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16 Oct 2006, 5:20 pm

no great aspie consciousness in Italy. Is here someone who can deny this?.



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16 Oct 2006, 6:23 pm

There is a great aspie consciousness in Italy and his name is paolo.



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16 Oct 2006, 6:42 pm

Since you brought it up, paolo, I would most interested in your impressions. As I've mentioned at various times, I'm very curious about why there are so many people on this site from scandinavia and so few from southern europe. I've never been to europe, so there is much I don't know.

Possible explanations I've heard are that more people in northern europe than southern europe are comfortable enough with the english language to participate in an english language website, or that the mental health community is more aware of asperger's in northern europe, or that there actually are more people with asperger's in northern europe. I would be most interested in any thoughts you have.

By the way, I'm glad you're here. I've spent time with the north american indians, and I understand the importance of elders.


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17 Oct 2006, 5:07 am

In Italy there has been a long censure about psychoanalysis because of fascism and the jewishness of psychoanalysis. When the regime fell in 43-45 psychoanalysis came out with a revenge and occupied a disproportionate space. As for cognitivists they arrived late in a situation of backwardness and sloppyness. There are some good scholars but they are generally isolated and have no grip on the officialdom of psychiatry and medicine. Moreover Italy has been the country where for a certain time (the 70s) madness was proclaimed as an invention of the rulers to emarginate disturbing people, which may have some truth in it but is certainly not the whole truth. In France there is this absurd domination of lacanism. As far as I know Asperger is not even considered as a neurological affection in France's public health service. The damage made by psychoanalys is perduring and serious. The fridge mother theory is stille very much in vogue, Bettelheim continues to be sold and read. The cultural establishment is still aligned on freudism and derivatives.



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17 Oct 2006, 2:18 pm

I had no idea that that was the case. It seems odd, that while most of the sciences are becoming more globally homogenous, that psychology would remain so vastly different between countries.

On second thought it seems less remarkable that the study of the human mind would be viewed more variably between cultures than, say geology or chemistry, and would be more influenced by history. Studying the mind is like trying to squeeze the essence from a handful of pudding.


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They murdered boys in Mississippi. They shot Medgar in the back.
Did you say that wasn't proper? Did you march out on the track?
You were quiet, just like mice. And now you say that we're not nice.
Well thank you buddy for your advice...
-Malvina