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16 Feb 2007, 4:11 pm

I leaned about AS a few days ago. I am really good at it. I have been doing this for sixty years without a permit. I had all those childhood problems, but I never gave in. I am who I am. I am in favor of AS. without it I would have never become me. I always thought it was just me, but I signed up, read, and here is a lot of the same. Being a lot older than most perhaps I can explain a few things.

75% of people never read a book after High School. Would you want to be one of them?

A Social Life is a low grade form of warfare, most people spend their lives staying at the center of the herd.
It is conformity run amok, without purpose. The trait has some social usefullness, keeping groups together, but I am not in that business.

Fifteen billion years ago there was nothing, five billion years ago the sun formed from exploded suns, and one billion years ago this planet. Life took it's time, five million years ago some ground apes used sticks, rocks, and fire. fifty thousand years ago they learned to tie the stone to the end of a stick, and to throw a spear. fourty thousand years ago technology was born in one small group. With it they survived two ice ages. During the warming of the last ten thousand years, the age of metals, technology grew slowly for people and materials were spread out. Starting about 1850 production and transportation put resources in the hands of Aspies, fifty years later there were flying machines and automobiles, and in another fifty jet passenger planes.

This is where I come in. I worked IBM punchcard systems as a CPU. Machines started making machines, control systems improved, and computers as dumb as they were could run machines ten times better than a human. Aspie skills in math and science suddenly became high demand. Now thanks to Aspie Bill Gates, Intel, and Dell, we can all have Broadband. Aspies built the Internet, and are the largest users.

I repair computers for NT's, impossible for them, easy money for me. We have nothing to fear from them. I have tried to teach, they are not capable learning. The world is dependant on computers, and they on us.

I have spent my life in intense study, not work related, useless, moving from field to field. I had no idea why. I have had every system since Windows 3.0, my house does sink under the weight of books. I have machines, they are much better than friends. I hold a Patent on a system of teaching mathematics.

Now it is all converging, all that I studied is useful, I see the parts coming together. manufacturing and marketing use just the skills I learned. Computers have developed to where I can market to the world from my kitchen. I have some sucess in publishing, and have written a book.

There are two possible views, my mental derangment, now an offical Syndrom, just happened to coincide with technological history, and it is a perfect fit, or the Universe has been preparing me for this time since I was a child. I favor the Universe story. There is only math, the elements, electromagnetic waves, and time. I am a speck, living on a speck, in the great machine.

I once read a book, Childhood's End. Strange children were born, many did not speak, some did, they grew, gathered, and started to dance, all the energy and matter of the planet flowed to them. Let us dance.



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16 Feb 2007, 4:19 pm

Wow, that was interesting to read!

Welcome to Wrong Planet, I'm Dgd1788!


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16 Feb 2007, 4:31 pm

Welcome indeed.


I belive in a similar (if not duplicate thoery) that we are socitiy's offspring, our world of machines hath created us, and we are given from birth the abilty to manage information in a field chosen for us by some method; evoloution? maybe. We could be the next step, each with our own fields, granted, we are almost socially inept with NT's, but with each other, I sense understanding, and that is being social, as far as I am aware.


You will be a most intereting addition to our motley crew!



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16 Feb 2007, 5:34 pm

What a fantasic intro, and your final lines have a very poetic feel about them.
Glad you are here and hope you enjoy yourself, I am sure you will have plenty to share. :)



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16 Feb 2007, 5:40 pm

Welcome! You have such a great attitude! I am still angry ... sigh ...

I love sci-fi, too. Lotta people here do.



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16 Feb 2007, 5:53 pm

Hello Inventor,
I, too, have been 'doing AS with out a permit' for 57 years. I, too, repair and operate computers for people who GLORY in their not being able to wrap their minds around it.
I read books, I keep current on current events, in fact, I am a news junkie.
I always thought I was a 'flower child' and I think you understand what I mean, but the 'flower children' grew up and I never did.
I wondered if I were an early "Indigo child", but I do know we are pioneers of mainstreaming Autistics through the system. We never really knew 'what was wrong with us' and I think that is why we don't whine. We were too hard pressed to overcome what differentiated us from other people and besides, no one would listen to us whine for long.
Welcome, it is good to meet someone other than myself who was diagnosed later in life.
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16 Feb 2007, 6:11 pm

How can one be "in favor" of Asperger's Syndrome? It's not something you vote for.



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16 Feb 2007, 6:58 pm

kpupg?
What are you angry with/at?
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16 Feb 2007, 7:05 pm

lowfreq50 sez: How can one be "in favor" of Asperger's Syndrome? It's not something you vote for.

Merle opines:

well, you could NOT be in favor of AS and be angry, like kpupg, I guess. . .



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16 Feb 2007, 7:38 pm

i think you give us aspies too much credit.
sure the creator of the palm is an aspie, bill gates probably is, some even say newton was. but its all speculation. i think the creator of the palm has stated he has AS, but bill gates has not. and there is no way to test if newton had it. we like to think people like newton where aspies, but we really have no idea. he could have had anything.
i have noticed, ever since i was a kid, people around me did not seem to understand things at the level i did. i figured out how things worked, and no1 cared. i had an idea of how a computer worked, before i even used one. now that i know a lot more about it, i found i was 90% correct. i had ideas for third party chat clients for things like yahoo... when i was 8. i finally wrote one a few years ago (when i was 15-16ish) called YahEh. some of you involved yahoo chatter might have heard of it.
also i think my dad is an aspie. one time i was visiting him, he had this old old old TV, old old old speakers, old old old VCR, old old old IR remote. the remote has no mute button, the TVs hookup into the speakers had no remote volume control, and thus no mute, and the VCR had no volume. so how could he change the volume on his tv? no1 else even noticed how impressive that fact that he could was, but i did. i asked "how?" and my step-mom told me to press "tv-vcr" on the remote, and sure enough, it muted! i was very impressed and asked "how does that work?" she looked at me funny and said "u press it...." so i had to think about it for a sec and come up w/ my own theory involving having the TV and VCR always on the same channel (even when u change it), and the sound and video having separate outputs on the VCR, but not A-V wires, like 2 coax outputs. but anyways my point is, only an aspie would have found this setup interesting and would think about how it works. no NT would do that... and no NT would set it up.



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16 Feb 2007, 8:48 pm

Wow...this thread is packed with interesting postings! Hmm...I was interested in mathmatics and science, was pretty good at it until high school, and attempted in majoring in computer, but was a total failure...found out that my interest and capacity lay in literature...and consequently discovered religion, philosophy and psychology. But...I guess you can still be an aspie without being a science whiz. Anyway, it's nice to be able to think that aspies could be mainstream...:)



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16 Feb 2007, 9:11 pm

Welcome to WP!

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17 Feb 2007, 12:12 am

MErle,
I'm angry for the sake of the little girl who was bad, bad, bad because she did those aspie things -- only of course autism didn't exist back then, so it wasn't aspie, it was just bad. I'm angry that I spent all those years thinking I was junk because of it.

I only discovered recently that I'm aspie, so it's still a shock to think I have a label -- a disorder. It's a relief because it explains everything; it's also a shock because to so many people different = bad. There's that word again. What in the world is disordered about us, I ask you -- we are the most systematized people on the planet.

I would like to get over it, but I don't know quite what to do with it. I would like to have a great, affirming attitude toward a loving universe, like Inventor.



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17 Feb 2007, 4:34 am

People speaking to me? This is new. I am an isolated, alienated, loner. Please understand that my people skills are weak, non-existant. Kpupg nailed it, we are the most systematized people on the planet. I seek the order in systems, hence, I cannot relate to humans. Where there is order I can see it.

There are choices, this way or that. There was some attempt to fix me. With a lifetime of support I could have been a defective person. I took the other road. There is one of me, located I think at the geographic center of the Universe, I think in 3D, in color, with zoom, pan, motion, and all matter has color/texture/density.

I am of the Great Machine. The Universe. It is all within limits, math, matter, energy, time. Many times I have been told a machine is broken, the best minds have failed to repair it, and I fix it in five minutes. For this I am hated. There was the cost, the non-performance, repairs paid for without results, then I ran my hands over it, and it came to life. I had just proved that the owner, everything and everyone they knew, and all their wealth, were useless and defective. So they call me names, and try to cheat me out of my fee.

Now I say it is hopeless, but I would buy it for parts. Then I sell it. Everyone is now happy.

I did vote pro AS, I was offered repair, and I walked away. The repair was to control my thoughts with drugs, shut down the picture show, teach me respect, to say yasa boss to everyone, keep my head down, and I might have been able to hold a janitor's job. I bought a motorcycle.

I have hopelessly failed everyone's expectations, except for mine. To the question, "Do you think everyone on earth is wrong, and you are right?" I answer yes. Taking my second motorcycle into the mountains of New Mexico, spreading my blanket on the ground, and looking up into the night sky, I am one with the Great Machine. Tested against that, all other relationships do not exist.

There is The Universe, math, matter, energy, time, the motorcycle, and me. I need the world for a burger and a tank of gas. When I think of all I have missed, I giggle.

I am a creation of The Great Machine, made of the same material, given insight, joy, and education directly from the Great Teacher. I have been trained to see what is, my building skills developed, and The Patent Office says I am the first on earth to have some thoughts, and to reduce them to practice.

I do not have thoughts, they are given to me. My part is to translate thought pictures into models and words that others might understand. I willingly gave up everything else for one true friend, one teacher, who is in tune with every atom of my being. I am given the energy to spend months in research, all day every day, then to stop, rest, then another round with another subject.

I went to a university for education and got boredom and conformity. Now I do more in months than the work for a degree, and it is all real, focused, and even though I do not know it at the time, just what I needed for the next step.

Questions again, do I see things because of months of intense study, or did it prepare me to understand the things I would be shown. Whatever it is, I am in too deep to change.

Tesla reported much the same. Like any other form of prototyping, many useless items are produced, each lacking at least some of the desired results. All information is convayed in waves, the human brain is about five watts, enough energy to send a signal to the other side of the planet, or enough to recieve a signal from the other side of the universe.

On most units the battery is low, it was tube type AM, picked up a lot of static, some are better, but while they get some of the sound track, they miss the HDTV quality image. Every now and then a unit works. Then you get a Tesla, who built machines in his head, 3D, color, motion, and every one of his inventions worked the first time it was built. Edison tried thousands of items for his light bulb.

It comes in degrees, over time, works with what it can find. It is attractive, Edison had the best men, the truely skilled came to him at Menlo Park, they had to, it is like that. Close Encounters, over powering thoughts. Tesla too had lab men, the best and most perfect for the job who came to him.

We are machine parts, we fit one place, and do one thing, parts form subsystems, that make systems, that produce a function. That it does work can be shown, it is just that there are no blueprints, assembly manual, and the unlabled parts are scattered over earth. We do not even know what it is, but we have to build it.

I enjoyed reading your comments. You are perfect and unused parts of something. Not fitting in any known system, says you are parts of a new machine. I love machines.



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17 Feb 2007, 8:52 pm

Your description.....people may call it vauge, nurotypicals would. I've spent most of my (short) life emulating them, it is an honor to read your posts, for you speak your thoughts, your exact thoughts, and this is something no neurotypical can ever hope to achiveve (before others attack me, i've done my fair share of people watching, I am a trainee psychologist, after all)


We are all wheels in a machine, we al have our own purpose, for this I am certain, and finding someone else who (expresses) has this thought is all but strength to my own beliefs.



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17 Feb 2007, 11:09 pm

INVENTOR:

Awesome intro!

I have been an unregistered aspie for 53 years now. I am an architect - my aspie abilities including spatial work well here. I have learned how to somewhat fit in to the world. I am very happy that in my day, the schools did not drug children.

Lets dance! :D


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