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13 Apr 2009, 4:15 pm
richie
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13 Apr 2009, 4:33 pm
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13 Apr 2009, 4:35 pm
13 Apr 2009, 5:30 pm
detox wrote:
I need to know Asperger's as if I was one.
Were one.
detox wrote:
Anyways, Boy, older, works at a grocery store and he organizes cans perfectly. Maybe I could have more little tidbits on how he would act in that sort of setting?
Such a setting would be extremely traumatic for an Aspie. The constant interaction with strangers who expect him to smile and make small talk while other strangers mill about all around and the Muzak drones on endlessly and there's constant noise of cash registers binging and bleeping and boxes being dropped and dragged around...by the end of the day, he'd be at panic attack level and need to hide in a cool, dark closet and stim and talk to himself until he calmed down. He'd work at that job for somewhere between a month to 90 days before a manager decided he was just too awkward and peculiar, or that the can organizing obsession was interfering with the normal work routine, and fired him. And he'd be tremendously relieved to be fired from a job that was driving him insane anyway.
You may find others here with very different experiences, but you couldn't have ever made me take a job like that at that age, even at gunpoint. My parents tried. I did work a retail jobs as an adult, in environments both similar and much quieter than that. Hated every minute of it. Ever see those T-shirts that say: Do I LOOK Like a @#!*$! People Person? Sums up the Aspie experience very well.
detox wrote:
Also, I need to know some stuff about how he would react around a girl that he likes.
This would be basically the same as dealing with customers, especially at first. He might know internally what he would like to say, but would find it nearly impossible to externalize it by talking to her. If she spoke to him first, that would make it a lot easier for him, but he'd still be very slow to make conversation and even then would only perk up and get chatty if she mentioned something he had a personal obsessive interest in (a hobby, etc).
Hope that's helpful.
13 Apr 2009, 5:38 pm
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This would be basically the same as dealing with customers, especially at first. He might know internally what he would like to say, but would find it nearly impossible to externalize it by talking to her. If she spoke to him first, that would make it a lot easier for him, but he'd still be very slow to make conversation and even then would only perk up and get chatty if she mentioned something he had a personal obsessive interest in (a hobby, etc).
WOAH how do you do that? That is EXACTLY how I feel! Rarely do people describe things that closely to how I see them.
From my personal experience I would say that's a great start for the relationship part! (haha rhyme
)
13 Apr 2009, 5:50 pm
kissmyarrrtichoke wrote:
WOAH how do you do that? That is EXACTLY how I feel! Rarely do people describe things that closely to how I see them.
We're all walking around with the same weird wiring. It's all about how the brain processes incoming stimuli (or doesn't, as the case may be). I think of it in terms of computer processor chips - or perhaps a funnel - if the gateway is too small, it just takes longer for the stimuli to pass through it and get processed. In the meantime, we feel the hourglass spinning in our heads, while people on the outside see us standing there silently, avoiding eye contact, while we try to process the data and formulate a response to it.
I could sound like the suavest muthaf***r on the radio, as long as I had 3 to 5 minutes to write and rehearse. But when the boss brought a local poobah in unannounced and said "here - interview this person live right now" - I never sounded like a bigger bumbling idiot. Talk about a panic attack.
Ain't it funny though, how you can rehearse some conversations a hundred times in your head, but when the time comes to actually interact with the other person, the little driver in your head just goes "Never mind" and you can't say anything? At least none of the important stuff you meant to say. I hate when that happens. All the time.
13 Apr 2009, 6:43 pm
13 Apr 2009, 9:12 pm
13 Apr 2009, 11:28 pm
Hi Carrina,
I grew up in a home in which physical and emotional abuse (at times) was normal (father- alcholic). My sister became a bully and could always get my mother on her side. I remember most times just putting up with it, but when I had enough or if she did something which went against my morals (like throwing a spoonful of dog food in my hair when I'm a vegetarian) I would go into an uncontrollable rage. I remember standing with my arms ramrod straight at my sides and screaming whilst uncontrollably shaking, then sweeping my hand across the glassess on the shelf and smashing them. I was rarely reprimanded at these times, I guess because they were so rare and my family may have realised they were provoking me. However, they often laughed at me when I did these things which made me feel angry and insecure (I just wanted them to like and treat me fairly).
No matter how my family were, it did not affect me in a great way as I would retreat into my own world. I lived in a world of books and children's movies (I still do sometimes). I would take on the personalities of the characters and even talk as they do. My parents certainly did not know what aspergers was, they called me eccentric. To get along with my family I became the Pollyanna, Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm, Anne of Green Gables... Although it helped me get along with my father, my sister couldn't stand me acting like a "perfect angel".
I would spend a lot of time in my room crying with a pillow stuffed into my mouth to stop me from being heard or I would play sad music and sit in front of the stereo in my room and stare blankly ahead for a few songs. Luckily, I had my stuffed animals for comfort and I would reward them by putting them out on the balcony with a rug over them to prevent them from getting cold. Ok, at 15 I knew they were not real, but just in case...
At this age I also tried to get to Narnia (just as Eustace and Jill tried in The Silver Chair). Sadly, it didn't work and I was still stuck in this reality 
Anyhow, I hope this helps to give you an insight of a not typical Aspie (none of us are really typical).
Good luck with your script
14 Apr 2009, 12:21 am
16 Apr 2009, 11:00 pm
16 Apr 2009, 11:04 pm
Willard wrote:
detox wrote:
I need to know Asperger's as if I was one.
Were one.
detox wrote:
Anyways, Boy, older, works at a grocery store and he organizes cans perfectly. Maybe I could have more little tidbits on how he would act in that sort of setting?
Such a setting would be extremely traumatic for an Aspie. The constant interaction with strangers who expect him to smile and make small talk while other strangers mill about all around and the Muzak drones on endlessly and there's constant noise of cash registers binging and bleeping and boxes being dropped and dragged around...by the end of the day, he'd be at panic attack level and need to hide in a cool, dark closet and stim and talk to himself until he calmed down. He'd work at that job for somewhere between a month to 90 days before a manager decided he was just too awkward and peculiar, or that the can organizing obsession was interfering with the normal work routine, and fired him. And he'd be tremendously relieved to be fired from a job that was driving him insane anyway.
You may find others here with very different experiences, but you couldn't have ever made me take a job like that at that age, even at gunpoint. My parents tried. I did work a retail jobs as an adult, in environments both similar and much quieter than that. Hated every minute of it. Ever see those T-shirts that say: Do I LOOK Like a @#!*$! People Person? Sums up the Aspie experience very well.
detox wrote:
Also, I need to know some stuff about how he would react around a girl that he likes.
This would be basically the same as dealing with customers, especially at first. He might know internally what he would like to say, but would find it nearly impossible to externalize it by talking to her. If she spoke to him first, that would make it a lot easier for him, but he'd still be very slow to make conversation and even then would only perk up and get chatty if she mentioned something he had a personal obsessive interest in (a hobby, etc).
Hope that's helpful.
Okay, thank you. I was going to make the grocery store he worked at a little one in a small town where there isn't much business. Family-owned, that sort. It would be a better setting because everything will be quite slow until Girl shows up and gets everything living again. Girl's a pretty outgoing girl, full of life and very talkative. Maybe even the opposite of Boy (which is a reason he is attracted to her) but not at a gross extreme. Thanks for the tips!
16 Apr 2009, 11:06 pm
Willard wrote:
kissmyarrrtichoke wrote:
WOAH how do you do that? That is EXACTLY how I feel! Rarely do people describe things that closely to how I see them.
We're all walking around with the same weird wiring. It's all about how the brain processes incoming stimuli (or doesn't, as the case may be). I think of it in terms of computer processor chips - or perhaps a funnel - if the gateway is too small, it just takes longer for the stimuli to pass through it and get processed. In the meantime, we feel the hourglass spinning in our heads, while people on the outside see us standing there silently, avoiding eye contact, while we try to process the data and formulate a response to it.I could sound like the suavest muthaf***r on the radio, as long as I had 3 to 5 minutes to write and rehearse. But when the boss brought a local poobah in unannounced and said "here - interview this person live right now" - I never sounded like a bigger bumbling idiot. Talk about a panic attack.
Ain't it funny though, how you can rehearse some conversations a hundred times in your head, but when the time comes to actually interact with the other person, the little driver in your head just goes "Never mind" and you can't say anything? At least none of the important stuff you meant to say. I hate when that happens. All the time.
Oooh, and this could be helpful in developing Boy. Hehe.
16 Apr 2009, 11:06 pm
16 Apr 2009, 11:09 pm
Michy wrote:
Hi Carrina,
I grew up in a home in which physical and emotional abuse (at times) was normal (father- alcholic). My sister became a bully and could always get my mother on her side. I remember most times just putting up with it, but when I had enough or if she did something which went against my morals (like throwing a spoonful of dog food in my hair when I'm a vegetarian) I would go into an uncontrollable rage. I remember standing with my arms ramrod straight at my sides and screaming whilst uncontrollably shaking, then sweeping my hand across the glassess on the shelf and smashing them. I was rarely reprimanded at these times, I guess because they were so rare and my family may have realised they were provoking me. However, they often laughed at me when I did these things which made me feel angry and insecure (I just wanted them to like and treat me fairly).
No matter how my family were, it did not affect me in a great way as I would retreat into my own world. I lived in a world of books and children's movies (I still do sometimes). I would take on the personalities of the characters and even talk as they do. My parents certainly did not know what aspergers was, they called me eccentric. To get along with my family I became the Pollyanna, Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm, Anne of Green Gables... Although it helped me get along with my father, my sister couldn't stand me acting like a "perfect angel".
I would spend a lot of time in my room crying with a pillow stuffed into my mouth to stop me from being heard or I would play sad music and sit in front of the stereo in my room and stare blankly ahead for a few songs. Luckily, I had my stuffed animals for comfort and I would reward them by putting them out on the balcony with a rug over them to prevent them from getting cold. Ok, at 15 I knew they were not real, but just in case...
At this age I also tried to get to Narnia (just as Eustace and Jill tried in The Silver Chair). Sadly, it didn't work and I was still stuck in this reality
Anyhow, I hope this helps to give you an insight of a not typical Aspie (none of us are really typical).
Good luck with your script
I grew up in a home in which physical and emotional abuse (at times) was normal (father- alcholic). My sister became a bully and could always get my mother on her side. I remember most times just putting up with it, but when I had enough or if she did something which went against my morals (like throwing a spoonful of dog food in my hair when I'm a vegetarian) I would go into an uncontrollable rage. I remember standing with my arms ramrod straight at my sides and screaming whilst uncontrollably shaking, then sweeping my hand across the glassess on the shelf and smashing them. I was rarely reprimanded at these times, I guess because they were so rare and my family may have realised they were provoking me. However, they often laughed at me when I did these things which made me feel angry and insecure (I just wanted them to like and treat me fairly).
No matter how my family were, it did not affect me in a great way as I would retreat into my own world. I lived in a world of books and children's movies (I still do sometimes). I would take on the personalities of the characters and even talk as they do. My parents certainly did not know what aspergers was, they called me eccentric. To get along with my family I became the Pollyanna, Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm, Anne of Green Gables... Although it helped me get along with my father, my sister couldn't stand me acting like a "perfect angel".
I would spend a lot of time in my room crying with a pillow stuffed into my mouth to stop me from being heard or I would play sad music and sit in front of the stereo in my room and stare blankly ahead for a few songs. Luckily, I had my stuffed animals for comfort and I would reward them by putting them out on the balcony with a rug over them to prevent them from getting cold. Ok, at 15 I knew they were not real, but just in case...
At this age I also tried to get to Narnia (just as Eustace and Jill tried in The Silver Chair). Sadly, it didn't work and I was still stuck in this reality
Anyhow, I hope this helps to give you an insight of a not typical Aspie (none of us are really typical).
Good luck with your script
Thank you very much for sharing your experience with me! I'm sure that it will help me in developing Boy's nature alot easier. Once again, thanks. c:
17 Apr 2009, 6:57 am
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Okay, thank you. I was going to make the grocery store he worked at a little one in a small town where there isn't much business. Family-owned, that sort. It would be a better setting because everything will be quite slow until Girl shows up and gets everything living again. Girl's a pretty outgoing girl, full of life and very talkative. Maybe even the opposite of Boy (which is a reason he is attracted to her) but not at a gross extreme. Thanks for the tips!
Ok, another movie recommendation (sorry they are my particular obsession
)
What's Eating Gilbert Grape (1993) Leonardo DiCaprio is an autist in that though I think it's more autism than aspergers, cos he seems to be quite severe. He hangs around alot where his brother works which is a grocery store just as you described. And a girl comes along and changes his life, so that may be worth checking out too if you haven't seen it
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