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It's very, scarily easy to get into an "us and them" frame of mind as a moderator. Doesn't happen to everyone, but it is unfortunately common.

I'm a touch confused here, Mysty, as Merle never made the correlation that you did, that she felt thrown 'under the bus' equated with her being or not being a moderator. Perhaps I'm missing something here; if you would point out where that's inferred, I would appreciate it.


M.

The bolded part (bolded by me just now) seems clearly to be a references to Alex taking moderator privileges away from the moderators. Which wasn't quoted, but was mentioned in this thread by Alex.

And I made no claim about anyone's feelings. You've misread me there.

I see the part in bold, but I don't see where the relationship is drawn and don't automatically connect the two unrelated bits of information. To do so seems a strange bit of assumption to presume the two comments by two different people were related... but that's just me. Pika makes a good point - when uncertain of what is happening, lock the system down until the situation is understood, which is what Alex has done... same thing I've done with a thief in the classroom. So I would surmise that there would be another reason for such a comment instead of attempting to draw inferred relationships, due to the fractured nature of the comments made. As for now, we wait to hear back from Alex as to what the situation is.


M.

in order to be clear it is expressly this comment by Mr. Plank that infers he has prejudged the situation i.e. 'thrown the moderators under the bus'.



why would it be 'clearly malicious' without investigation?

Merle

Because it's not that easy to do. Clicking a ban button is an easy mistake, deleting a post is pretty easy too deleting an account involves a lot more at at least on SMF boards and to delete all of someones posts even more than that. It screws with the tables on the back up and can cause instability which is way it's not done much.

The two moderators on this thread make visiting WrongPlanet most unpleasant and even stressful much of the time.

There's no assumption on my part that comments from two different people are related. Quoting a post by Alex and saying "you" in the reply shows that Merle's reply relates to what Alex said. I'm saying that, in interpreting that reply to Alex, I'm looking at not just the post from Alex quoted, but a previous post, also by Alex, which gives me more of the story.

I apologize in advance for jumping in and blurting out thoughts that, while they are related, they are not related...

I often fail to appreciate the complicated events, the things that need to be done in order to make a thing work and run smoothly. I take things for granted. It is like my couch, I expect that when I sit in it, it will support me and not collapse, landing my behind in a mess of broken wood, springs and cushions on the floor. The same goes with this site. I come here, things appear to be fine on my end. I can browse posts, reply, send out and receive pms... I am not harassed, not bombarded by spam... I am able to use a very complicated thing with ease. Now and then I read of glitches and technicalities and problems which need to be attended to and it floors me. Alex, I have no idea how you do what you do here and I have to be honest here, I am glad because it would overwhelm me. Sometimes I get a reality check of how much needs to go into something that I take for granted. I am appreciative of what you do here and your ability to do what you do is beyond me. I could not do this. I am glad you can.

I am sorry to hear that people's accounts are vanishing. I hope that this will be something that is not too difficult to fix. I know that sounds silly as clearly it is a big problem. I am just glad that there are people out there who can and will look into this and do what they can to right the wrongs. I know this is a bad situation, but it gives me a level of appreciation and perspective that I lacked before. I have to laugh at myself sometimes... I live in a world where these things happen to me often. I regularly feel as though I look at the most normal, everyday things for the first time ever when realization hits me suddenly.

http://www.psychforums.com/asperger-syn ... 46083.html

I don't understand what your point is with that link at all.

I concur; what exactly is your point with that?

Are you insinuating that you are punishing people for words said on another forum?

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Which two mods are they?

Hi. I was benjimanbreeg. I'm not trying to be sneaky, I just wanted to add to the situation. I know a lot of members have been harrassed by sinsboldly, myself included. It seems SpokaneGirl was most of all. Now considering that, doesn't it seem slightly odd, that it was her that was deleted? Before I was banned I asked sinsboldly if my account could be deleted, cause I get addicted to posting on forums. And said if she could do that in a few days time, then I could swap details with my friends. She said it couldn't be done. So I told her i'd go to Alex with issue. Then I woke up the next day and had been banned. She had sent me an email, saying I should answer my PM's. I tried talking with her, but she said she'd leave it with Alex. I spoke to him about sinsboldly, and said it was her doing. But he looked at the links she sent him, of me talking about sex in the adult forum! And said i'd lied to him. If sins is guilty, then I was right all along. I spoke to Bollard about this, and he agreed banning wasn't the answer. Plus, sins bans people for stuff that she finds personally offensive, and thats a long list. Its obvious by her reaction on here, that she sees being a moderator as some kind of unique power, one that she takes advantage of. And then runs her boss down for taking the right action, considering what has happened. I'd like to know who made Mak a mod, cause he seems a lot like sins, maybe Alex should check their IP'S to see if they match, though she could have used a proxy. He was made a mod while Alex was in exile. Lau hasn't been any better in these situations either. I don't see why mods can't be more like Bollard, see's things down the middle, and isn't bitter. DWMom also seems decent.

There's a lot to learn from this. We should take into account that aspies don't communicate too well, and may say things they don't realise causes offense. So is banning them the answer? Just sweeping under the rug doesn't solve the issue. It had gone way too far. This should be a place where aspies can feel safe, hopefully now things can change, its a shame it came to this though. I agree if someone is just a troll, and doing things on purpose, like being overly offensive and posting hideous pictures, then they should be dealt with. But this isn't a prison, its an aspie site, so I hope it can get back to that.

I think the feeling "thrown under the bus" is because people are listening to rumors. Anybody else noticed that the people who say the nasty things never give you the whole story? When I've asked the people who say they were threatened or harassed by moderators for more information, like what was said, or why they thought something was harassment, they've gotten nasty and aggressive just to make me shut up. (With the exception of one person who I think listened to rumors and then ended up sounding like the people who were spreading the rumors just because she was afraid the rumors were true.)
Whenever I ask Merle a question, she answers it. Accusations are hurtful, and I don't see how being upset that people are believing rumors and accusations is a sign of guilt.

And on the topic of that link.. it's referring to some kind of "project" relating to WP that's super-top-secret and can't be told to anybody who can't be "trusted," and will be "wreaked" if WP moderators find out. It looks to me like somebody's trying to organize the online equivalent of a lynching mob.

The only lynching mob is on here, the lynching mod. Its not a coincidence that hundreds of people have been thrown to the slaughter. I guess you must be a personal friend of Merle, so I can understand why you're sticking up for her.