Am I welcome at wrong planet?
I have never been diagnosed with aspergers, but I have a history of serious mental illness.
I have since always had huge problems relating to any kind of peer group.
People with aspergers are supposed to have very intense interests and problems relating to other people.
Well I have problems relating to other people but my intense interest is other people.
When I was sixteen I said to myself, if I understand other people I'll be able to make them like me.
Well I am thirty five now happily married, I'm not popular but I'm still trying to decode people.
When I understand other people, their motivations I don't feel so lonely and the sting of reality gets dulled a little.
Any way my intense interest in what goes on in other people's heads only serves to distance me from other people.
But I do believe that only through understanding others can we understand ourselves, so I resist other's attempt to label me as judgmental.
Do I sound like I might fit on this forum.
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I'm a language teacher and amateur language scientist.
I want to develop a theory of language that can benefit people with autism as well as other disorders. I need people to knock ideas off so if you're at all interested please contact me.
I have since always had huge problems relating to any kind of peer group.
People with aspergers are supposed to have very intense interests and problems relating to other people.
Well I have problems relating to other people but my intense interest is other people.
When I was sixteen I said to myself, if I understand other people I'll be able to make them like me.
Well I am thirty five now happily married, I'm not popular but I'm still trying to decode people.
When I understand other people, their motivations I don't feel so lonely and the sting of reality gets dulled a little.
Any way my intense interest in what goes on in other people's heads only serves to distance me from other people.
But I do believe that only through understanding others can we understand ourselves, so I resist other's attempt to label me as judgmental.
Do I sound like I might fit on this forum.
Hi dennis! and welcome! I hear you on trying to understand peoples mind set! There are pros and cons of that in my experience... As for me i am similar to yourself but not entirely the same, despite having a huge fascination in humanity and why the hell they do the things they do to others is something of a mind boggle, and if being on the spectrum and needing answers for almost everything i found this area so far to be an energy sapper! I have looked at it this way for 39 years and am trying to view it in a different way ( will let you know when that happens if ever!) but is very difficult as i think there's more to it than just changing a perception to feel better in ones self.. I think the main thing is to look at yourself first, as long as your not hurting anyone, self acceptance is the first step, because i can almost guarantee trying to spend all your energy fitting in doesn't have a good long term outcome! AS the old saying goes that does hold some truth."People often fear what they dont understand!".. So sometimes and often through no fault of your own people will create false perceptions of other individuals to feel more comfortable within themselves.. Even though people say they do not judge unfortunately it is human nature for them to do just that, and yes it can often be very hurtful as judgment is made before they have given anytime to even get to know you... So if you can, learn to accept who you are and be proud of it, despite the pain and anguish that comes with it.. I personally wouldn't change anything about myself... Having high emotions has some great upsides which i wont get into now, its a real B@tch when it is the other way, but because of this i have spent a life helping others in many different ways.. If those emotions were removed similar to that of a ""Normal"" functioning NT i dont think i would be anything like the person i am today, accepted or not, yes it is a battle as those on the spectrum are a minority and like any minority always falls within many forms of discrimination... But love the person you are, because on the bigger picture every single human being and life force in itself is a universal miracle! and i think that's something to celebrate within itself! So whether you are on the spectrum or not, from from what you have said you seem a caring individual! Embrace that! It isn't as common as you may think and is a gift within itself! and again welcome
Just my view i know many will differ
Thanks for the reply posts, I feel much more comfortable now.
Its interesting someone mentioned "psychology" but actually I don't rate it very much, mostly because the people who work in this same field like philosophy have radically different views about the area that they are engaged in.
You don't see cardiologists with vastly differing opinions about the substance and the structure of the heart but that is precisely the situation of psychologists and philosophers and their "understanding" of the human mind.
Recently, I was watching a lecture with evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins and in it someone asked "why am I me" in other words what makes up my mind why do I as a human behave in the way I do.
Well Dawkins couldn't say anything only admit to his ignorance to the subject in question. This really hit me, as a problem unsolved.
Its my belief that the "normals" are happy with the status quo and because of that not interested in really thoroughly answering the question of what rules our behaviour as a species of animal.
But I'm very interested, because ever since I was young every time I opened my mouth people looked at me weirdly, thought I was the scum of the earth. I'm very well motivated.
Social alienation is incredibly painful, why is it so painful well that is explained very weakly within contemporary pyschology why are some people not accepted within society, this too is very weakly answered.
The vulnerable members of society who simply "can't get along" deserve a much more robust explanation for the human creature.
Any way you can probably already see I'm very serious about my interest in how people think.
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I'm a language teacher and amateur language scientist.
I want to develop a theory of language that can benefit people with autism as well as other disorders. I need people to knock ideas off so if you're at all interested please contact me.
Welcome to WP
Have you been evaluated and they did not think Aspergers or Autism were factors, or have you not been evaluated?
Whether you have Aspergers or not, I can relate to feeling on the outside looking in.
Just yesterday I was a little down because I feel invisible at work socially.
Sometimes though I am just more comfortable with my family or people I know really well.
Really hope we can help you, diagnosis or not
We are all people and all are valuable treasures.
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I'm pretty happy that my current work situation means I don't have to deal with colleagues at work, and the political games that are involved with it. "Normals" might say they don't like office politics, but I'm very skeptical about that. its all part of their MO, their raison detre.
Any way one must happy for what one's got.
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I'm a language teacher and amateur language scientist.
I want to develop a theory of language that can benefit people with autism as well as other disorders. I need people to knock ideas off so if you're at all interested please contact me.
Welcome to WP! It's always been fun for me to think about some of the "deeper" questions of the whys and hows of human behavior, especially when it involves group dynamics and social relationships. There's plenty of people here to talk about those things so hopefully you'll feel right at home.
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Diagnosed ASD 4/22/16
All magic comes with a price! - Rumplestiltskin
I am looking for fellow travellers in confusion.
I have no interest in making friends, as I do not know what that means. Only to share some questions with others who might be as equally motivated to answer such questions.
Its my opinion that the individual has no power and consequence in society. There is no such thing as understandings that one can reach simply on one's own.
An individual does not even have the power to understand themself.
I leave such notions to the normal members of society to whom I feel little affinity.
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I'm a language teacher and amateur language scientist.
I want to develop a theory of language that can benefit people with autism as well as other disorders. I need people to knock ideas off so if you're at all interested please contact me.
Two bodies in space and time, one body says the mind the other body pulls away.
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I'm a language teacher and amateur language scientist.
I want to develop a theory of language that can benefit people with autism as well as other disorders. I need people to knock ideas off so if you're at all interested please contact me.
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