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26 Aug 2020, 10:20 am

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Fnord, were you selected as mod?
Nominations have occurred, but selection/notification has not.


So i take you were nominated?


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26 Aug 2020, 10:21 am

League_Girl wrote:
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Fnord, were you selected as mod?
color=black]Nominations have occurred, but selection/notification has not.[/color]
So i take you were nominated?
So have I been told ... like I implied, I don't expect to be notified of selection.



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26 Aug 2020, 10:25 am

Far as I know, a shortlist of 5 was handed to Alex. Dont know if all were supposed to be made mods, or if there was to be further selection. 3/5 have now retracted their offer. I'm prepared to retract my retraction, but I will not moderate under the absurd guidelines put forward by Alex.


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26 Aug 2020, 10:30 am

I'm okay with Alex's guidelines, but he's not exactly forcing the mods to follow them to the letter, right?



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26 Aug 2020, 10:40 am

I don't know, I've never been a mod. But I presume they're supposed to be followed.


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26 Aug 2020, 10:42 am

I was actually walking two feet from the Woods today.....



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26 Aug 2020, 10:44 am

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the absurd guidelines put forward by Alex.


What exactly are the absurd guidelines? How do they deviate from the site rules?


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26 Aug 2020, 10:49 am

Wolfram87 wrote:
Far as I know, a shortlist of 5 was handed to Alex. Dont know if all were supposed to be made mods, or if there was to be further selection. 3/5 have now retracted their offer. I'm prepared to retract my retraction, but I will not moderate under the absurd guidelines put forward by Alex.

The suggestion I made to Alex was that he should initially select two or three from the shortlist of five (with those five being selected by the mods from a longlist of about ten who one way or another had agreed to hold the role). That left room for him rejecting some candidates or people withdrawing.

So of that list of five, only two remain. Fortunately some of the longlist were omitted from the shortlist on basically arbitrary grounds, so there are still a few contenders to select from. I'm also hoping that the former mod who has requested back in is still up for it.



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26 Aug 2020, 10:53 am

I will always be a lone Wolf in the Woods :P



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26 Aug 2020, 10:54 am

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I don't know, I've never been a mod. But I presume they're supposed to be followed.
I've been a mod (to a now-defunct website), and we were told that while The Rules were to be enforced, we were to use our own judgement as to when compassionate leniency was needed -- a person despondent over a personal loss and "drunk-posting" their hatred of the world might be treated better than the average troll who logs on looking for a fight.



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26 Aug 2020, 10:54 am

'Thoughts From All of Life's Fires'; Didn't wanna
Make a Separate Topic For the Same General one here:

Sticks And Stones; Real Bombs and Stuff like that
Are Really All that Break my Bones;
But Not Everyone
Is made of Steel;
Superman, all those
Other Metaphors for
Folks Who Persevere through
All Fires of Life as they come and go...

Obviously, Alex is saying 'BLACK LIVES
MATTER' AND HE MEANS IT ALL THE WAY.

i have enough 'Cognitive Empathy' to understand
What Folks are 'really' Trying to Say when they come aboard this site.

It's a Nuisance to See Some of 'the Propaganda', Associated with
'Other Lives Matter' But for Now a Dude Got Shot 7 Times in the
Back and Folks Are Still taking Notice; Alex is Leaving no Room
For Anything But BLACK LIVES MATTER; it seems plain to see;
And he was also Clear if the Person is NOT RACIST
they may make their Case
to the Moderators
if they are
inappropriately
identified as such;
True; it's a Tough Rule
But What He's Saying
Is BLACK LIVES MATTER
HERE FOR REAL; if anything
else is intimated; Go somewhere else.

It's His Toy; one day if he decides to take
All the Marbles and go Hike somewhere
Else; he surely will; When Something is
Free; There will always be a Cost somewhere;
Just Don't Act Racist and if You Are not and
someone calls You Racist, Defend Who You are;
i don't see that as too much of a Human Responsibility to achieve;

But that's Just from
my Restricted

View;

Yes, it may
'Mean' some folks
Will be Incorrectly
identified; but in this
Case the Owner Rules His
Territory and We Either Follow
the Rules at Hand as they change or go away...

In my Life; i've learned to deal with Much inconvenience;

i suggest Climbing The Mountain through all the Obstacles that come and go...

Do i suggest, Becoming A Moderator

In this Environment:

No.

Thats Why i take it as it comes and
goes; i'm not willing to do the Job;
Same as i Look at Politics at the Top;
i'm not willing to do that Job either; but
someone has to do it; and that's why Often We don't
Have Great People in Charge (in General in Life); they find better ways to Serve...


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26 Aug 2020, 10:56 am

I'm talking about the thing about "claims of racism are never false and don't need to be justified", the expansion of what a racist slur is to include things that are demonstrably not racist slurs, plus the whole "someone who calls you a racist knows your mind better than you do, so prostrate yourself before your woke betters".


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26 Aug 2020, 11:10 am

jimmy m wrote:
Wolfram87 wrote:
the absurd guidelines put forward by Alex.


What exactly are the absurd guidelines? How do they deviate from the site rules?



These were the "absurd" guidelines.

viewtopic.php?t=389905


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26 Aug 2020, 11:14 am

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Wolfram87 wrote:
Far as I know, a shortlist of 5 was handed to Alex. Dont know if all were supposed to be made mods, or if there was to be further selection. 3/5 have now retracted their offer. I'm prepared to retract my retraction, but I will not moderate under the absurd guidelines put forward by Alex.

The suggestion I made to Alex was that he should initially select two or three from the shortlist of five (with those five being selected by the mods from a longlist of about ten who one way or another had agreed to hold the role). That left room for him rejecting some candidates or people withdrawing.

So of that list of five, only two remain. Fortunately some of the longlist were omitted from the shortlist on basically arbitrary grounds, so there are still a few contenders to select from. I'm also hoping that the former mod who has requested back in is still up for it.


Or more members get selected as new mods.

Or how about we have a army of mods, we used to have a bunch of them at once back in the day.


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26 Aug 2020, 11:40 am

League_Girl wrote:
jimmy m wrote:
Wolfram87 wrote:
the absurd guidelines put forward by Alex.
What exactly are the absurd guidelines? How do they deviate from the site rules?
These were the "absurd" guidelines.
viewtopic.php?t=389905
I see nothing absurd about them, but someone who would be offended for having their racist perspective and opinions called out might consider them absurd or even label them as "Snowflake Rules" to discredit them.

If calling out racism is made against The Rules, then racism will rise up and dominate this website unchallenged.



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26 Aug 2020, 11:44 am

Wolfram87 wrote:
I'm talking about the thing about "claims of racism are never false and don't need to be justified", the expansion of what a racist slur is to include things that are demonstrably not racist slurs, plus the whole "someone who calls you a racist knows your mind better than you do, so prostrate yourself before your woke betters".



Surely, not the way i would Handle 'the Situation'.

But on the Other Hand; it wouldn't bother me anymore
if someone Called me Racist than all the other 'Ableist Names'
Folks have attempted to identify me with here as far as making
'Schizophrenia' into a Pejorative that way; yep i can name Names
and Probably Find the Quotes too; or Suggesting i need another Excuse
But Being 'Bi-Polar' for the Way i Write Free Verse Poetry that indeed was
very ableist and Happened recently enough where i've already Provided
the Truth and Evidence
that that Ableism
and Attempt at Bullying
Really Did Occur Here then
too; Particularly, indeed, because
i DO HAVE A Co-Morbid Condition of
Bi-Polar Disorder all my Life; and God Yes,
it's definitely a Plus that condition is considered
Scientifically Associated With Great Feats of Human
Creativity; Recently Higher IQ, too; and indeed in terms
of Science; Folks with Higher IQ will Navigate the 'Hypo-Frontality'
And Lower Inhibition of the 'Default System' of the Human Mind better that
Does not Filter Out Feelings and Senses of the Environment that so-called
'Normal' Folks don't have to Deal with in their Life; Surely, some relationship
there with the Sensory Difficulties associated, Generally, with some Autistic
Folks and Extreme Affective Empathy too; But not all; as some are rather Numb inside
this way on the opposite end of that Spectrum too; Yes, i do Spock and Van-Gogh Now
Too; But According to My Doctors and Psychotherapist, at Least, i do a Magnificent Job
of Making it through all the Fires of Life associated with the functional Difficulties
All Naturally With Nothing in Pill Form to Numb my Creativity in all ways Now
that Naturally come
From Both Conditions
too; i would never call
A Person Any Label
at all; for i
understand
that Labels
are Labels
And it is what
We aRe Doing with
Our Life; this Gift; this
Moment Now that is really
All that counts; Work Hard Enough
to Dance A Tight Rope; You Don't Fall
Off; Do Not Work hard enough and You Fall.

The Situation here; is nothing to me; for i will Never be a Label or Name.

On the Other Hand; Not everyone will be 'Superman' This way and that
is why i would not have Handled the situation this way; but i personally
Can/Will Deal With it; as i've already Dealt with the other BS, ironically ever
Since i was Really Mentally Ill; Not able to actually Feel Oxytocin for 66 Months.

That's Not a 'Mental
Illness'; but it really is;
Science just hasn't found
the time and effort to Label it, Specifically;
For me at least it felt like an Illness of Having no Soul;

But i had
a Reference
point back to Heaven;
couldn't feel it; but i had
A Shell of a Memory as i used to live there too.

Anyway, when i heard that Comment that 'what
was my Excuse' for Writing Free Verse Poetry the way i do beyond 'Bi-Polar' too;
i found it Cringe Worthy and Lacking Human Empathy and i understood that condition too...

And That's why, Some Folks Here, also have no Clue they Are Being Racist; They Probably have no idea they are...

In this Case;
They need the
Time and Effort
Required to Explain
to them Why, What they
are Doing is Racist; Not unlike
Someone who makes an Ableist
Comment Derogatory; And Yeah
Dude it was like Your Attempt to
Insult my Intelligence By Suggesting
i didn't Know how to Spell the Urban
Dictionary Word 'Capice' as i was using it
as Slang; Just as Dry Humor; and actually
Agreeing with you on the issue we were discussing overall;

Welcome to the World of Autism; We Have to be much More
Patient to understand each other; but that is inherent to the Condition.

A 'Neurotypical' Moderator's Input into this Site will indeed be Beneficial this way...

Are Mistakes gonna happen; of course; but we must have Much Room For Flexibility;
Is it a Surprise When Alex Made the Rule All this way or the Highway; no, of course not;

It's More of a
Concrete Way
of Doing and
Seeing
Life;

Let's Have
Some Patience
With Him too;
as Remember
He is on
the
Spectrum too...


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