06 Jun 2020, 2:42 am
The_Walrus wrote:
I think XFG’s post is probably the most sensible one a moderator could make right now.
Usually autistic white supremacists (or equivalent) aren’t very good at keeping it under their hat and get banned quite quickly. Allistic White supremacists often take a very different approach where they sanitise their beliefs as much as possible.
I think we have exactly one non-banned user on here who at one point made a habit of routinely posting far-right content. When challenged by WrongPlanet users he said he didn’t entirely agree (particularly with the outright racist bits) but he has since toned it back significantly.
There are also a couple of users who I think are better understood as grumpy rather than actually racist who might occasionally say something like “these people make me want to be a Nazi” or words to that effect. Again, don’t think those people are actually as far right as they might claim.
Oh and there’s Raptor of course
He’s not really around any more but he was an ordinary US Republican who got accused of being a Nazi a lot by our Democratic users (I should say this was when TallyMan ran the show before anyone jumps down my throat 
). In response to that, he started LARPing a lot, things like saying he used to be married to Eva Braun, or that you could tell he was a Nazi because of his support for tax cuts or whatever.
Usually autistic white supremacists (or equivalent) aren’t very good at keeping it under their hat and get banned quite quickly. Allistic White supremacists often take a very different approach where they sanitise their beliefs as much as possible.
I think we have exactly one non-banned user on here who at one point made a habit of routinely posting far-right content. When challenged by WrongPlanet users he said he didn’t entirely agree (particularly with the outright racist bits) but he has since toned it back significantly.
There are also a couple of users who I think are better understood as grumpy rather than actually racist who might occasionally say something like “these people make me want to be a Nazi” or words to that effect. Again, don’t think those people are actually as far right as they might claim.
Oh and there’s Raptor of course
He’s not really around any more but he was an ordinary US Republican who got accused of being a Nazi a lot by our Democratic users (I should say this was when TallyMan ran the show before anyone jumps down my throat ). In response to that, he started LARPing a lot, things like saying he used to be married to Eva Braun, or that you could tell he was a Nazi because of his support for tax cuts or whatever.Seriously?
Autistic Nazis/neo-Nazis?
You can see why I have a problem comprehending something like that?
Hitler would have had them sterilised at the least.
06 Jun 2020, 3:28 am
06 Jun 2020, 6:20 am
06 Jun 2020, 10:18 am
Pepe wrote:
You mean autistic Nazis?
How stupid would you have to be, to be on the spectrum, and embrace a philosophy that considers us as inferior
How stupid would you have to be, to be on the spectrum, and embrace a philosophy that considers us as inferior
I've noticed autistic people who embrace some questionable ideology in regards to their autism, such as eugenics. To be fair, those people are usually something similar to what people call an "incel", and I don't see a lot of autistic older adults with those kinds of views.
If there are full on autistic Nazis I wonder if they ever consider the fact they would have been killed simply for, y'know, existing. Maybe they don't care about that, though.
06 Jun 2020, 10:20 am
Pepe wrote:
The_Walrus wrote:
I think XFG’s post is probably the most sensible one a moderator could make right now.
Usually autistic white supremacists (or equivalent) aren’t very good at keeping it under their hat and get banned quite quickly. Allistic White supremacists often take a very different approach where they sanitise their beliefs as much as possible.
I think we have exactly one non-banned user on here who at one point made a habit of routinely posting far-right content. When challenged by WrongPlanet users he said he didn’t entirely agree (particularly with the outright racist bits) but he has since toned it back significantly.
There are also a couple of users who I think are better understood as grumpy rather than actually racist who might occasionally say something like “these people make me want to be a Nazi” or words to that effect. Again, don’t think those people are actually as far right as they might claim.
Oh and there’s Raptor of course He’s not really around any more but he was an ordinary US Republican who got accused of being a Nazi a lot by our Democratic users (I should say this was when TallyMan ran the show before anyone jumps down my throat ). In response to that, he started LARPing a lot, things like saying he used to be married to Eva Braun, or that you could tell he was a Nazi because of his support for tax cuts or whatever.
Usually autistic white supremacists (or equivalent) aren’t very good at keeping it under their hat and get banned quite quickly. Allistic White supremacists often take a very different approach where they sanitise their beliefs as much as possible.
I think we have exactly one non-banned user on here who at one point made a habit of routinely posting far-right content. When challenged by WrongPlanet users he said he didn’t entirely agree (particularly with the outright racist bits) but he has since toned it back significantly.
There are also a couple of users who I think are better understood as grumpy rather than actually racist who might occasionally say something like “these people make me want to be a Nazi” or words to that effect. Again, don’t think those people are actually as far right as they might claim.
Oh and there’s Raptor of course
He’s not really around any more but he was an ordinary US Republican who got accused of being a Nazi a lot by our Democratic users (I should say this was when TallyMan ran the show before anyone jumps down my throat ). In response to that, he started LARPing a lot, things like saying he used to be married to Eva Braun, or that you could tell he was a Nazi because of his support for tax cuts or whatever.Seriously?
Autistic Nazis/neo-Nazis?
You can see why I have a problem comprehending something like that?
Hitler would have had them sterilised at the least.
Consider the source. These folks see Nazis everywhere.
06 Jun 2020, 9:42 pm
HeroOfHyrule wrote:
Pepe wrote:
You mean autistic Nazis?
How stupid would you have to be, to be on the spectrum, and embrace a philosophy that considers us as inferior
How stupid would you have to be, to be on the spectrum, and embrace a philosophy that considers us as inferior
I've noticed autistic people who embrace some questionable ideology in regards to their autism, such as eugenics. To be fair, those people are usually something similar to what people call an "incel", and I don't see a lot of autistic older adults with those kinds of views.
If there are full on autistic Nazis I wonder if they ever consider the fact they would have been killed simply for, y'know, existing. Maybe they don't care about that, though.
Hence, my descriptive.
06 Jun 2020, 9:48 pm
"Don't be stupid,
Be a smarty,
Come and join,
The Nazi Party." 
VegetableMan wrote:
Nazis? Did someone say Nazis?
07 Jul 2020, 8:32 pm
08 Jul 2020, 10:01 am
08 Jul 2020, 10:13 am
08 Jul 2020, 10:17 am
Pepe wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
Yes, there are posters here who hold alt-right/Nazi/white nationalist views.
No, I will not tell you who they are.
Yes, they are allowed to post here as long as they don't violate WP's rules.
No, I will not tell you who they are.
Yes, they are allowed to post here as long as they don't violate WP's rules.
Wow.
That is something I wasn't expecting.
That the alt-right are allowed on here.
What is the rationale in that?
To be clear,
You are talking about NT fascists?
Great,
That is all we need.
More NTs with an attitude.
XFG is not an NT. She is autistic.
Also what you are expressing is autism supremacy.
Like autistic people are not capable of white supremacy and all. That is why we have autistic Trump supporters. Some people think they are just misinformed but I don't buy it anymore after seeing the s**t he's been saying and how can anyone still be supporting him?
08 Jul 2020, 10:22 am
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08 Jul 2020, 1:56 pm
Redd_Kross wrote:
Bear in mind here that American politics (and indeed culture) is inherently right-wing, as you have a choice between one right wing party and one VERY right wing party. So to understand politics from an international perspective you firstly have to comprehend that.
The vast majority of ideas that are portrayed as dangerously left wing in America would be viewed as centrist social democratic thinking in Europe and Scandanavia. It's certainly not "communist" as many US writers claim at the slightest provocation. The universal healthcare debate in the US is just one big ongoing face-palm for most Europeans, for example. It is very hard for most Americans to understand that communism is MUCH further left than they think (Cuba and Venezuela are the only genuine examples at the moment I suspect), most traditionally communist nations aren't any more (China, Russia and most of Eastern Europe are all about the money these days), socialism in France, Germany, Sweden etc. is essentially regulated capitalism and therefore centrist, the Democrats are right of centre, and Trump is about as close to Hitler as Castro was to Stalin.
That normally comes as a bit of a shock to most US correspondents, due to inherent bias.
For those who don't think Trump has extremely right wing views, I'd love to know how you reach that conclusion. His entire administration seems to be built around blaming others for problems created or exacerbated by his own policies. He is a "divide and conquer" opportunist taking power away from ordinary people on the premise of winning it back for them. Which all seems vaguely familiar....
I agree you can be a Trump supporter without being a Nazi. But to do that, you have to actively ignore the Nazi-style aspects of his Presidency. It's also likely that anyone who IS an American neo-Nazi is quite likely to be a Trump supporter. The two aren't the same thing, though.
The vast majority of ideas that are portrayed as dangerously left wing in America would be viewed as centrist social democratic thinking in Europe and Scandanavia. It's certainly not "communist" as many US writers claim at the slightest provocation. The universal healthcare debate in the US is just one big ongoing face-palm for most Europeans, for example. It is very hard for most Americans to understand that communism is MUCH further left than they think (Cuba and Venezuela are the only genuine examples at the moment I suspect), most traditionally communist nations aren't any more (China, Russia and most of Eastern Europe are all about the money these days), socialism in France, Germany, Sweden etc. is essentially regulated capitalism and therefore centrist, the Democrats are right of centre, and Trump is about as close to Hitler as Castro was to Stalin.
That normally comes as a bit of a shock to most US correspondents, due to inherent bias.
For those who don't think Trump has extremely right wing views, I'd love to know how you reach that conclusion. His entire administration seems to be built around blaming others for problems created or exacerbated by his own policies. He is a "divide and conquer" opportunist taking power away from ordinary people on the premise of winning it back for them. Which all seems vaguely familiar....
I agree you can be a Trump supporter without being a Nazi. But to do that, you have to actively ignore the Nazi-style aspects of his Presidency. It's also likely that anyone who IS an American neo-Nazi is quite likely to be a Trump supporter. The two aren't the same thing, though.
As Americans, we're told to take pride in our FREEDOM.
We call our country "Land of the free".
On this forum, I have seen Europe/Canada/UK ...
1) have much less free speech
2) much higher taxes
3) life choices are more restricted by government
4) living is condensed (crowded): small cars, small homes, living close together
1. American can say hateful racist things and it's not a "speech hate crime".
2. Americans can easily earn $150,000 per year and take deductions to pay little tax.
3. If a poor performing student in the US wants to become a brain surgeon, it's never too late.
4. Go big and buy that big McMansion with acres of land. Get yourself a big gas guzzler vehicle too. You're an American after all.
So, the best part of being an American is opportunity.
