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05 Oct 2013, 7:33 pm

lost has a point that this thread is a little pointless if nothing is being changed on this site, basically ever.



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05 Oct 2013, 7:34 pm

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What's the point of this thread then?
In relation to this version of the software? None. No point whatever.
It is not being actively developed so repeating requests to try things out with it will not happen - for the reasons already given.


There's really no point to this thread then.

Alex is just going to do what he wants to.

Maybe if enough people spoke up things would be different but that's always a losing battle.



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05 Oct 2013, 7:40 pm

Quoting the OP:

Moog wrote:
There's no guarantee that suggestions will be implemented by alex, but it makes sense to me to create a unified thread in which to put site improvement suggestions. It's less likely to be lost off the bottom of the page for ever if you post it here.


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05 Oct 2013, 7:42 pm

So who are you guys to tell me that it isn't appropriate? Do you and the mods have say in these issues?



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05 Oct 2013, 7:44 pm

Making the suggestion is perfectly reasonable. Sitting here arguing over it for 2+ pages now is not.

Like I said before - everyone has already made their points. It either will be implemented or it won't - and nothing said from this point out will make any difference in that determination.


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05 Oct 2013, 7:45 pm

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So who are you guys to tell me that it isn't appropriate? Do you and the mods have say in these issues?
*facepalm*

I'm done.


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05 Oct 2013, 7:48 pm

I was just curious.



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05 Oct 2013, 9:06 pm

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I was just curious.


That's air enough, but arguing over three pages, being disrespectful to an admin who is more knowledgable than you on this topic, and rallying other users to "petition" (i.e. argue even more and get aggressive about it) is taking things way, way too far. This is ridiculous. Just stop this, and get rid of the signature. :x



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05 Oct 2013, 9:24 pm

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I was just curious.


That's air enough, but arguing over three pages, being disrespectful to an admin who is more knowledgable than you on this topic, and rallying other users to "petition" (i.e. argue even more and get aggressive about it) is taking things way, way too far. This is ridiculous. Just stop this, and get rid of the signature. :x


1. Other people argued with me; it takes 2 to tango.

2. How is an admin more knowledgeable whether or not a "like" button would benefit this site? Those are pure opinions.

3. I'm not starting any war, I'm just trying to help spread the word for people that want a "like" button. It's not just me.

4. I didn't mean to be disrespectful to cornflake or anybody; cornflake has done nothing but help me out in the past and I appreciate their services to this site.



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05 Oct 2013, 10:28 pm

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Aside from the option to " like" or "thank" posts, I've thought of a couple more upgrades.

1. Have a regional forum ( I.E. United States, Europe, Canada, Asia, Africa, etc.) for meet ups.


Already been done.

:arrow: Regional Meetup & Networking Thread Index



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05 Oct 2013, 11:42 pm

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Also the fact that it has the potential to turn wrongplanet.net into a popularity contest. A lot of people on here do not have great social skills and are not interested in "making friends" as such. How would the new poster feel if they posted a topic or comment with no likes as opposed to a long term poster that has posted an arbitrary comment with 100+ likes? I personally think this alone would not be in the best interest of a forum like this one that is based around people with a social disorder.


I think you are being way overly cynical of the members of this forum. I think most people here are decent and would spread the "likes" around, and would not use it as a popularity contest. It is just an easy way of giving positive feedback to a poster, without having to actually reply to their post.

I wouldn't expect to see many posts here getting 100+ likes. I think the average would be more like 5 or 10 likes per post. But there are ways of making sure that that it doesn't become a popularity contest. Many forums make you spread the "likes" around. If you try to like the same poster's post multiple times in a row, you get a pop up telling you that you must first give a "like" to someone else's post. Maybe you can only like the same poster's post 1 in 5 or 1 in 10 times. Personally I don't like those types of rules, and I would hope that restrictions like that would not be necessary.



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06 Oct 2013, 12:37 am

lost561 wrote:
Kuribo wrote:
lost561 wrote:
I was just curious.


That's air enough, but arguing over three pages, being disrespectful to an admin who is more knowledgable than you on this topic, and rallying other users to "petition" (i.e. argue even more and get aggressive about it) is taking things way, way too far. This is ridiculous. Just stop this, and get rid of the signature. :x


1. Other people argued with me; it takes 2 to tango.

2. How is an admin more knowledgeable whether or not a "like" button would benefit this site? Those are pure opinions.

3. I'm not starting any war, I'm just trying to help spread the word for people that want a "like" button. It's not just me.

4. I didn't mean to be disrespectful to cornflake or anybody; cornflake has done nothing but help me out in the past and I appreciate their services to this site.


Wait a sec, stop, everyone hold it... There's more than one Cornflake - Why was I not told of this, what sorcery is this...

In other news, that signature... :lol:; you must be joking. You've got no idea, none at all how much coding that would take to implement into a PHP 4 Codebase.


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06 Oct 2013, 1:17 am

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^ Yep, this exactly.
Raised several times already but I'm getting the impression that any social site needs to run like Facebook these days...
But this isn't Facebook and the target audience is entirely different. That can't simply be ignored.


I wish everyone could forget about Facebook. I don't think anyone is proposing anything like Facebook. No wants to see a "Like" (thumb-up) "Unlike" (thumbs-down) button added to WP. That would be a very, very, very bad idea. It would obviously not be appropriate for a site like WP. We only want a way of leaving some positive feedback on someones post.

Here is a type of system that I think would work excellent on WP. No negativity, no reputation given, just a simple list of people who liked the post.

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06 Oct 2013, 1:52 am

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What's the point of this thread then?


Pretty much the point of this thread is for members to talk to themselves. :lol:

The best as I can tell in the ten year history of WP, the owner has made one noticeable change to the site. That was in 2007 when he moved the menu bar from the side to the top of the page. Today the site is just as it was in 2007.

Thats the difference between an autistic web developer and a neurotypical web developer. The NT web developer wants to tear his site down and rebuild it every week. He rewrites all the code, fixes things a hundred times that weren't even broken to begin with, keeping the site users constantly confused as to what is even going on.

The autistic web developer, on the other hand... Well, if he changes one thing on the site every ten years, thats it. Thats more change then he can handle. :)



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06 Oct 2013, 6:44 am

Solvejg wrote:
Also the fact that it has the potential to turn wrongplanet.net into a popularity contest. A lot of people on here do not have great social skills and are not interested in "making friends" as such. How would the new poster feel if they posted a topic or comment with no likes as opposed to a long term poster that has posted an arbitrary comment with 100+ likes? I personally think this alone would not be in the best interest of a forum like this one that is based around people with a social disorder.


Agreed.

Trying to get a loose collective of people, who are already a minority (often feeling so on a completely individual level), into participating (by its very existence) in something that even encourages a majority is, well, a bad idea in my book.

I think so many people here, myself included, have to work hard at conformity in everyday life - something that promotes conformists thinking surely isn't the way to go.



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06 Oct 2013, 7:21 am

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We only want a way of leaving some positive feedback on someones post.
And leaving no feedback is practically guaranteed to be seen as a negative vote, amongst those positives. "I never get thanked for my posts. Huh, this place is just like real life with the cliques and popular people".
That sort of thing actually happens now, and adding a "like" button so that some posters accumulate popularity badges consisting of blocks of "likers" is a sure and certain way of shoving the popularity contest aspect in someone's face.
It's more likely to be intimidating than to "encourage" people to post more - especially new members, who are often nervous about posting at all.

I don't agree that clicking a button to accumulate "popularity points" (and that's all they are) has any value over saying how a post was good, or appreciated, or clever. It's lazy and negates the reason for having threads: communication. Is it really so much trouble to comment in person that a button needs to be added?
So to turn the request into a question "How do we leave some positive feedback on someone's post?", the answer already exists: you tell them.


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