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07 Oct 2013, 8:15 pm

We should have a sub forum called "the dungeon" for all the locked threads to go into.

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07 Oct 2013, 8:32 pm

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We should have a sub forum called "the dungeon" for all the locked threads to go into.

We should not. Locked threads are simply read-only. They still contain a purpose or whatever, just because they are closed doesn't mean they are no longer relavent.

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07 Oct 2013, 9:22 pm

bcousins wrote:

lost561 wrote:

We should have a sub forum called "the dungeon" for all the locked threads to go into.

We should not. Locked threads are simply read-only. They still contain a purpose or whatever, just because they are closed doesn't mean they are no longer relavent.

That's the whole point.. Threads get locked because people get into arguments and the thread gets off topic. There should be a place where people can go to see all of the arguments because the threads are no longer useful.. That's why they get locked in the first place.

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08 Oct 2013, 1:34 pm

I have a better idea: the people responsible for getting the threads locked can get sent to the dungeon and the threads can stay where they are. :wink:

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08 Oct 2013, 2:44 pm

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I have a better idea: the people responsible for getting the threads locked can get sent to the dungeon and the threads can stay where they are.

That's not the best idea. Now your asking the moderators to be judges like there is a justice system involved with wrongplanet. That's a terrible idea that would reak of favoritism.

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08 Oct 2013, 2:55 pm

lost561 wrote:

FMX wrote:

I have a better idea: the people responsible for getting the threads locked can get sent to the dungeon and the threads can stay where they are.

That's not the best idea. Now your asking the moderators to be judges like there is a justice system involved with wrongplanet. That's a terrible idea that would reak of favoritism.

Possibly, but how would this be any different from now? It would be the same, only with an added twist. After all, it wouldn't be so bad hanging out with fellow dungeon dwellers. We could all e-fight each other :lol:

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08 Oct 2013, 7:44 pm

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You can't speak for everyone or generalize about Autism in such a way, and you'd be surprised how many people want to be accepted or have their opinions validated. Ever gone to Haven, L&D, Members Only? Prime examples right there.

Imagine say, I disagree with you on this, and I happened to have a lot of friends who liked the post for no other reason than because I'm disagreeing with you specifically, or because they're my friend. Wouldn't this bother you? Wouldn't you then proceed to point out the flaw in the very system you support because it isn't favoring you? I think my point is clear with this. I see this happen in other forums, a lot. The very things you say won't happen, are the most likely things to happen. Believe it or not we are human and fallible.

No that wouldn't bother me one bit. Nothing in an internet forum bothers me.

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I'm aware that the software used on WP is perhaps antiquated but I think your reasoning is at best disingenuous. How long does it really take to write "I agree."? I could hit quote, type that and submit in the space of 10 seconds. It's not much more inconvenient than clicking a button once or twice, unless you have ADHD.

How many seconds it takes is irrelevant. The point is why not make it as easy as possible to give positive feedback to a poster? How does it hurt the site to make it possible to give positive encouragement with just one click of a button?

And again the benefit to the forum, is that it compacts all of those positive responses into one place with out lengthening the thread.

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08 Oct 2013, 8:09 pm

bcousins wrote:

lost561 wrote:

We should have a sub forum called "the dungeon" for all the locked threads to go into.

We should not. Locked threads are simply read-only. They still contain a purpose or whatever, just because they are closed doesn't mean they are no longer relavent.

A few older forums I used to post on had something like that. Instead of threads being locked, they were moved to the "dungeon" (it was mostly done because of trolling). Where the trolls could continue their tit for tats indefinitely. Even though few people would actually read it.

On the plus side, it allows the conversation to continue for those who wish to continue. One of the things I really hate, is if I get attacked in a thread, the thread gets locked, and I can't even respond the the attack. This is not really a problem on WP.

I agree though, that it would be bad for WP.

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08 Oct 2013, 8:47 pm

Max000 wrote:

bcousins wrote:

lost561 wrote:

We should have a sub forum called "the dungeon" for all the locked threads to go into.

We should not. Locked threads are simply read-only. They still contain a purpose or whatever, just because they are closed doesn't mean they are no longer relavent.

This probably would be bad for the site.

I help to run a forum with a similar system in place. All spammers and serious trolls are confined to this forum. I understand that posting garbage can be a form of stress relief for some, so I try to allow them to do this whole protecting others from it. In some cases, it works, but of course, that defeats the purpose for some...

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08 Oct 2013, 9:07 pm

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I still think the threads should be locked just have all the locked threads moved into a section so everybody can read them. Because a lot of the locked threads are entertaining, don't you think?

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08 Oct 2013, 10:12 pm

lost561 wrote:

Max000 wrote:

bcousins wrote:

lost561 wrote:

We should have a sub forum called "the dungeon" for all the locked threads to go into.

We should not. Locked threads are simply read-only. They still contain a purpose or whatever, just because they are closed doesn't mean they are no longer relavent.

I still think the threads should be locked just have all the locked threads moved into a section so everybody can read them. Because a lot of the locked threads are entertaining, don't you think?

But then they would be all mixed up together in this "dungeon", instead of in their correct forum where people could find them.

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08 Oct 2013, 10:42 pm

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But then they would be all mixed up together in this "dungeon", instead of in their correct forum where people could find them.

Since they get locked they die out and never get brought back up anyway. Don't you think it would be entertaining to just be able to read peoples arguments?

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09 Oct 2013, 4:36 am

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No that wouldn't bother me one bit. Nothing in an internet forum bothers me.

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How many seconds it takes is irrelevant. The point is why not make it as easy as possible to give positive feedback to a poster? How does it hurt the site to make it possible to give positive encouragement with just one click of a button?

And again the benefit to the forum, is that it compacts all of those positive responses into one place with out lengthening the thread.

1) WP is greater than 75,000 members. You are only speaking about how a new feature would affect you. Alex and the team have to consider the greater good, which is a comfort zone for the majority of that 75,000+. Creating an environment where popularity and soundbytes, style are king is not ideal. This sort of environment is like high school, which can be a very traumatic experience for AS and Autistic people, and in a lot of cases it's an experience they can never put behind them. Why bring it here, to a place that is meant to support them and encourage support? Just because you and I learnt to swim with the sharks and handle criticism and people liking rival opinions over ours doesn't mean everyone else is as ready to accept.

2) Your 2nd counter argument does not address my concern about quality control. If someone isn't able to offer decent forum etiquette because it isn't "convenient enough" then one must wonder why they bother with a forum in the first place. Yes, there is a risk of some threads becoming an ocean of "agree/disagree" posts. But if I may, can you point me to any thread in particular where it's become endemic? And even if you apply a like system, what's to stop people making these "agree/disagree" posts anyway? Having polls doesn't stop people posting about the answer they picked and why, does it?

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09 Oct 2013, 6:15 am

lost561 wrote:

I still think the threads should be locked just have all the locked threads moved into a section so everybody can read them. Because a lot of the locked threads are entertaining, don't you think?

No.
You should also read the site rules, especially with reference to the discussion of locked topics.

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09 Oct 2013, 6:15 am

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On the plus side, it allows the conversation to continue for those who wish to continue.

There is no plus side to allowing what caused the thread to be locked to continue.

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09 Oct 2013, 8:28 am

Cornflake wrote:

lost561 wrote:

I still think the threads should be locked just have all the locked threads moved into a section so everybody can read them. Because a lot of the locked threads are entertaining, don't you think?

No.
You should also read the site rules, especially with reference to the discussion of locked topics.

People can still access and read the locked threads either way, why not just make it easier and give the locked threads their own section? What will that do to hurt the site and how will that change anything? Other forums do this.

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