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Do we need a LGBT subforum?
Poll ended at 04 Dec 2011, 8:39 am
yes 64%  64%  [ 18 ]
no 36%  36%  [ 10 ]
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13 Jan 2011, 4:20 pm

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If you want a forum specifically for transgender people to give each other advice... Go join one.

Seriously, I don't want to sound discriminatory or anything, but one Asperger's forum can't do everything. I still think there should be a men's forum if there's a women's one, but apparently, no, they won't do that.


AND WHY CAN'T WE HAVE WHITE HISTORY MONTH EITHER

OH GOD WHITE MEN ARE SO OPPRESSED ;_;


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13 Jan 2011, 9:04 pm

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If you want a forum specifically for transgender people to give each other advice... Go join one.

Seriously, I don't want to sound discriminatory or anything, but one Asperger's forum can't do everything. I still think there should be a men's forum if there's a women's one, but apparently, no, they won't do that.


Yes, yes, yes.



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15 Jan 2011, 5:41 am

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AND WHY CAN'T WE HAVE WHITE HISTORY MONTH EITHER

OH GOD WHITE MEN ARE SO OPPRESSED ;_;


You've reminded me of a joke I read ages ago, hold on...

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I'm tryin to get into the music business. Here's how:

First of all, I'm going to set up a new radio station entitled BBC White Net. The music featured will come completely from white people, and will be aimed at white people to listen to in all marketing.

Then, I'm going to set up a new awards ceremomy, the MOWO Awards, or 'Music Of White Origin', where all awards will go to white musicians, bands, producers etc. No black/Asian people allowed.

I suppose you're thinking that I'll never be allowed. I'll either get stopped before I get going, or get arrested or prosecuted for racism and/or discriminated.

And you're right, I would.

So how the f**k can the MOBO Awards (Music Of Black Origin) and BBC Asian Net exist?


The point being, of course, that celebrating the achievements of any race shouldn't be seen as discriminatory against other races, and that should hold true whether you're talking about black people or white people.

However, I believe we may have taken the thread off-topic, because this has nothing at all to do with making a new subforum on WP :roll:



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15 Jan 2011, 8:25 am

Asp-Z wrote:
Delirium wrote:
AND WHY CAN'T WE HAVE WHITE HISTORY MONTH EITHER

OH GOD WHITE MEN ARE SO OPPRESSED ;_;


You've reminded me of a joke I read ages ago, hold on...

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I'm tryin to get into the music business. Here's how:

First of all, I'm going to set up a new radio station entitled BBC White Net. The music featured will come completely from white people, and will be aimed at white people to listen to in all marketing.

Then, I'm going to set up a new awards ceremomy, the MOWO Awards, or 'Music Of White Origin', where all awards will go to white musicians, bands, producers etc. No black/Asian people allowed.

I suppose you're thinking that I'll never be allowed. I'll either get stopped before I get going, or get arrested or prosecuted for racism and/or discriminated.

And you're right, I would.

So how the f**k can the MOBO Awards (Music Of Black Origin) and BBC Asian Net exist?


The point being, of course, that celebrating the achievements of any race shouldn't be seen as discriminatory against other races, and that should hold true whether you're talking about black people or white people.

However, I believe we may have taken the thread off-topic, because this has nothing at all to do with making a new subforum on WP :roll:


Except white people are not marginalized in society, so that joke falls flat.


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15 Jan 2011, 4:09 pm

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Except white people are not marginalized in society, so that joke falls flat.


So what?



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18 Jan 2011, 3:36 pm

Delirium wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
Delirium wrote:
AND WHY CAN'T WE HAVE WHITE HISTORY MONTH EITHER

OH GOD WHITE MEN ARE SO OPPRESSED ;_;


You've reminded me of a joke I read ages ago, hold on...

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I'm tryin to get into the music business. Here's how:

First of all, I'm going to set up a new radio station entitled BBC White Net. The music featured will come completely from white people, and will be aimed at white people to listen to in all marketing.

Then, I'm going to set up a new awards ceremomy, the MOWO Awards, or 'Music Of White Origin', where all awards will go to white musicians, bands, producers etc. No black/Asian people allowed.

I suppose you're thinking that I'll never be allowed. I'll either get stopped before I get going, or get arrested or prosecuted for racism and/or discriminated.

And you're right, I would.

So how the f**k can the MOBO Awards (Music Of Black Origin) and BBC Asian Net exist?


The point being, of course, that celebrating the achievements of any race shouldn't be seen as discriminatory against other races, and that should hold true whether you're talking about black people or white people.

However, I believe we may have taken the thread off-topic, because this has nothing at all to do with making a new subforum on WP :roll:


Except white people are not marginalized in society, so that joke falls flat.


:roll: Are you sure? That depends where in the world you are, as with other races. Neither are actually marginalised here which is why none of these protective forums are necessary. Also, creating things like MOBO won't stop people being marginalised in any way.



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31 Jan 2011, 12:09 am

forgive me for not reading all six pages but I think an LGBT forum will be a good idea. However I think at least one forum should disappear to make room for it. Any forums that bite the dust can always be absorbed up into Random



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31 Jan 2011, 12:40 pm

bucephalus wrote:
forgive me for not reading all six pages but I think an LGBT forum will be a good idea. However I think at least one forum should disappear to make room for it. Any forums that bite the dust can always be absorbed up into Random


WTF? So a forum meant for everyone should be scrapped in order to make room for existing forum content to be separated into sexuality based areas?



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31 Jan 2011, 12:41 pm

bucephalus wrote:
forgive me for not reading all six pages but I think an LGBT forum will be a good idea. However I think at least one forum should disappear to make room for it. Any forums that bite the dust can always be absorbed up into Random


WTF? So a forum meant for everyone should be scrapped in order to make room for existing forum content to be separated into sexuality based areas?



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31 Jan 2011, 2:16 pm

For the people wondering why a LGBTQ forum is a good idea, read this.


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31 Jan 2011, 3:55 pm

Delirium wrote:
For the people wondering why a LGBTQ forum is a good idea, read this.


Most of that is very much dependant on the circumstances and some aren't acurate either:

If I pick up a magazine, watch TV, or play music, I can be certain my sexual orientation will be represented.
If I pick up one of the readily available gay mags up this isn't the case.

I did not grow up with games that attack my sexual orientation (IE fag tag or smear the queer)
I didn't grow up with any such games about either gender, how many did?

I am never asked to speak for everyone who is heterosexual.
I've pretty much been asked this by a few gay guys.

People of my gender do not try to convince me to change my sexual orientation.
So why don't the guys stop chatting me up when I tell them I'm straight? This probably happens more to straight guys than gay.

I am not identified by my sexual orientation.
I am when around mainly gay people.

I'm not grouped because of my sexual orientation.
See previous response.


If these things were happening here on WP then the point could be valid but that is not the case.



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31 Jan 2011, 5:02 pm

I still don't get why it's such a big deal

We have a women's forum, we've had a men's forum, we have an old people forum, we have a teenagers forum etc etc



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31 Jan 2011, 5:13 pm

Mark198423 wrote:
Most of that is very much dependant on the circumstances and some aren't acurate either:

If I pick up a magazine, watch TV, or play music, I can be certain my sexual orientation will be represented.
If I pick up one of the readily available gay mags up this isn't the case.


Gay magazines developed because most magazines were aimed at straight audiences and weren't addressing the needs of gay people. When I was a teenager, I'd read Seventeen and CosmoGirl, but the dating advice was aimed at straight girls. Other than the obligatory "I'm a lesbian" article they'd do once every year, there was nothing for me.

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I did not grow up with games that attack my sexual orientation (IE fag tag or smear the queer)
I didn't grow up with any such games about either gender, how many did?


Lucky you. For most people, that's not the case.

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I am never asked to speak for everyone who is heterosexual.
I've pretty much been asked this by a few gay guys.


Oh, once you had to be the token straight guy! That invalidates the other 99% of the time when gay people have to be the spokespeople for their sexuality!

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People of my gender do not try to convince me to change my sexual orientation.
So why don't the guys stop chatting me up when I tell them I'm straight? This probably happens more to straight guys than gay.


There's an entire industry devoted to making LGBTQ people conform to a heterocentric society.

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I am not identified by my sexual orientation.
I am when around mainly gay people.


You're talking about a specific circumstance. Most of the time, a gay person in a group of people is going to be "the gay guy".

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I'm not grouped because of my sexual orientation.
See previous response.


See mine.


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31 Jan 2011, 7:55 pm

Hey 3 of the last 4 posters are from Manchester/salford :nerdy: :skull:

I live near the trafford centre btw



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31 Jan 2011, 9:49 pm

Volodja wrote:
Hey 3 of the last 4 posters are from Manchester/salford :nerdy: :skull:

I live near the trafford centre btw


Eccles, me 8)



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31 Jan 2011, 10:15 pm

Cool, I was at Eccles college for a couple years 2004-06

I don't go to Salford much anymore though, except to go to Tesco in irlam :P