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I wouldn't ask embarrassing personal requests for assistance somewhere I'm well known - and I'm a man! The same should go for the ladies I'm afraid. 'Tis the way of the world.

Aw gee... who really cares..

I've done enough embarrassing things in my lifetime that one more would make no difference.

BTW: I think you're all (well, not everyone I suppose) being hard on Fiona.

The descriptions led her to believe something which wasn't true, naturally she's upset. You've made her leave WP now - which was a great way to welcome new guests (sigh)....

I still think we should get the description changed so that we don't have to go through this all again. Any ideas on what the replacement description could be - I expect my suggestions in this regard would suck royally...

BTW: Does anyone else feel like we have a "Crunchy Frog" here?





and....





ok... probably not.

UncleBeer; last time I saw, your name wasn't Alex Plank so I don't see how you can deny her request.

It seems to me there is still much male chauvinism in your attitude and certain other people's. This frightens and/or alienates females and that is why they wanted a place to discuss various concerns. I don't say anything not intended for consumption by either sex but other people feel differently and this should have been respected in the case of NZFiona.

Hey guys.

I asked MrMark and Alex yesterday if the description could be changed. Hopefully it will happen. This is not the first time that newcomers have been confused by that inaccuracy.

Thanks gwenevyn, sensitive and proactive as usual.

Very true where were the other mods to help with this oh well....

I think the forum should just go away altogether. It's pointless, in my opinion, if it's not to allow women a little more privacy to discuss woman-related topics and deal with issues they feel they cannot discuss with men. And since you say that's not it's intention, then what exactly is the point?

And what exactly are you implying about the OP? That her request that men not respond to her thread was due to her confusion? You asked for men to respect her request in that thread. Now you are not willing to follow through on your own request here, yet rather blame the OP for being mistaken that she could have that kind of respect here at WP.

This is shamelessly passive-aggressive on your part, and not surprisely, two other shamelessly passive-agressive members applaud you for it.

I don't blame the OP for leaving. I don't have the stomach for this sanctimonious WP bull**** either.

Shameless passive-agressive members ?

I dont applaud anybody for anything because i dont give a bull either life is to short to chat about petty things like this,

One of these is obviously me.
I have no idea what you're saying - which is probably a good thing anyway.

My point was simply...

1. A problem was raised for which there were various solutions available.
2. Nobody did anything - resulting in loss of a member
3. gwenevyn did something which reduces the potential for the problem to recur.
4. I congratulated gwenevyn on doing something to fix a problem which would otherwise have been ignored.

and that's passive aggressive?

oh whatever.

Im guessing its me and you

The forum could have worked if mods had promptly deleted all posts made by men. Eventually they would have gotten the message.

But creating a space on this board safe from the pea-soup thick misogyny isn't unlike the Slaughterhouse Five metaphor... you might as well try to make an anti-glacier forum. Carry on with the burqa images .

Wow. You're angry? I'm sorry that I don't see what there is to be angry about.

I've only been a mod for a couple months. The women's forum has undergone some changes since its creation, to my understanding. It has not always been clear what the rules are, or what purpose it serves. I do not know the reasons that the admins had in mind for making that forum, so I can't answer that for you. I've already stated many times that in my personal opinion the women's forum isn't necessary here. I will uphold what I am told to do, regarding that forum, but I couldn't just go deleting posts when there seemed to be some discrepancies between the written and de facto rules. I think it was better to be cautious and look into the matter before acting.

To answer your other accusation, I certainly meant no harm or insult in saying that someone was confused through no fault of her own. I myself was confused about what it was for, when I joined. I thought that it was supposed to be for women only, and then I saw that the moderators were allowing men to post there. Even as a mod I have been confused about the expectations in that forum. This incident was a good opportunity to clarify those expectations. So I am not blaming her at all. Quite the opposite.

I believe nzfiona edited her thread title after some of the men responded. As all the responses from males in that particular thread were good-intentioned, I saw no reason to delete them. Some of the responses in this thread have been severely lacking in charity but it seems the members took it upon themselves to express their displeasure and I see no reason for further intervention.

What I have been told is that it is indeed okay for men to post in that forum. Blatantly inappropriate remarks will be removed and men will be discouraged from posting in threads that specifically request a female-only response.

MrMark kindly changed the forum description and if Alex has no objection to the change, it will remain that way.

I don't know why this is being pitted as a "women vs men" Big Picture debate. If someone says, "I don't want you posting on my threads" then why would you want to in the first place? It smacks of self-importance, belligerence and lack of self-restraint.

Frankly, some people have unfairly cut me off from posting with them. They name called, I complained to them and they told me to not post to them. If I were to respond to them I'd be unwelcome and probably cause the thread to digress in a negative way. Whether or not their request is fair, it's pointless for me to post with them.

Why is that so hard to understand? When Fiona first complained, why would the offenders keep complaining and keep posting???? To see your name in print?

I don't see the need to ban men from reading a women's only forum, (it would be too techically difficult to pull off anyways) but I think it's only polite to respect a person's request to refrain from posting where you're not wanted.

of course not... we want to get our posts up so we can change the description

I posted the first response before she said Women only (so I have an excuse). The others probably didn't read her response to mine.

That's understandable because one thread I remember asked people if they read everything and a lot of people said they read the first one only then hit reply.

You can see the thread in question here: http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt52549.html

It really wasn't so bad as all that. Men posted in the thread with legitimate comments, not realizing they were not supposed to do so. After the OP asked for them not to do so, a couple guys still posted but I don't think we should be too hard on them, seeing as they aren't used to being told where not to post.



Of course it would be polite to comply with such requests. But since WP is dedicated to people with AS I think we can routinely expect to have to help each other out and be patient with other members in regards to manners. It's just never going to be perfect and in a way that's good. I'm sorry that nzfiona was upset by all this though. The forum description really needed to be updated.

Hi, actually I came here in reply to the thread in question. I can understand the first replies-not knowing it was specifically for women. But fiona did change the title and did ask men to stop replying and some kept replying. That's what I'm specifically discussing. I'm also referring to the attitudes in this thread about burqas and posting where one feels entitled to.

I guess I don't see what is hard to understand about "don't post here".