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15 Nov 2014, 2:17 am

^it seems so.
like i say, it's fortunate that this place is a lot more self sufficient and level headed and does not need as much policing, compared to lots of other chaotic sites ridden with poo flinging i've visited.

humiliation and ignoring by itself, can be a really powerful disincentive.


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15 Nov 2014, 5:02 am

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postxf268592-0-30.html

explains a lot of it, scroll down 5 posts or so


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16 Nov 2014, 2:27 am

Kiprobalhato wrote:
^it seems so.
like i say, it's fortunate that this place is a lot more self sufficient and level headed and does not need as much policing, compared to lots of other chaotic sites ridden with poo flinging i've visited.

humiliation and ignoring by itself, can be a really powerful disincentive.


Eventually we might have have a triage system. Protect a couple a section and let then others sections become hell.


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16 Nov 2014, 8:23 am

Kiprobalhato wrote:
^it seems so.
like i say, it's fortunate that this place is a lot more self sufficient and level headed and does not need as much policing, compared to lots of other chaotic sites ridden with poo flinging i've visited.

humiliation and ignoring by itself, can be a really powerful disincentive.


Ostracisation works too. There has to be other consequences beyond the disciplinary/rule breaking ones.

I've always thought that the mods should go easy with the offensive post deletion/removal because it gives that offensive poster a "get out of jail free" card when it comes to facing the social consequences of what they said. The posts are gone and people can't see what a dick they really are. Plus with the post removed the poster isn't gonna learn that saying offensive things results in people not wanting to be friends with you. Yes, we understand that people have trouble discerning the social rules and boundaries of what's acceptable to say and what's not, but we should be teaching them. Harsh I know.

The mods can still delete the obvious such as spam and first post trolls though.



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16 Nov 2014, 11:35 am

blue_bean wrote:
Kiprobalhato wrote:
^it seems so.
like i say, it's fortunate that this place is a lot more self sufficient and level headed and does not need as much policing, compared to lots of other chaotic sites ridden with poo flinging i've visited.

humiliation and ignoring by itself, can be a really powerful disincentive.


Ostracisation works too. There has to be other consequences beyond the disciplinary/rule breaking ones.

I've always thought that the mods should go easy with the offensive post deletion/removal because it gives that offensive poster a "get out of jail free" card when it comes to facing the social consequences of what they said. The posts are gone and people can't see what a dick they really are. Plus with the post removed the poster isn't gonna learn that saying offensive things results in people not wanting to be friends with you. Yes, we understand that people have trouble discerning the social rules and boundaries of what's acceptable to say and what's not, but we should be teaching them. Harsh I know.

The mods can still delete the obvious such as spam and first post trolls though.



I always thought it did the opposite, users would see it and think they got away with it because they didn't see them get warned about it in PM or get told to knock it off through PM so they would assume it must be okay behavior.

The con part of removing posts is it makes it look like they were banned for no reason.


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16 Nov 2014, 9:45 pm

League_Girl wrote:
blue_bean wrote:
Kiprobalhato wrote:
^it seems so.
like i say, it's fortunate that this place is a lot more self sufficient and level headed and does not need as much policing, compared to lots of other chaotic sites ridden with poo flinging i've visited.

humiliation and ignoring by itself, can be a really powerful disincentive.


Ostracisation works too. There has to be other consequences beyond the disciplinary/rule breaking ones.

I've always thought that the mods should go easy with the offensive post deletion/removal because it gives that offensive poster a "get out of jail free" card when it comes to facing the social consequences of what they said. The posts are gone and people can't see what a dick they really are. Plus with the post removed the poster isn't gonna learn that saying offensive things results in people not wanting to be friends with you. Yes, we understand that people have trouble discerning the social rules and boundaries of what's acceptable to say and what's not, but we should be teaching them. Harsh I know.

The mods can still delete the obvious such as spam and first post trolls though.



I always thought it did the opposite, users would see it and think they got away with it because they didn't see them get warned about it in PM or get told to knock it off through PM so they would assume it must be okay behavior.

The con part of removing posts is it makes it look like they were banned for no reason.


Well, warn them about it in the open then.



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19 Nov 2014, 4:26 pm

How does Alex pick new users for mod positions? What's that process like?


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19 Nov 2014, 7:43 pm

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How does Alex pick new users for mod positions? What's that process like?


The current mods just choose users based on their posts and then refer to Alex to decide if they're good candidates. However, if you ask to be a moderator then you're automatically disqualified. I got a PM from Tallyman saying that they picked me to become a mod about a year ago but I declined it, saying that I had limited time, so obviously I didn't become one.



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19 Nov 2014, 10:21 pm

i also heard that he (Alex) hand-picks potential mods himself. i can't believe everything i hear - had this ever happened as well?

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Ah, I see. Then it's just three; puddingmouse, Who_Am_I and XFilesGeek


i haven't seen puddingmouse around here :hmph:

all of the current moderators don't have the green mod badge (just the greening) of the name, and some that have retired or left the site altogether do. i don't know why it's inconsistent, then again only the Almighty Alex has those powers.
i get why it causes confusion.


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20 Nov 2014, 3:22 am

Kiprobalhato wrote:
i haven't seen puddingmouse around here :hmph:

She's around, but not the most frequent poster.


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all of the current moderators don't have the green mod badge (just the greening) of the name, and some that have retired or left the site altogether do. i don't know why it's inconsistent

Yeah, it causes confusion. I don't know why their group setting isn't changed.


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20 Nov 2014, 5:38 am

Jono wrote:
nyxjord wrote:
How does Alex pick new users for mod positions? What's that process like?


The current mods just choose users based on their posts and then refer to Alex to decide if they're good candidates. However, if you ask to be a moderator then you're automatically disqualified. I got a PM from Tallyman saying that they picked me to become a mod about a year ago but I declined it, saying that I had limited time, so obviously I didn't become one.


That reminds me. I think I jokingly nominated myself for moderator once and Alex took me seriously, hence him rubbing my name out as a potential candidate :P

Not that I could do it anyway. My approach to people wouldn't be the most sensitive.



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20 Nov 2014, 11:06 am

blue_bean wrote:
Jono wrote:
nyxjord wrote:
How does Alex pick new users for mod positions? What's that process like?


The current mods just choose users based on their posts and then refer to Alex to decide if they're good candidates. However, if you ask to be a moderator then you're automatically disqualified. I got a PM from Tallyman saying that they picked me to become a mod about a year ago but I declined it, saying that I had limited time, so obviously I didn't become one.


That reminds me. I think I jokingly nominated myself for moderator once and Alex took me seriously, hence him rubbing my name out as a potential candidate :P

Not that I could do it anyway. My approach to people wouldn't be the most sensitive.



I thought you were serious and then I forgot about that thread. hat was four years ago wasn't it?

My humor has been taken seriously too on here and rubbed people the wrong way. I remember the time when Hopegrows took one of my jokes seriously when I said she had an aspie fetish or when I joked if the adult autism issues was her new section for giving advice. I had nothing against her and meant nothing personal by it but she was that paranoid. I did like her but then I lost respect for her for how she treated me and decided to believe my April Fool joke and use it against me.


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20 Nov 2014, 11:48 am

I don't know, but its not good.