Aspies are not autistic. We are just honest and don't lie.

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Who is better in character,aspies or neurotypicals?
aspes. neurotypicals. neither. both are good. both are bad. 50%  50%  [ 2 ]
aspes. neurotypicals. neither. both are good. both are bad. 50%  50%  [ 2 ]
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21 Jul 2014, 10:20 am

It's actually our better character from the neuro-typicals.
We are so honest that we can't recognize when someone,a so called neuro-typical person,is sending us signals instead of saying plain and loud what their message to us and others is.
And,because of being so honest we don't lie. This is why we don't recognize when others do.
What is your opinion about this reason for so called 'aspies' being treated as kinda sick. To cover for the neuro-typical dishonesty and lies.
Cos we all know that society in general is a dishonest,lying and cheating bunch.
And this is why we don't fit in such a society.
We are actually like little honest children.
We refuse to be dishonest and lying,no matter what.
And this is why they don't like us.
Cos we remind them of what they are really like.
I am not talking about them all.
I am talking about those of them who are the most dishonest and lying.
And it's them that dislike us the most,and treat us like sick. And call us asperger sick.
This situation resembles to what the criminals think of non-criminal people.
That they are suckers...
Answers and opinions welcome from both 'sides'!


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21 Jul 2014, 10:45 am

We are autistic, and there is nothing wrong with that.

I understand your anger. I often feel awful that people will bring up my autism almost like it's an excuse for their lies. Some people act like they do nothing wrong because they assume your autism automatically makes you the one always wrong in every situation. This is problematic because a lot of people are downright mean, and to act like you deserve it somehow is messed up.



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21 Jul 2014, 11:58 am

...but it is definitely not ok to be autistic cos autistic is not normal. it is a neural disease. what i mean is that we are normal and just better in character than the so called neuro typicals,and if you want to call such a state of character normal,it's your right,but the science thinks it is wrong state of the mind or whatever.
so i agree that we aspies may call this character of ours austism and aspergers and that we think that it is ok,but no neuro typical person thinks so,and especially not the neurologists.
so i suggest you stop calling yourself and the rest of us patients with autism. and especially stop treating the common meaning of the word autism as of nothing wrong.
i have a grandson who has real auism and in his 3 years and 4 months life he hasnt spoken yet and no toilet training and other ugly stuff. this is autism and it is definitely not ok. no no no. but we who are so called aspies,master everything except that we don't understand and i would say don't agree with 'social ques',that we consider just dirty.
i myself now understand them but i just don't want to play by their dishonest lying rules. no.no.no.


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21 Jul 2014, 12:06 pm

Autism is like POSH icecream it comes in many flavours, AS happens to be one cluster of flavours.

There is nothing wrong with be autistic, in the same way there is noting wrong with being white / black / asian. Try to accept who and what you are, trust me you will feel better for it when you accept yourself.

We talk in society about accepting others, I think that self acceptance is more important than people think.


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21 Jul 2014, 12:31 pm

i have aspergers and if you read with full attention my second letter here you will understand that i accept myself as normal and them the or others as dishonest liars. so i am ok with aspergers' name but not what he neurologist and the rest think it is. a diesease.
but my grandson who has autism in not normal by any standards and neither i nor my son and his wife are fooling ourselves that it is like being black or red among whites. black and yellow and red people are normal,just other races from whites but autism is not normal by any standard and i wont have itwhat you do,to treat yourself as normal having autism. but if you can function in their society you are kinda normal. my grandson cant function in normal society of children so he is definitely not normal. as yet. cos there are people who have been treated from autism and we i mean i and my son are working on it. autistic people have too much mercury in their brains their immunity is not ok and their gastrointestinal truct is not good. leaky gut and lack of friendly bacteria in it. so the treatment is concentrated on getting the mercury out of the brain,mercury from vaccines,and giving the body the best of nutrition and the result will come pretty soon maybe in a year of time.
autism is disease.
aspergers is being honest and truthful.


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21 Jul 2014, 12:38 pm

tsahpina wrote:
...but it is definitely not ok to be autistic cos autistic is not normal. it is a neural disease. what i mean is that we are normal and just better in character than the so called neuro typicals,and if you want to call such a state of character normal,it's your right,but the science thinks it is wrong state of the mind or whatever.
so i agree that we aspies may call this character of ours austism and aspergers and that we think that it is ok,but no neuro typical person thinks so,and especially not the neurologists.
so i suggest you stop calling yourself and the rest of us patients with autism. and especially stop treating the common meaning of the word autism as of nothing wrong.
i have a grandson who has real auism and in his 3 years and 4 months life he hasnt spoken yet and no toilet training and other ugly stuff. this is autism and it is definitely not ok. no no no. but we who are so called aspies,master everything except that we don't understand and i would say don't agree with 'social ques',that we consider just dirty.
i myself now understand them but i just don't want to play by their dishonest lying rules. no.no.no.


This is my fault. When I said "We are autistic, and there is nothing wrong with that", I meant we shouldn't be shunned from society. I understand the science behind it, and yes, it is not "normal" development. I mean we shouldn't be ashamed, and NTs sometimes make us feel like we are the bad people when we just want to be honest.

Asperger's Syndrome is "real" autism. To suggest it isn't is false. However, some of us are indeed higher functioning. I don't know about you, but I have way more issues than just not reading social ques. I personally have not mastered anything, and my intelligence comes off as arrogant offline. What would be considered special interests here often bores "normal" people, and causes me to be shunned for essentially knowing too much information about topics that are considered mundane.

I actually do understand a lot about humans through psychology and observation. However, I still don't know enough to come across as "normal". I don't like to play by society's rules, either. I find they have too many exceptions and are often based on really stupid, outdated ideas.



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21 Jul 2014, 12:46 pm

tsahpina wrote:
i have aspergers and if you read with full attention my second letter here you will understand that i accept myself as normal and them the or others as dishonest liars. so i am ok with aspergers' name but not what he neurologist and the rest think it is. a diesease.
but my grandson who has autism in not normal by any standards and neither i nor my son and his wife are fooling ourselves that it is like being black or red among whites. black and yellow and red people are normal,just other races from whites but autism is not normal by any standard and i wont have itwhat you do,to treat yourself as normal having autism. but if you can function in their society you are kinda normal. my grandson cant function in normal society of children so he is definitely not normal. as yet. cos there are people who have been treated from autism and we i mean i and my son are working on it. autistic people have too much mercury in their brains their immunity is not ok and their gastrointestinal truct is not good. leaky gut and lack of friendly bacteria in it. so the treatment is concentrated on getting the mercury out of the brain,mercury from vaccines,and giving the body the best of nutrition and the result will come pretty soon maybe in a year of time.
autism is disease.
aspergers is being honest and truthful.


Aspergers is autism, though. Someone having worse autistic traits doesn't mean we aren't also autistic. You want to think we are normal, but "real" autistic people aren't. Well, all of us aren't normal, including people with AS. That doesn't mean we shouldn't accept ourselves, or allow society to abuse and discriminate because of autism. This is usually what is fought against. Not that we are just like NT people, but we aren't and that shouldn't mean we get abusive treatment.

Anyways, you seem like a nice person. I don't know, I don't want to be confrontational. Mercury and leaky gut has nothing to do with autism. There is no medicine to treat autism, especially when it comes to homeopathy.

Autism is a disease (although I still prefer disorder because I get attached to word usage), and Asperger's Syndrome is autism. Therefore, Asperger's Syndrome is also a disease. If AS were simply being honest and truthful, we would simply be known as people who are honest. We have very obvious groups of behavior that has been observed over and over again. We have a developmental disability. I suppose you could also say it's a neurological disability, as well. Or disease. Whatever you'd like. The point is we are not just normal people who happen to be a bit honest. We are exactly like your grandson in terms of the overall problem, however, we all have different levels of functioning.



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21 Jul 2014, 12:52 pm

Not all with Aspergers are completely truthful. I do lie, but not about the same thing most NTs do. However I also have much more in common with traditional autistic diagnosis. There are many other Aspergians who, like me, have sensory and executive function problems, have highly repetitive behaviors, and routines. We are different, but that is ok. If you do not have as many struggles, that is ok. But those that do struggle, and even worse that me, are ok too. And Aspergers is a form of autism.

Also, autism is not from mercury, or vaccines, or a leaky gut. Do not get your information from the false, and thus retracted, Wakefeild study.


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23 Jul 2014, 12:30 pm

anyway thank you for saying i seem a nice person. i seldom hear it. and seldom do i think someone is a nice person.
i dont want to play their game and i pay for it.
and finally i hoped to hear someone agree with me on that we are not abnormal but just much more honest than the rest. we say the politically wrong truths. there is an article on the internet about these truths about human nature. ugly truths. the entees hide them. we dont.


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one woman called me
THE PHENOMENON TSAHPINA!
whatever did she mean?!
anyway i believe the nt's are
THE PHENOMENA CALLED NT'S!! !