WP op user abuse

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There is a serious problem with op/user abuse in the wp chat room, esp. with an op named Bateau. Someone was banned after they left wrong planet chat, while they were being attacked. The people who did the attacking remain (friends of the op) while the person they were attacking, and who left because of it, was banned AFTER she left because of it, by the same op. Will wp please do something about the op/user abuse on wp? The user in question gets away with abusing others because of personal relationship this op. Anyone who defends themselves from her abuse (this time she called the user an idiot, then continued defending it after the user told her this was not okay....her application of this label to other users is quite frequent) is targeted, quieted or banned. These are not the first attacks from either the op or the abuser I am told. This is not the first time a user has been banned after defending themselves from the attack or leaving either. Thank you.

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt20583.html

I do not understand your response...or the link or what I am supposed to do about it. Can you please clarify?

Just an indication that it's an ongoing issue.

I'm not sure what's going to happen about it. If you're not interested, then okay.

Someone please read logs this morning re: abuse from op named Bateau and Gamerkitten.

Huh? I am interested....just not sure how the link in your reply applies or what else I am supposed to do about it. Bateau just got in another channel. He suddenly joined every channel I am in after he banned me for defending myself against Gamer. He defended his action with lies and nonsense...incl. in relation to sending a pm telling the attacker that it is not okay to call me an idiot. Hes simply concocting nonsense to defend his bully action of banning a member after they left because they were being attacked by Gamerkitten. Gamerkitten and KWC10 both continued attacking as I left. Then I got banned for leaving, finally, after defending myself. He forced all communication with him in channel. Then he used another ops channel to defend and bully me more there and to defend his bully ban. He told me to work it out with gamer even after i got accused of harassment for sending a message stating only htat it is not okay to call me an idiot. Thats being assertive. It is not harassment. I did hte adult thing and kept it out of channel. She dragged it into channel then kept attacking and defending her abuse. So, he tells me to work it out with her...but if I send even one pm or memo stating the issue, I am accused of harassment. If I defend myself in channel against her abuse, I get banned. This is an abuse of power and control by an op, and manipulation of a user to get away with abuse. The target is put in a no win situation. NO matter what you do, they find a way to circumvent it, blame you for their behavior and attack. There is no winning. This is op and user manipulation and abuse.

Will you people please finally do something about users manipulating ops to harm other users? Including manipulating ops to target users? Or manipulating ops to get away with attacking other users with no consequences,....while the targets of those attacks are forced to leave or defend themselves, and adding insult to injury by banning the targets for doing so?

#wrongplanet is independent from, is operated in isolation from, and has nothing to do with "Wrong Planet" the web site.
IRC channels like #wrongplanet (or #mycatbox or #pinkelephant etc) can be started and operated by anyone, whereas Wrong Planet is a web site owned wholly by Alex Plank.

We are responsible for moderation activities here on Wrong Planet, and here alone.
We have no access to any IRC logs because #wrongplanet is an entirely different concern, and we have no control over the way it is operated.

Perhaps the following link might give a better perspective on more recent developments, and provide a few WP member names who might be better placed to help you.
In general, issues about the operation of the IRC channel should go to the channel itself or be posted to this thread:
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp4066513.html#4066513
But even then, because #wronglanet is a privately operated IRC channel, it is the channel operators you will have to turn to for any problem resolution.

There doesn't seem to be any obvious authority to appeal to about this that I'm aware of.

Feel free to use the forum, I think we keep it reasonably nice, without having to chuck too many people out.

Good luck.

That's about the size of it.
With any IRC channel, the channel operators are God.

Edited to add some general IRC help pointers:
http://www.mirc.com/ircintro.html
http://www.mirc.com/conflicts.html

Thanks. I appreciate that....Gods? NO...Gods tend to operate by some consistent standards/ patterns...a power glutted tyrant or two?....yes....they operate on whim when it personally suits them, regardless of fall out to others. It shouldn't be that he who manipulates (Ops) the best gets to stay and do whatever he pleases at all others expense, esp. on an aspie channel...many of us are backscratch, butt kissing impaired. Thanks again.

I concur, but the forums are ran by a different set of people than Chat is.

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Hmm, good point.
I suspect that link refers to a happier, earlier incarnation of the IRC channel.

I'll see what can be done about correcting the impression that the IRC channel is under the control of Wrong Planet, the web site.

The #wrongplanet channel is owned by Alex

Him and WardenWolf have the final say about adding/removing operators, although there has been many discussions on whether it would be appropriate for Alex to hand over control of the channel to someone who visits more regularly than once every few months.

The rules in the channel topic, http://www.wrongplanet.net/chatrules.txt, need serious expansion, especially this section:

contacting [email protected] will yield no response, and it makes no sense to have a blanket 'violation consequences', different actions need different punishments or often no punishment at all. I have tried to discuss with alex, WW, toggie updating the rules to a better version written by Bateau. Toggie responded that they were much clearer but it appears Alex's rules are here to stay.
It is often best if you have an issue with an operator action (quiet, ban) to discuss it with the operator who issued the ban, you can also discuss it with another op (who will probably go discuss it with the original op to sort it out for you)

Finally, I would have been asleep at the time the issue discussed by the original poster occurred, but Bateau is a very reasonable person who has put in countless hours of effort over the years and is widely respected. Please also be aware that we are human and have other real life commitments.

These rules are not even being followed by the op in question now.