, I was an Aspie single parent, raising an aspie child, with no help, clueless that I had it, as well as the fact that my daughter had it. And we survived, and it didn't cost billions of dollars. So there, EXPERTS OUT THERE! :)



Same. Did you ever get yours to take the trash out without having to have a 20 minute philosophical discussion on the implications of forced labor?


Were you MY mother???? 8O 8O 8O


My memory is bad these days, but I think I woulda remembered two bouts of labor and delivery. Sorry... but you can come to the family reunion in my roundhouse anyway. I'll take notes when it comes time for someone to be convinced to take the trash out.



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08 Jan 2008, 3:13 pm

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Ok. Having gone to bed after supper last night with a screaming sinus headache from the mold released by the flooded office and stress from keeping certain persons wearing high-heels who insisted in standing in puddle of water with the live surge protector and wanting to plug things in right away....

1) It's never a bad thing to know how to handle a rifle or a sidearm. One even small hint of a cattle-car on the siding and I'll be off to the hills. There are a number of good places where one could live a solid life without worrying about being culled. The corollary of that is "over my dead body" will you lay a hand on my kid or any offspring she may ever choose to have. Fill in the blanks as you see fit.

2) If you run out of corners you can come to my imaginary ... let's call it a yurt. There's another name for it, which I can't remember this morning. Ancient dwelling quarters of Celtic peoples. Besides "round house". In the other place, not too far from the ruined tower in the meadow. There's room for a lot of people, it's warm, and it's pleasant in there.

3) Yes, the eugenics thing has been tried before. It was very popular in this country, as in many, at the turn of the century (the previous one). Pop culture took it up. Reading the popular literature from that era is a little bit...unsettling. My parents were raised in that culture and my dad took it quite to heart. I suspect that's one of the reasons our household always had a "they musn't find out" aura floating through it when I was young. Musn't find out about the institutionalized uncles (one of whom was surely aspie - a highly talented artist who eventually "broke", the other, most likely autie). And the kid who was a bit fond of twirling with multi-colored rags in her hands to see how they'd flutter in the breeze.... Odd thing in that being, father was no doubt an aspie himself and probably never knew.

4) Even if there were two parents in the family, that doesn't mean we were raised by two. The last century saw a lot of families where daddy wasn't home most of the time. I'm not sure our parents had it "better" in dealing with us than we single parents do. If anything, at least there's only the kid to have to deal with in terms of personal interactions and carrying whatever it is they want from us. We didn't have to "freshen up and make sure the roast was ready" when the other adult was due home from work.

Good luck on the test. Sorry about the funeral - I never go to those. They are for the living. The dead are already gone.

Postie - share.

Seeyas



I had pictures in my Favorites of course

Yurt Pictures

Uzbek Yurts

Yurts and Dream Quilts

Of course my Aspie character stayed in one and she was a crack shot. This was before I thought I was one! I just considered it something she should know!


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08 Jan 2008, 3:16 pm

One Yurt, location, my back yard. Snow is all gone here, we hit a record temperature.
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08 Jan 2008, 3:18 pm

[quote="ZanneMarie
I love that. I could sit and watch that for hours. Lau always has the greatest visuals.[/quote]


yeah it's a very beautiful one ! !
(i feel like i do not have a lot of variation of vocabulary, but well i really do like it :-) )

and thanks all for your encouragements, not sure if i'll make it though cause really have no time, now arrived at my parent-in-law for being claser to the church for tomorrow's funeral (i'll think about you chuck, maybe when i'm reading a text for all this people :-o)
cause my daughter is also taking up my time in wanting to change school right now. she wants to go to an artschool and we already visited one but they didn't have any vacancy for that particular class



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08 Jan 2008, 3:36 pm

lau wrote:
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We're gonna run out of corners pretty quick here...

I disagree... as Richie and I will be happy to visualise n-Cubes, with sufficiently large n, for everyone to have a corner to themselves. A simple hypercube can supply sixteen corners, or eight, if no one wants to share an edge.
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I suspect that a hepteract would suffice.

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Here if you want to put a little spin on things... These have thicker edges..
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This would make an interesting version of Compiz or Beryl....


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08 Jan 2008, 3:42 pm

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"Well, let's check her thyroid levels" "Gee, you mean the fact that they've been normal on the last FOUR tests that have been ordered is unusual" followed by "Oh? They've been checked already? Huh. How about that...."

Postie - share.

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It works the other way too, high white blood cell count for years and never a worry, hardly a nod. I'm sitting there with my dunce hat on thinking it's nothing. It wasn't.

Share? What's that? Remember I don't play well with others. Got any tin foil? We could get inventive with tin foil dunce caps. Even if we don't get inventive we could wrap Chuck in it. Tis true, a little chuck roast is as follows, some dry onion soup mix sprinkled on both side and sealed in tin foil in a very slow oven..umm um good. Melts in your mouth, don't need silver ware it falls apart. Now I don't know if this chuck is all the tender, but fall apart...I think we could manage to nudge em in that direction. Tender? Humm football bats? (shhh he's never seen a game he'll never know it's coming.)


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08 Jan 2008, 5:56 pm

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"Well, let's check her thyroid levels" "Gee, you mean the fact that they've been normal on the last FOUR tests that have been ordered is unusual" followed by "Oh? They've been checked already? Huh. How about that...."

Postie - share.

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It works the other way too, high white blood cell count for years and never a worry, hardly a nod. I'm sitting there with my dunce hat on thinking it's nothing. It wasn't.


Well, we did go that route a number of times as well. "scuse me doc, but the kid is sick. Her eyes look wrong, she's got dark circles, and her breath smells like strep. She's going to have a really high fever in a few hours. Ive seen this happen a dozen times now. We need meds now for strep." "No, she looks fine to me, just get her in the sun more." "Doc, making her sit in the sun brings on flu-like symptoms. We can't do that. Plus, she burns in about 10 minutes even with sunscreen. The issue is STREP here, doc." "She hasn't got strep." Four hours later on the phone "Doc, she's got a 105F fever and her throat is screaming red. She smells like she's got strep. I've already given her tylenol and had her in a tepid bath and I can't get the fever down." "Well, bring her back into the office tomorrow. If the fever goes any higher take her to the emergency room." Two hours later at the emergency room "She's got strep and we need to put ice packs on her. Why didn't you tell your doctor you thought she had strep?".... And then there's the - "scuse me, doc, but we've seen a dozen specialists and they all say something's going on but that whatever it is isn't in their area. Her ANA levels are through the roof. She hurts and has tender muscles/joints/tendons that swell for no apparent reason. Her blood pressure is unstable. She can't sweat - no, she cannot sweat at all, not even a little, doc - and we need to know what's going on." followed by "Huh. Has she seen a rheumatologist? Maybe it's Lupus" and "We've seen three of those, doc. They all tested and said it's not Lupus." followed by "Well, let's test her for lupus just in case." etc., etc., etc.

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Share? What's that? Remember I don't play well with others. [BS] Got any tin foil? We could get inventive with tin foil dunce caps. Even if we don't get inventive we could wrap Chuck in it. Tis true, a little chuck roast is as follows, some dry onion soup mix sprinkled on both side and sealed in tin foil in a very slow oven..umm um good. Melts in your mouth, don't need silver ware it falls apart. Now I don't know if this chuck is all the tender, but fall apart...I think we could manage to nudge em in that direction. Tender? Humm football bats? (shhh he's never seen a game he'll never know it's coming.)
I thought you had his back? Maybe you meant to barbeque? 8O 8O 8O 8O



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08 Jan 2008, 8:32 pm

He didn't say why he had his back. It could be to barbeque.

Was that your daughter, Nan? I had many of the same issues. Spiking fevers. Ice baths in the hospital. Strep after they took my tonsils out. Scarlet fever. I was a mess as a kid.


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