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04 May 2016, 8:27 pm

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Need a place where men can talk without women coming in and calling use sexist, misogynist entitled pigs all the time. Where we can get actual support and help.

Help for sexist, misogynist, entitlist, piggish posts? No way in Hell should that be allowed to happen.

Because in your mind and others. Disagreeing or complaining about women equals sexist.mwomen are all just wonderful people who can never be wrong or do anything wrong. All bow before the might women as our gods. Men however are horrible and complaining or hating them is righteous and great.

Your sarcasm is noted. However, you have mis-judged me. I too have complaints against women in general, and I have similar complaints against men in general. But my complaints are not important enough to inflict on others just to get their reactions.

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04 May 2016, 8:37 pm

Fnord wrote:

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Fnord wrote:

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Need a place where men can talk without women coming in and calling use sexist, misogynist entitled pigs all the time. Where we can get actual support and help.

Help for sexist, misogynist, entitlist, piggish posts? No way in Hell should that be allowed to happen.

I, not inflicting on others.
I don't do stuff for attention. It's unhealthy to keep feelings all pent up.
I come here to get them out and maybe support. From a support forum how bizarre a concept.

Please keep,on topic
Do you have reasons why men should not be treated equal and have a men's forum same as women do?

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04 May 2016, 9:49 pm

I think that in the interest of equality, the women's forum should be eliminated. But that's just my opinion. This website may not be perfect, but it's likely the best we'll ever see for people like us.

Let Alex decide what he wants for his website - it isn't as if we own any part of it, anyway. We're here at his pleasure, and we could just as easily be banned at his pleasure, too.

So why don't you start your own "No Women Allowed" website?

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04 May 2016, 10:13 pm

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@ sly279 I seem to recall you only getting that kind of response after uncalled for sexist posting, blaming women in general for your lack of success in dating.

And then you put words in others' mouths, saying that they said things which they did not. I can't recall anyone saying that you were a "sexist, misogynist, entitled pig," nor suggesting that you are a "ticking time bomb" likely to begin a mass shooting.

But considering that you started threads where you ranted against women for being too picky, suggested that it was their fault for not dating you, and then mentioned in another that humanity should be mostly killed off by a "plaque," what do you expect people to think about you?

Writing nasty and sexist posts is not going to win you friends.

Because you hate me and won't care or beleive anything I say and ignore all bad things said against me
Just leave me alone. I get it you hate me and dislike most men here. We get it we get it. Stop making my life here hell.

Also you claim no one called me sexist then call me sexist by accusing me of making sexist remarks. Just because you offended by something doesn't make it sexist.

Ridiculous. I don't hate most men on here. In fact, I think the only man I've really had a problem with is you, because I've called you on your b.s. remarks.

You did make sexist remarks. That's actually not the same thing as calling you sexist.

You make your own life here hell by whining all the time about your problems, then lashing out at entire groups of people because of your own failures (including people who have tried to help you), then ignoring any advice that anyone gives you about how to change.

It's really easy to just claim that someone who disagrees with you "hates you," and that it's the world's fault that you have problems, and that it's women's fault for being too picky to date you, rather than to accept the fact that you might actually be at fault.

I could very easily provide examples of sexist remarks that you have made, if it wasn't considered to be "cross-posting." I'm sure you couldn't find any examples of me stating that I "hate men" though. In fact, I have frequently gotten into arguments with women here defending men, because I didn't like the idea of a women's forum, and because I didn't like some things that I thought were sexist against men.

I don't think that there should be either a women's or a men's forum, and there especially should not be forums specifically for the purpose of bashing another gender without interference.

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05 May 2016, 12:37 am

Fnord wrote:

I think that in the interest of equality, the women's forum should be eliminated. But that's just my opinion. This website may not be perfect, but it's likely the best we'll ever see for people like us.

Let Alex decide what he wants for his website - it isn't as if we own any part of it, anyway. We're here at his pleasure, and we could just as easily be banned at his pleasure, too.

So why don't you start your own "No Women Allowed" website?

Why would I want s whole website where women aren't allow. Counter to yours and others beliefs I don't hate women. I like women a lot perhaps why I get so angry thst none of them will give me a chance.

I'd just like a safe place for men as there is for women on here.

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05 May 2016, 5:59 am

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... I'd just like a safe place for men as there is for women on here.

A safe place to hide or a safe place to be mean?

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05 May 2016, 1:20 pm

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... I'd just like a safe place for men as there is for women on here.

A safe place to hide or a safe place to be mean?

Mean is in the eyes of the beholder. I've found many things you say to be mean, I bet you didn't think so. Some women here are so quick to label any thing as sexist. Men need a place to get away from that. We should be able to complain about women as they complain about men. Holding in emotions isn't good. The plus side is as those women wouldn't really be reading it they wouldn't get a chance to be offended by word use or someone complaining about other women who aren't them but take it personal anyways. Win win

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05 May 2016, 1:46 pm

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... I'd just like a safe place for men as there is for women on here.

A safe place to hide or a safe place to be mean?

Yes, because the women's discussion is all complaining about men, not discussion about periods and bras and social issues with other women and stuff to do with autism and sensory issues and all that. All we do in that section is complain about men. You're totally right. That's why we all get warnings all the time from the mods, because of how much we complain about men in the women's section and say sexist things about them. I'm amazed all the women haven't been banned off the site, for how much we talk sexist BS and make crap generalisations about all men all the time. :roll:

You have a very active imagination, I'll give you that. Delusional, but active.

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05 May 2016, 1:51 pm

sly279 wrote:

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... I'd just like a safe place for men as there is for women on here.

A safe place to hide or a safe place to be mean?

Men comment in the women's forum all the time. I would definitely be reading the men's forum. :mrgreen:

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05 May 2016, 2:52 pm

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... I'd just like a safe place for men as there is for women on here.

A safe place to hide or a safe place to be mean?

I hardly ever complain about men in real life, let alone in a forum. I have no reason to complain about men here, I don't have a problem with most men here, and I don't really see women complaining about men in general here.

Things which are sexist get labeled as sexist. If one posts those things, one should expect to get called on it. Adults should have the maturity to deal with the consequences of their words and actions.

Perhaps those men who are always feeling that they are falsely accused of being sexist ought to look up the definition in the dictionary, then go back and reread the posts which were accused of being sexist.

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05 May 2016, 2:55 pm

Maybe men should be prohibited from posting in the women's forum.

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05 May 2016, 3:13 pm

^ I suspect that it would cause resentment. I'm not sure there even is a good solution to this. I don't often post in the women's forum, but I usually don't mind if men post in a respectful way. I don't feel a need to keep men from posting there.

I think that there are many women who feel differently, however, and would want the women's forum to only allow women to post.

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05 May 2016, 3:26 pm

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I feel the same--men should be allowed to post there, as long as they can do so respectfully and contribute to the conversation productively. Most of them seem to be able to do that with no trouble.

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05 May 2016, 3:28 pm

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Maybe men should be prohibited from posting in the women's forum.

Segregation is not the answer, its regressive and will only reinforce prejudice.

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05 May 2016, 3:59 pm

nurseangela wrote:

sly279 wrote:

Fnord wrote:

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... I'd just like a safe place for men as there is for women on here.

A safe place to hide or a safe place to be mean?

Men comment in the women's forum all the time. I would definitely be reading the men's forum. :mrgreen:

Yes but there's much stricter rules to them posting. I imagine same would be for the men's forum.

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05 May 2016, 4:03 pm

alex wrote:

Maybe men should be prohibited from posting in the women's forum.

I don't think there's been much of a problem with men posting there besides one or two women who feel unsafe with men being allowed there, probably based on past treatment off wp.

Curious why such a reaction to men wanting a men's forum?

It'd be nice to have a place to talk about the stereotype society places on us, fsiling to live up to being a real man or body issues that I don't feel comfortable talking about around women.

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