AS or HFA?????

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I dont think Trevor (age 6) has just ADHD. Here is what we are going thru:

He is very moody.

He over reacts to everything if we tell him no on something he goes into a rage throwing himself on the floor or against the wall yelling and screaming and saying mean things, or he will begin to throw things around. Everything and anything will start a fit.

Everything is an argument! I mean everything with everyone!

He is smelling everything, even if he touches something he has to smell his hands. This is anywhere we are.

He constantly plays in his hair and sucks his tounge (sp?).

He gets ingrossed in cartoons and has to watch the same ones every morning or he gets really upset!

He can not tie his shoes no matter how many times we show him (this may be normal kid though).

He was never flushing the toilet, so we drew him a cartoon with a him coming in going potty then flushing the toilet and going back to play. Now he always flushes the toilet. Seems to respond to visual more than verbal.

You can tell him something a million times and he just wont get it.

When we put him on time out it will be for 5 minutes starting when he is quiet. He will and has carried on for hours screaming that he will be there forever and ever, no matter how many times we tell him when he is quiet he can get up he carried on for hours.

He has trouble with eye contact and also when he is in trouble he laughs or smiles like he does not care.

He can read and reads well. He can add small numbers. He is not stupid, he is actually very smart. Sometimes he sounds so intellegent and others he just seems out there, in his own world. Heplayes better with younger children than he does older or of his own age.

He does have trouble expressing himself and if he cant get his point across he sometimes will push or shove his brothers and sisters.

I am at a loss, trying to get in with a DR but wondering if anyone has any ideas.

hi you described a lot of aspie behaviour but you describe it in a very third person way, ie you havent regurgitated a book and want confirmation here it is your own observations which do sound spectrum to me, the eye contact bit is a give away.

you need to go to someone who is an aspie specialist or aspie aware i dont know what country you are in but it is misse d alot and sometimes mistaken for adhd, schizo, etc.

he sound slike my 4.5 yer old with what you descibe.

The way you described everything, he sounds like an Aspie to me.

When I was a kid I could not make eye contact with even a picture of
a person face. If the tv zoomed in on a face I would downcast my eyes.
I was talking to a lady on another forum about lego therapy. Basically
you use toys to motivate the kid. You play with lego's some then you
teach the kid social skills. The kid wants to keep playing lego's so he
suffers the social skill training so he can get back to the lego's(are what
ever toy he is hooked on).

i would not agree, while it may work for you......it will soon be picked up by an aspie as manipulation and rejected along with the "teacher/enforcer"
dont ever try to manipulate and aspie kid............interaction is important but forcing interaction is like forcing a normal kid to kiss granny every 5 minute, they hate this , hell we all did.

No I'm 36 nothing will work for me

http://www.cairn-site.com/documents/abs ... eat13.html

I'll have to agree also. Some of behaviour might come form either ADHD or Austims Spectrum.

I don't know what to think with the scripts (tying shoes, bathroom). I'm thinking he simply didn't remember to flush the toilet. When you placed to visual aid in the bathroom, he was reminded. Think of it this way, how many times have you forget to NOT flush the toilet, even though you had told yourself NOT to 10 seconds prior.

I remember getting in trouble once. I was told I couldn't ride my bike somewhere. Well, I didn't realize that I wasn't ALLOWED to. If this is the case for you, try being more literal (i.e. use "not allowed" instead of "can't") and provide the reason behind your statement.



I hope these are things that don't have to be fixed. I personally think that the socializing process goes a little too far in defining what is appropriate behaviour. Any fans of Huck Finn here?

Last edited by eet_1024 on 18 Jul 2006, 9:11 am, edited 1 time in total.

ok im not sure if what you said and what th elink said are the same and i am aspie, im 34...but i dont want to argue but i think that aocial akilsl training is fine and leggo may be a good way to introduce this......but to manipulate a kid to have a social interaction and use leggo as a sort of bait, will work until the kid figures it out.....dont ever try to manipulate an aspie.

Yeah your right they were alot less manipulative in that study. They basically
let the kids play lego's together. But I've seen on tv how lego's were used more
manipulatively (like you say maybe not good for aspies).

Hi Trevorsmom,first of all Im sorry that you are going through this,I see my sis go through alot of what you do.My nephew argues,never flushes ,always plays with his hair,he chews his clothes and when he doesn take his meds argues everything touches everything,moves around constantly and is a very different child.He is weet and very smart but without his meds she would never go anywhere with him and would have a really hard time coping.I am by no means a doc,but clearly it sounds like you should take son to see one and I wish you the very best.Sounds like something.Good luck and keep coming back to this forum it will help....you are not alone....Melissa