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Hello, all. I have recently self-diagnosed aspergers syndrome as I had reached a point where I was either going to accept that I need alcohol and other substances to make it "normally" or I was going to hurt myself, and it was quickly tending towards the latter option. I'm not going to go into details because there is so much to say and I'm only 5 days in. I will say, however, that it's easily one of the most exciting "discoveries" I've made yet. I've always been attracted to the strange and am always very interested and entertained when a "worldview" of mine gets shattered (one of the biggest things I seem to have trouble relating to nt's on..) so you can imagine finding out that I have been wrong about my brain and brains of practically everyone is very exciting. There's moments of "I was RIGHT!" and moments of "s**t was I wrong.." (mostly about other peoples' perception)

I'm very overwhelmed right now with obsessive feelings towards it. I'm trying to understand it and figure out how to incorporate this knowledge into my future. I actually have hope now at least.

I love reading these forums, you are all incredibly interesting, insightful, unique and overall very accepting. I look forward to my new adventure here

I will start my posting career here with a question I suppose. I'm trying to understand empathy better and the misconceptions I'm finding I've always had about it

Do neurotypical males see the flower for what it really is, or for what it societally implies (femininity, fragility)?? Does said NT even get a chance to get warm feelings and enjoy such a beautiful flower before his 'social brain' kicks in and he is filled with shame, then self doubt and subsequently self-denial? Or does the flower automatically get filtered through his social templates and he feels those ways automatically???

ps. I am not saying NT's can't enjoy flowers or choose to be different. I'm generalizing a bit and it's mostly about the social aspect.. Thanks!!

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Welcome to WP Aut2Know. As far as your flower question I don't think many people in general necessarily understand the various significances given to flowers. To many of them I believe it's just a flower and something you give to a girl you like.

Okay, that was perhaps a bad example.

less metaphorical example, based on a question my assessor had asked me:

At work, when things are stressful and a coworker (not even a bosss) makes a lame joke and everybody laughs at it and seems to share some 'moment' is that because they actually react appropriately (subconsciously) and laugh at the joke because, while it's not laughable in the normal sense, it's purpose is actually to build connections and ease tension so their brain "forces" the emotion.. Or do they recognize the lameness of the joke but laugh because "that's what you do" is everyone literally constantly faking these emotions just to get by. I feel I have all of the same emotions just different triggers per se and faking them to not be an outcast is downright exhausting. The more jobs I work the more I realize I want to just show up, make no social gestures whatsoever, do my work and leave. THEN maybe I can go and enjoy time with people I actually relate to, which is very few. Basically a few friends I suspect are also on the spectrum and my family

Welcome to WP!
I love flowers! They're so beautiful!! !! I'm the silly sunshine girl, so whenever you need cheering up, just pm me!

Welcome to Wrong Planet!

As for flowers, I gave flowers to my current GF on our first date in the spring of this year. She found me lying face-down in a school hallway getting harassed by campus security who believed me to be drunk. She intervened and us dating since then is my way of thanking her.

I wouldn't like to get flowers as a present because then I would want to put them back in the ground so they could be happy. I wouldn't like to get chocolates either, since I don't like chocolate anymore.

Hey Aut2Know welcome. I like your username!

So if flowers and chocolates are out, what gifts would you like to get?

Welcome! I hope you enjoy it here.

Hola and welcome

^^^Since we're going to get really off-topic here, I've made a new thread in General Autism Discussion.

The nature of the neurotypical thought process is not something that any official area of study is dealing with at this present time.

You can imagine that other people here share your enthusiastic interest in the amazing phenomenan that is the neurotypical mind.

But the truth is that neurotypical education and social conditioning prevent shared understanding of this topic.

Within every human, austistic or otherwise lies an unarticulated shield which I call the "resistance principle".

This principle describes the natural immunity of the organ that is the human mind, it guards it from excessive influence from others.

However it also makes agreements on the actual nature of the mind almost impossible.
Good luck finding conversational companions for your newly awakened interest.

You'll need it.