Should the wrongplanet chat room be moved to its own server?

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my bad double post

Last edited by Xanovaria on 20 Jun 2009, 2:28 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Alex doesn't have time to do what would be required to set up an IRC server, and he sure as hell doesn't want to spend his Ad money.. Ready made, secure and stable networks dedicated to aspergers are what is missing in the IRC space, like mine

Also, freenode have said would close down the rooms, so much drama... Most of their time and resources are also taken up managing the many aspergers rooms, which are "off-topic" on that network. Freenode is suppose to be for Open Source rooms, not aspergers support..

The problem is that he keeps on ban evading, and coming back to the same channel, and hassling people on the channel and all associated channels creating a disturbance

The best way to describe it is Freenode see all you people as flies, and there seems to be a lot of them
To remove the flies, you have to remove the food that they are feeding off, and kill all the remaining flies in the process



freenode provides discussion facilities for the Free and Open Source Software communities, for not-for-profit organizations and for related communities and organizations

Last edited by stevecam on 20 Jun 2009, 8:44 am, edited 1 time in total.

I think that someone ought to start a back up irc.wrongplanet.net for alex and just give the new wrongplanet irc to alex. It would really be a good idea to have something for back up for just in case. I dont know how to start a irc.wrongplanet.net, but if i can i would start one and give the whole think to alex to run. I think from there we can add the other programs that should go along with wrongplanet like the megaly channel. The megaly channel is a good channel for people like me that gets depressed a lot. Well that is just my opinion here. I dont really know if it is a good idea or a bad idea. Freenode is eventually going to get tired of wrongplanet sooner or later. I think we ought to take action now and get things situated.

I cant make no promises but I am trying to put something together. I am willing to make the contribution towards it. I am trying to get irc.wrongplanet.net and I will just hand it over to alex. That is the only right thing that I can think of doing, and I am willing to contribute to the cause. I think it would be better if wrongplanet was not involved with freenode. That is just my opinion. Maybe soon we can try it out to see how everything works out, and be able to get situated. I am excited about the idea of wrongplanet having its own irc. I hope that I can make this happen for us.

I had volunteered in the past to host the chat room, even got permission from my upstream provider and exceptions to normal policy for the purpose of a support environment. My offer was turned down by Alex, multiple times, as well as resulting in disapproval from many users on the network (for many legitimate reasons, including the fact most serious users are longtime users of Freenode and it would result in additional traffic for them to join another channel, and questions about if I had the ability to adequately protect personal information, which I think was answered clearly in some of my previous work)

Thankfully, in my dealings with Freenode staff, including my conversations with Christel, they have been very agreeable and were very happy to help (I'm the one who, for example, got us longer ban lists, and got our channel on the list for the earlier testing of better filtering, allowing us to deal with IP range blocks more effectively, even when reverse-DNS wouldn't operate from some server nodes.)

I believe that as long as they continue to support us, we should use the service they are providing. (the main reason we were wanting to move originally was the hassle of problems with ban list limitations and Alex's unwillingness to come out and support the channel ops when we needed more assistance from the network, he wouldn't even put in the requests for us for over a year)

p.s. for anyone who is wondering if I would have been able to manage this, my upstream at my dorm is a OC-96, split between about 300 users, giving about 16mbps to each user, they were willing to allocate me a guaranteed slot of 10mbps for this, instead of using the shared pool)

It takes money for alex to have build irc.wrongplanet.net. I have that covered. It will also take some time and patience to have this done.

I have someone working on ircwrongplanet.net, it takes time but iamlost is working on it.

So far I have got this 67.223.227.203 port 9000 that is how to connect for now. you type 67.223.227.203 in the server and connect to port 9000, #wrongplanet
I also need help convincing Alex Plank that this is the right thing to do. For now it is the back up wrongplanet just incase freenode does not work out for wrongplanet.

or... there is my server as a backup, a place we can actually provide good service as well as protection of user privacy and more effective control of problems. That is, if I was in a position to fix them, including getting rid of several ops who, imho, need to go.

getting rid of several ops who, imho, need to go.

Bateau does that include me?

I am really computer illiterate, and that is not fun for me to be either.

I would not change anything, I dont think that I like change at all. Part of being autistic, and I am very autistic.

Last edited by KateSmith on 26 Jun 2009, 6:40 am, edited 1 time in total.

Well, I feel that some people get op status cas there popular in the chat room

Not that all the ops there are bad people in there, i just think it is time for a different approach on things

I really think that wrongplanet needs more ops. It needs more coverage, and ops are hard to find. That is my opinion, give others a chance if possible. Another thing to me everyone that is on the channel is a very important person and a special person to me.

So far I have contributed 2 checks to alex one for a 125.00 and one for a 100.00. I am hoping that he uses the money wisely and creates irc.wrongplanet.net with it. I am willing to donate 100 dollars a month to alex so that hopefully he can improve things in wrongplanet. That is all that I can afford.

If it moves I'd rather see it move...uh...somewhere that's by IRC standards at least secure. So somewhere that it's being run by someone who knows what they're doing.

Kate, if you want your money to go to irc, then...you're probably sending it the wrong place. I could be wrong but I doubt it. The website is Alex's main priority I think.

he doesnt need that much to start an IRC server, where will you get all that money from