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Are there members here who are nazis
Yes ( 1 or 2 members ) 5%  5%  [ 1 ]
Yes ( 5 - 10 members ) 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Yes ( 10+ members ) 5%  5%  [ 1 ]
No 16%  16%  [ 3 ]
Don't Know 32%  32%  [ 6 ]
I'm the only one here who doesn't goosestep 42%  42%  [ 8 ]
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10 Jul 2020, 9:51 pm

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I believe Sly has had trauma happen to him.

This is why he is so fanatical about guns.

He’s a decent guy who needs someone to talk to.



You can't be against gun control and then worry about a unstable person having a gun. That is called self aware wolf. That is the whole point of gun control.

No one is trying to take your guns. No one will come to your house and snatch them away. That is right wing propaganda.


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10 Jul 2020, 9:53 pm

I own a Toyota too. I got it for $2000 and it's a 2013 model.


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10 Jul 2020, 9:58 pm

League_Girl wrote:
No one is trying to take your guns. No one will come to your house and snatch them away. That is right wing propaganda.


Have you seen the Jim Jefferies monologue about gun control?



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11 Jul 2020, 6:14 am

That’s true. No one is trying to take Sly’s guns away from him.



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11 Jul 2020, 8:40 am

Redd_Kross wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
No one is trying to take your guns. No one will come to your house and snatch them away. That is right wing propaganda.


Have you seen the Jim Jefferies monologue about gun control?



No.

Have you ever actually listened to liberals about gun control? Not one of them has said, "we need to ban guns here. We need to reposses them." Instead they talked about restrictions on owning them.

I have only seen the right wing making that claim. Listening to both sides is good and people have admitted they will only listen to one side and look down on anyone who listens to the conservatives. The reason why I listen to their junk is so I know what is going on out there and know what people are thinking.


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11 Jul 2020, 1:17 pm

League_Girl wrote:
No.

Have you ever actually listened to liberals about gun control? Not one of them has said, "we need to ban guns here. We need to reposses them." Instead they talked about restrictions on owning them.

I have only seen the right wing making that claim. Listening to both sides is good and people have admitted they will only listen to one side and look down on anyone who listens to the conservatives. The reason why I listen to their junk is so I know what is going on out there and know what people are thinking.


Your loss then, because Jefferies agrees with you and is very witty and eloquent about it, too. He does throw some shade at AS kids at one point but it's funny and he does have a point, so I can live with it.



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16 Jul 2020, 5:27 pm

The gun thing is simply a Trump supporter thing. Every single male Trump supporter I know has a gun thing. As far as some people being traumatized... I have had a gun pointed in my face. THAT is traumatizing. It did not make me want me to stockpile a bunch of guns.

Some people are "traumatized" because they live in a right wing media bubble that tells them that they are victims and there is no problem with racism in this country but antifa and BLM marxists and libruls are going to take your guns away.

Real victimization for them is when you try to pop that bubble they live in or offer another opinion. They can demean you all they want for your experience of racism. They can make up stuff about the beliefs of anyone that is not in the bubble (socialists, commies... oh my!) .

If you question them... they get all upset! If they question you and you get frustrated trying to explain to them your views... you are victimizing them. If they call you names like snowflake or leftist... they have a right... FREE SPEECH!
If you question them at all... you are denying their rights and victimizing them.

If they crap in the punch bowl at a party and someone calls them out on it... they are the victims. Not the people that drank the punch.

This is because they are authoritarians. Authoritarians (left and right) do this no matter what culture or time in history they are in. They have a right to troll, demean and call you names. If you point out that people who have experienced racism have their experiences invalidated when they say it is not an issue they say you see "RACISM EVERYWHERE"! !! when they have no experience of racism except what is told to them (That the racism is against them).

It is not about autism, it is about basic human decency. There are decent people on the left and the right with different opinions... that is ok. I once made this point to someone and they acted like I was victimizing them.

They are what I call Hat sh*tters... they sh*t in your hat and when you get upset and don't put it on... they get offended and melt like snowflakes. They say calling them out on their hat sh*tting is "PC". They say look! I am wearing my hat! (which has not been sh*t in)

Right now in the U.S. lots of these people wont wear masks because it is victimizing them to have to protect the health of other people. See how well that is going?

I have no sympathy for this behavior. It belongs on Reddit or 4chan.

I don't call them racists or Nazis in threads because I believe in decency... I am not a hat sh*tter. (I am sure they would view that as "leftist moral superiority")



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17 Jul 2020, 8:16 am

I understand why people call others Nazis on various grounds.
I can't understand why self-identified Nazis exist today.
Are they some official-history-denier kind of conspirationists?


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17 Jul 2020, 1:37 pm

neo-Nazis are usually Holocaust deniers. They don’t believe Hitler and his gang could have done such a thing. Or else they really hate many different sorts of people.



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18 Jul 2020, 12:05 am

I call people Nazis if they are Holocaust deniers, think Hitler was a good person, don't believe in the bad stuff about him, are for genocide or even imply it, are for eugenics. I think Trump, Glen Beck, and the Texas governor are all Nazis when they said we should sacrifice the elderly and the disabled and all.


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18 Jul 2020, 12:11 am

Chain wrote:
The gun thing is simply a Trump supporter thing. Every single male Trump supporter I know has a gun thing. As far as some people being traumatized... I have had a gun pointed in my face. THAT is traumatizing. It did not make me want me to stockpile a bunch of guns.

Some people are "traumatized" because they live in a right wing media bubble that tells them that they are victims and there is no problem with racism in this country but antifa and BLM marxists and libruls are going to take your guns away.

Real victimization for them is when you try to pop that bubble they live in or offer another opinion. They can demean you all they want for your experience of racism. They can make up stuff about the beliefs of anyone that is not in the bubble (socialists, commies... oh my!) .

If you question them... they get all upset! If they question you and you get frustrated trying to explain to them your views... you are victimizing them. If they call you names like snowflake or leftist... they have a right... FREE SPEECH!
If you question them at all... you are denying their rights and victimizing them.

If they crap in the punch bowl at a party and someone calls them out on it... they are the victims. Not the people that drank the punch.

This is because they are authoritarians. Authoritarians (left and right) do this no matter what culture or time in history they are in. They have a right to troll, demean and call you names. If you point out that people who have experienced racism have their experiences invalidated when they say it is not an issue they say you see "RACISM EVERYWHERE"! ! ! when they have no experience of racism except what is told to them (That the racism is against them).

It is not about autism, it is about basic human decency. There are decent people on the left and the right with different opinions... that is ok. I once made this point to someone and they acted like I was victimizing them.

They are what I call Hat sh*tters... they sh*t in your hat and when you get upset and don't put it on... they get offended and melt like snowflakes. They say calling them out on their hat sh*tting is "PC". They say look! I am wearing my hat! (which has not been sh*t in)

Right now in the U.S. lots of these people wont wear masks because it is victimizing them to have to protect the health of other people. See how well that is going?

I have no sympathy for this behavior. It belongs on Reddit or 4chan.

I don't call them racists or Nazis in threads because I believe in decency... I am not a hat sh*tter. (I am sure they would view that as "leftist moral superiority")



lol, conservatives are getting their subs banned and their asses banned from subs on Reddit. Obviously Reddit is ran by liberals.

I am familiar with all the snowflake stuff and leftists they sprout out.

I notice they are the ones who are sensitive and want to censor people and they are hypocrites. They want free speech, then they should know that people have the right to call them out on their racism and bigotry, people have the right to speak up against their beliefs, people have the right to make videos about them criticizing their video and reacting to what they said in it, free speech. They also want a safe space as well where they can say bigoted stuff without being called out.


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18 Jul 2020, 12:16 am

I try to reserve the term Nazi for discussing actual Nazis although I'm certain I sometimes slip up on this.

I try to reserve the term fascist for people who espouse similar ideology to Mussolini, although I will generally include other reactionary nationalists even if they don't agree with Mussolini's economic ideas. If one sounds like Pinochet that's close enough by my standards.

right-wing I'll use more broadly because it's inherently joking, I'll use it to compare those who sound like reactionary nationalists to their predecessors but ultimately it's not intended as literally calling the person a Nazi, just like if someone calls me a pinko I know they're not literally meaning I'm some sort of Leninist.

White supremacist on the other hand is a term I'll apply to those who consistently show they'd place the interests and concerns of white people ahead of other peoples. This forum has people who meet that definition even if we don't have any 'card carrying members of white supremacist organizations' which isn't a very useful definition of the term and seems to mostly be used so that racists can distance themselves from even worse racists.


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18 Jul 2020, 12:18 am

Chain wrote:
I don't call them racists or Nazis in threads because I believe in decency... I am not a hat sh*tter. (I am sure they would view that as "leftist moral superiority")


What's wrong with calling a spade a spade. If someone espouses racist nonsense they should anticipate being called racist. Bawwing and flailing their hands in rage doesn't make the shoe cease to fit.


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18 Jul 2020, 8:46 am

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funeralxempire wrote:
Chain wrote:
I don't call them racists or Nazis in threads because I believe in decency... I am not a hat sh*tter. (I am sure they would view that as "leftist moral superiority")


What's wrong with calling a spade a spade. If someone espouses racist nonsense they should anticipate being called racist. Bawwing and flailing their hands in rage doesn't make the shoe cease to fit.

Be careful, the woke police might go after you for using the “racist” expression “calling a spade a spade” :)


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18 Jul 2020, 12:33 pm

A “spade” is a racist term for a black person, usually used of males. It’s not commonly used these days.



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18 Jul 2020, 1:22 pm

But without calling a spade a spade, how can I buy this gardening tool?


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