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I don't think that post meets WP standards, digger!

I don't consider self-righteous to speak in self-defense, and in defense of those I know work hard to keep this a relatively safe place.

You don't see all the downsides to some of the disputed conversations and posts. That thread you were referring to ... while I personally tend to find the NT satires kind of funny, as someone active primarily on the parent forum, I am also painfully - and I mean painfully - aware of how many NT parents have felt totally beaten up by this site and fled. Which means that you've just lost the war - these are the people you want to PERSUADE as they raise the next generation of AS kids, and will play a major role in how those kids will see the world around them.

A personal post by a mod in a thread is hardly a hard line tactic. It is someone trying to clue you into something you may not have considered. The thread wasn't deleted. It simply had a voice added to it.

well, when I got dx'ed some 10 years ago, there were no support groups for people with AS, only for their parents - people with AS were sometimes barely tolerated in those groups, but mainly as a 'freak show' and provided they never expressed opinions that might seem 'odd'. There's never been a shortage of parent support groups, so please don't play the 'pity the parent' card on that subject. The majority of parents here tend to have AS themselves and like having it in the family, so again, I don't think you have much of a point.

Even though I like this site and go on it virtually all day, what the OP says is true, not just this site but loads of internet forums are like that.

My point is hardly pity the parent. It's about looking at the long term goal. Do you REALLY want NT parents only hearing from other NT parents how to raise an AS child, or would you like them to understand, really understand, their AS kids, which is the asset allowing them some comfort here provides? Shouldn't the goal of this forum, as part of it's support function, be to make life better for all AS? Can that goal be met, with respect to the kids, by scaring off parents?

If you've read the parent forum, you know we leave a lot of leeway to those who are AS in responding to parents. But, at some point, there has to be some balance between what is lost v. what is gained.

This forum is also very public, and represents AS to people with little understanding of it. Shouldn't that image be a positive one, to the extent possible?

well this is a pro autism site, it's not a neutral site, there's probably a veneer of neutrality but most sites have some kind of bias beneath a veneer of neutrality. In my experience there's certain kinds of parents who would never dream of participating in this kind of site and they're well catered for, in fact most parent support sites are hostile to autism.

I know some of the autistic parents here felt uncomfortable in the parents section and asked for their own separate section, I'm not sure whether that happened, but it makes you wonder what the agenda is there. The thing you are trying to create there or propose to engineer in that section is already overcatered for elsewhere.

I really think the mods need to cut way back on the authoritarianism - they are maybe at an "8" on authoritarianism right now - they should be about a "2." Remember most of us by definition hate rules that don't have a good reason and will refuse to follow them. Being so authoriatarian on an aspie site is frankly ret*d - and not like 50 year old guy bagging groceries ret*d - I mean like crap in your pants and drool ret*d.

yeah, in a nutshell.

there's no such thing as a neutral human being, they just mask it, and it seems some of the mods want to push their own agendas here. I don't think it ends well.

Your feedback is always welcome; however, this site has a specific purpose and rules. If those are so terrible, then there are myriad other sites, including support sites, that are out there with varying environments. That power corrupts is something known, as is that a lack of attention leads to decay. Being here is a choice for all of us.


M.

What do you see as being the specific purpose of this site, Mak?

I can't speak to the past. I've only been modding a few months. And, well, its really not like I ASKED for the job; I most certainly did not, and if someone had asked me if I was willing I would have said no. But no one asked and once it was given to me I figured maybe there was reason to it, and I've tried to do my best to serve the needs of ALL who visit the boards I check. I am a very pro-AS parent in that we don't medicate or "treat" in any way, we allow our son to stim to his hearts content, and so on, and that philosophy gets posted about. But I won't attack a parent's choices. One thing I've learned as a parent is that you really never have the complete picture, and what works for me may not work for you. But do I want as many parents as possible to read here and get the message, "stop trying to sqaush your child's stims and physical needs! They calm him down!"? Well, yes, I do. It's like a magic concept you won't hear anywhere else, but I can't begin to say how much it changed things in our household.

I am very much a bridge builder by nature. Not alwasy successful at it, but it is always my goal. I think disparate people can learn so much from each other. You just have to find the middle ground and let go of a few leaden weights.

this says more about you than it does about the moderation team.

You could post here.

The "my way or the highway" attitude a few mods have is frankly disgusting.

and yet here you are, roaming around WP unmolested by moderators, speaking your mind, saying what you want. I think you are disproving your own theory, actually.

he he...unmolested by moderators...