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southpawcannon
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29 Jun 2010, 9:30 pm

Hey everyone. I'm a 29 and 350-something day old(ha, looking forward to turning 30, can't you tell?) guy who works a full-time job in a sports medicine field and has been back to school to work towards my goal of attending medical school. I'm not a bad-looking guy, try to take care of myself physically, so it would appear I 'have it going' so to speak. Some months back I gave a 'what if' consideration for a second to me having Asperger's, but just let it go and thought something else was going on. But, last night, while at the bookstore studying, I thought I'd take a look in the Psych section(where this book SHOULDN'T be being it's a neuro disorder) and came across a book titled 'Aspergers on the Job.'

First book I've seen regarding Asperger's. So, my curiosity leads me to open the book and read through a little. Well, the more I read, the more I began to think to myself 'wow...maybe this explains everything' and sigh of relief came over me. For years, you see, I've dealt with anxiety and depression. Things have gotten progressively worse while in the real world in regards to that and other things. A couple of my friends have called me 'socially awkward,' a phrase I reeeeeally hate because it's just f***king insulting really, IMO, but I suppose it can be and is perhaps true. I've been told I don't value myself or try to find value of myself in what others think, I have low self-esteem, etc. None of which I really think is true now. I don't have difficulty socially all the time...there are times that when things are structured, the focus isn't on me, or the conversation is brief, I do ok. When I try to fake the whole 'putting on a smile and fitting in' thing,, it seems to take so much energy out of me. I get exhausted very quickly and have a difficult time keeping things going, get distracted easily from a conversation, whether it's my own thoughts or there are lights flickering, music playing, other people talking, cars driving, etc, etc. I tend to shut down easily, especially emotionally, and have a very difficult time expressing my feelings. One of the things the book mentioned was the expression one gives not matching how one feels. Definitely. I focus intensely on projects, hate unpredicatability i.e. why I have never been able to have any type of relationship because I don't understand what to do next or what's supposed to happen/not happen, trouble reading body language and cues, and eye contact issues as well. If a task isn't challenging enough, I get pretty bored. As the book put it, I fall into what's called a 'pattern thinker.' I overanalyze way too much. I could go on, but those are many of the descriptions the author and some of the people she interviewed had told of in the book. I shared this with one friend whom I felt wouldn't judge me on this, although she's far away, and she is being really nice and understanding of it. I shared the book with my aunt, the person in my family I feel I'm closest to at this point, and highlighted the common characteristics I share with those who gave their accounts in the book. It's a shame that a)insurance is very picky and more often than not it doesn't cover for any diagnostics. I have BC/BS. I figured they at least would, but no. And b) that this again is often categorized as a 'mental health' issue when it needs to be understood as neurological.

My huge obstacles are social settings and even moreso, relationships. I have a hard time connecting with others. I have failed everytime in a dating situation. A few weeks in and that's all. Ends in me feeling confused and very depressed, desiring less and less to give it another shot. While I desire to date, have a relationship, the idea of love, have sex and enjoy it, etc, etc, it has pretty much always made me feel very uncomfortable and just feels awkward.

Anyhow, that's my story. I would love to hear your feedback on if any of this is what you've gone through and what you've done to manage it in order to have a more 'normal' life.

Sthpaw



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30 Jun 2010, 3:45 am

hello, Southpawcannon :)
from your description, i'd have to say you are still higher-functioning than me. IOW your problems are surmountable, IMHO.



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30 Jun 2010, 7:05 am

A warm welcome to WrongPlanet. :)


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30 Jun 2010, 7:06 am

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30 Jun 2010, 9:44 am

Welcome, southpawcannon, to the WP neighborhood.


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03 Jul 2010, 1:56 pm

One of the previous five replies to your post indicated a listening ear, and communicated encouragement. The other four "replies" blocked your conversational ball from even getting to their side of the net. Conversations are successful when the "ball" goes back and forth, with each side offering something to the conversation and receiving something from it.

Autism/Asperger's is a whole new world for me, one that I'm investigating to learn about my failed marriage. Your looking into it for yourself indicates to me that you're well on your way to learning coping strategies, and will eventually build satisfying social relationships. From my NT position, I would advise you to be upfront with people about differing neurological abilities in everyone, and you may find someone willing to invest the time and effort required to uncover the jewel you are, and learn together how to get on in life.

You sound like you do, indeed, have a lot going for you. Keep on learning and growing!



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03 Jul 2010, 5:19 pm

Thanx for sharing all you did, Southpaw, I can relate to so much you said. 47, and just figured
out, after decades of being called crazy,"too sensitive" etc. that I most likely have Asperger's.
Relieved, yet sad, so many years of self- doubt, self-loathing, low self-esteem, :( because I didn't
know the real reason I was the way I was. Now I do, and I'm learning slowly how to accept and
love who I am even when no one else seems to want to be around.



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04 Jul 2010, 11:11 am

DonnaMyst wrote:
One of the previous five replies to your post indicated a listening ear, and communicated encouragement. The other four "replies" blocked your conversational ball from even getting to their side of the net. Conversations are successful when the "ball" goes back and forth, with each side offering something to the conversation and receiving something from it.

Autism/Asperger's is a whole new world for me, one that I'm investigating to learn about my failed marriage. Your looking into it for yourself indicates to me that you're well on your way to learning coping strategies, and will eventually build satisfying social relationships. From my NT position, I would advise you to be upfront with people about differing neurological abilities in everyone, and you may find someone willing to invest the time and effort required to uncover the jewel you are, and learn together how to get on in life.

You sound like you do, indeed, have a lot going for you. Keep on learning and growing!


Thanks for your response. I posted with a story and a question or leaving the table open for comments, but, as you said, the ball was blocked and I got just a welcome. Appreciated, but I'm a very pro-active person and want to do something about it, and was hoping those people would provide feedback regarding my post or relate to my post with their own experience. So, again, thanks for sharing a little bit more. I'm sorry your marriage failed. If you don't mind me asking, did ASD come up in conversation or diagnosis during your marriage or is it something you are looking at it in retrospect? Do you still communicate with this person? I hope things do work out for you.

A side note...one thing I'm curious to know is are there any ASDs you are aware of who had alcoholism in the family also? Being the child of an alcoholic I will attest that some of my problems can be connected with that, but maybe having AS all along and the environment I grew up in only exacerbated some of the symptoms as I got into my teens and became more aware of what was happening? I dunno.



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04 Jul 2010, 11:15 am

anjie wrote:
Thanx for sharing all you did, Southpaw, I can relate to so much you said. 47, and just figured
out, after decades of being called crazy,"too sensitive" etc. that I most likely have Asperger's.
Relieved, yet sad, so many years of self- doubt, self-loathing, low self-esteem, :( because I didn't
know the real reason I was the way I was. Now I do, and I'm learning slowly how to accept and
love who I am even when no one else seems to want to be around.


I echo what I said to the above poster in thanking you for providing some feedback as opposed to just saying 'welcome' when I wrote here for that reason. I'm sorry you are looking back and thinking 'what if I didn't feel/do the way I did b/c had the appropriate care' how things could have been different for you up to this point. Well, you realized it still and you have several years of life to live. Yes, it will be hard, but I guess the bet way to see it is you have two choices: to quit or keep living. You have this one life to live and you can still make the most of it, so keep living and keep working at it.



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04 Jul 2010, 10:21 pm

Hi Southpawcannon,

Thanks for your reply:

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Thanks for your response. I posted with a story and a question or leaving the table open for comments, but, as you said, the ball was blocked and I got just a welcome. Appreciated, but I'm a very pro-active person and want to do something about it, and was hoping those people would provide feedback regarding my post or relate to my post with their own experience. So, again, thanks for sharing a little bit more. I'm sorry your marriage failed. If you don't mind me asking, did ASD come up in conversation or diagnosis during your marriage or is it something you are looking at it in retrospect? Do you still communicate with this person? I hope things do work out for you.

A side note...one thing I'm curious to know is are there any ASDs you are aware of who had alcoholism in the family also? Being the child of an alcoholic I will attest that some of my problems can be connected with that, but maybe having AS all along and the environment I grew up in only exacerbated some of the symptoms as I got into my teens and became more aware of what was happening? I dunno.



To the question in your first paragraph about whether ASD came up, here is a copy of my WrongPlanet introduction as an explanation:

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Less then forty-eight hours ago, puzzle pieces that have been flitting about in my mind for years suddenly floated down and fit themselves together spelling Aspergers Syndrome for my ex-husband. And it is totally responsible for the "ex-ness" of him. Had I known those many years ago that he really did love me, but had to express it differently, I never would have left. My head is spinning with all the big and little bits of recognition of signs and symptoms he displayed all his life. Who knew? Today, he's in a hospital bed in the dining room of the house where we raised the kids, the same kids who are now his end-of-life caregivers. He's dying of pancreatic cancer. Yesterday, I asked the kids (they're in their thirties) to excuse us for a few minutes because I had a thing to say to their dad. He was able to turn his head toward me, and almost focus on my face, just above his. I spoke, asked and gave forgiveness, and told him I'd learned some things over the years, and now knew he'd done the best he could, and really had loved me. I told him if I'd known that, I never would have left, and I was so sorry things turned out the way they did. One tear appeared at the corner of his eye. So, I asked for a kiss, and got a little pucker - the best he could do, and we had made our peace. In the near future, I'll fill the kids in, his parents, and his brother and sister, none of whom show similar signs. And they will also come to know him better, and love him more.


He died a week later, our "chat" pretty much the last thing he was able to be part of. Our children were with him, holding his hands, and he passed peacefully.

As to your second question regarding alcoholism, my ex-husband also had that on his plate. I can't imagine being able to sort out which problem was because of which issue. However, I also, am a child of an alcoholic, and believe the coping skills I grew up with came in pretty handy in my marriage. It might beg the question, though - did I choose him because I had the skills to cope?

I will say, though, that some of the most intelligent people I've ever known are alcoholics. I think they might not be able to "table" thoughts about the difficulties of life like the rest of us can. And so they find a way to numb the pain. My dad was a wonderful person in so many ways, yet his inability to change or prevent some life issues, caused him to hide from them in alcohol, dulling the pain he couldn't escape.

These are tangled puzzles we're all playing with. Hope you get yours figured out, too.