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AlSwearengen
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01 Mar 2011, 10:35 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
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So as far as you know there is one (you) vs a few (three or four)?


Actually, I only know for certain of one friend on here who got rather upset when QM deemed one of their threads to be in violation of the TOS.


I can imagine no one likes being accused of violating Term Of Service. Must feel like they are being accused of breaking laws. Bad feeling.
Probably similar to being threatened with legal action. Excepting of course that in one instance the incursion has no direct effect on a person's life and is kept in-house so to speak.
But yes the feeling likely would not have been positive.


That problem has been resolved, so why would you seek to start it up again?


Oh mine was merely an example. An analogous example springing all too readily to mind. Helping you understand the ill-feeling your friend may have had.

I had not realised that it had been resolved and don't care or know how but now that you mention it, I don't recall ever getting an apology. Did you post that somewhere around here? Have not been that active lately. Must have missed it.



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01 Mar 2011, 10:41 am

AlSwearengen wrote:
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So as far as you know there is one (you) vs a few (three or four)?


Actually, I only know for certain of one friend on here who got rather upset when QM deemed one of their threads to be in violation of the TOS.


I can imagine no one likes being accused of violating Term Of Service. Must feel like they are being accused of breaking laws. Bad feeling.
Probably similar to being threatened with legal action. Excepting of course that in one instance the incursion has no direct effect on a person's life and is kept in-house so to speak.
But yes the feeling likely would not have been positive.


That problem has been resolved, so why would you seek to start it up again?


Oh mine was merely an example. An analogous example springing all too readily to mind. Helping you understand the ill-feeling your friend may have had.

I had not realised that it had been resolved and don't care or know how but now that you mention it, I don't recall ever getting an apology. Did you post that somewhere around here? Have not been that active lately. Must have missed it.


You want an apology? In the original meaning of the word, I have provided an apology to everyone from Intensity Square who ganged up on me, but in terms of the current English meaning of the word I have apologized to the persons responsible for making the fake profiles of me within personal correspondence. However, if you too would like an apology in the English sense of the word, I would be willing to provide one should you also be so willing.



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01 Mar 2011, 10:53 am

I am a Father in RL and something that I have taught my children from an early age is to do with manners and the procedure in righting a wrong.

Goes something like this

If you do wrong

1. Acknowledge it.
2. Understand why it as wrong
3. Accept why it was wrong and how it was wrong.
4. Apologise sincerely
5. Seek to make amends
6. Endure it does not happen again.

They are good kids. They resolve issues well this way.

It is not about whether I want an apology or not is it?
What is it YOU want Iamnotaparakeet?



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01 Mar 2011, 10:54 am

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People who seek to be mods are actually looking for a bit of justification for a bit of even-ever-so-very-subtle bullying.


Dear me...am I a bullier? I didn't realize.

No one has said anything even close to that. Rather, please just consider ...

As someone here once said to someone else during my mod interactions here just a week or so ago, the mod always wins ...

... and now ask yourself: What would be different for you in relation to "keeping peace" here on WP if you had mod buttons?

In my own case, someone must have missed a long-previous post I had once made expressing my aspirations to moderate.


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01 Mar 2011, 10:58 am

just want to help out is all.


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01 Mar 2011, 11:01 am

IMHO, you'd make a very bad mod. And as Quatermass has said, you probably won't get the job now you've asked for it anyway. People who ask to be mods are just power hungry, and that's never good.



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01 Mar 2011, 11:06 am

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People who ask to be mods are just power hungry ...

Not true. Many people who apply for enforcement jobs (such as police work) only do so for what they believe is best for all.


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01 Mar 2011, 11:44 am

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IMHO, you'd make a very bad mod. And as Quatermass has said, you probably won't get the job now you've asked for it anyway. People who ask to be mods are just power hungry, and that's never good.


That seems to be an Article of Faith here on WP, but it seems to me to be as flawed as any other generalization.

What would be far more interesting to me is to hear who people would nominate for consideration. Rather than campaigning for the job for yourself, which other person would you like to see in the job?


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01 Mar 2011, 11:47 am

AlSwearengen wrote:
I am a Father in RL and something that I have taught my children from an early age is to do with manners and the procedure in righting a wrong.

Goes something like this

If you do wrong

1. Acknowledge it.
2. Understand why it as wrong
3. Accept why it was wrong and how it was wrong.
4. Apologise sincerely
5. Seek to make amends
6. Endure it does not happen again.

They are good kids. They resolve issues well this way.

It is not about whether I want an apology or not is it?
What is it YOU want Iamnotaparakeet?


Blah blah blah, methinks you enjoy drama too much.



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01 Mar 2011, 11:50 am

Its common knowledge that some previous mods, who didn't ask to be a mod. Turned out to be power starving. I think mods have to be very neutral, its not easy to do that. AceOfSpades seems to be very neutral.


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01 Mar 2011, 12:14 pm

leejosepho wrote:
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People who ask to be mods are just power hungry ...

Not true. Many people who apply for enforcement jobs (such as police work) only do so for what they believe is best for all.


Most people want power so they can do what they think is best. Unfortunately, some people have some wacky ideas about what best is.

There's a saying about the road to hell being paved with good intentions.

There's nothing wrong with having power and wielding it responsibly.


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01 Mar 2011, 12:22 pm

Moog wrote:
leejosepho wrote:
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People who ask to be mods are just power hungry ...

Not true. Many people who apply for enforcement jobs (such as police work) only do so for what they believe is best for all.


Most people want power so they can do what they think is best. Unfortunately, some people have some wacky ideas about what best is.

There's a saying about the road to hell being paved with good intentions.

There's nothing wrong with having power and wielding it responsibly.

No, certainly not!


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01 Mar 2011, 12:23 pm

Well said Moog :)

I've learned a long time ago to run as fast as I can whenever I hear anyone telling me they know what's best for me.


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01 Mar 2011, 12:50 pm

AlSwearengen wrote:
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Those who ask are generally not given moderatorship. I was conscripted, matey.


How did you do? Were you respected by the masses?


Irrelevent. We're only talking odds here, not absolutes. The concept being that someone who seeks the job v. someone who accepts the job is more likely to abuse it.

The truth is the job changes people and it's impossible to predict what will happen when someone steps in. But I can assure you that everyone who I worked with did their very best to make measured and fair decisions. Were any of us perfect at it? Of course not; who could be? But I saw sincere people putting forth a sincere effort to do what they honestly felt was in the best interest of this site, at leat 99% of the time. Disagree with individual decisions all you want, but don't knock their dedication.


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01 Mar 2011, 12:53 pm

I like how so many people think it's all fun being a mod. I've done it before and it isn't. It's a responsibility. Once the novelty's worn out, the people who ask to be mods probably won't bother to do a good job anymore, they'll just get bored of it.



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01 Mar 2011, 12:53 pm

AlSwearengen wrote:
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I what you say that he upset a few others but you respected him. So as far as you know there is one (you) vs a few (three or four)?

Not a great ratio but as I say we can't know others minds or what intent lurks beyond there


I really don't think this is a topic appropriate for public discussion. He's retired and should get to enjoy that in peace.

I will say this: there were times I couldn't get through to someone who was having trouble with the rules, but Quatermass did get along with them and got them to understand what they needed to do. He didn't bully them; he was just able to speak to them in way they understood, that I apparently wasn't. It takes all types in this world, and everyone has a place.


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