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04 Jun 2009, 9:05 pm

People from here come and go. Some go peacefully and never return, some go peacefully and do return. When those that go peacefully do return now, this place makes autism speaks look great.

Some are banned for good reasons, others are banned because a mod just didn't like them. Some are banned for their posts that are not liberal minded. Some are banned for being emotionally unstable. Some are just banned for silly reasons.

Wrong planet is also wrong because it claims to be a support site for people with autism but if you even share a site that is obvious parody of NT's, you are declared offensive not long after the post is made however if someone says offensive things about aspies, mods take their time.

Anytime a place like this turns into a dictatorship, people that make this place good to be around start to disappear.

Mods should stop and question if their overly authoritarian approach is really suitable for an aspie messageboard considering it's anti-aspie. Coming up with bad excuses for trying to exert your internet powers over people who come here to get away from such nonsense only further emphasizes why wrong planet will continue to be wrong.

Another reason why wrong planet is wrong is the owner of this website is supposed to have the most authority but it appears not. Mods should also abide by the standards and rules of this site and should also refrain from trying to control others in a dictatorship double standard fashion. If mods can't do that then they shouldn't be mods.

Why does this place have to be corrupt too? Isn't the beauty of being an individual and analytical thinker knowing that this form of exerting your will over people usually only promotes bad behavior, rebellion and boycotts?

On the front page itself (another reason why wrong planet is wrong), there is a parody title called "NT's in denial" yet if you read a mod telling people to knock it off with the NT parody site from isnt autistics dot org, you'll see a contradiction.

The fabulous four mods posted on wrongplanet web discussion at the bottom of the forum, are they all a clique? Where are the other mods names who aren't shown as mods to contact that are seen in green under users browsing this forum? Are those mods too autistic to be apart of the elite fabulous four? Would anyone really even trust contacting any of the mods after those mods try to tell you what you shouldn't say because it's considered offensive against Nt's even though it's about a parody site that is light hearted?


I'm sure this won't last long but maybe mods will prove they can take a little criticism. Why not? Members here who come here thinking it's a place they can be themselves and not get the same back handed treatment they face in society are getting the backhand from you!

I have a blog in my profile. Wrong planet is wrong.

This is only just the short version.



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04 Jun 2009, 9:11 pm

I completely agree with you. Shame that the thread will be deleted and you will be banned though. But well said.



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04 Jun 2009, 9:13 pm

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04 Jun 2009, 9:16 pm

Sounds 100% right to me. Authoritarianism on a site for aspies is like requiring users drink a gallon of milk on a site for the lactose intolerant.



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04 Jun 2009, 9:23 pm

[attempt to circumvent word filter deleted by lau]! You got me questioning reality again! :wall:


edit: Heheh... I'll stick to the stars next time. :wink:



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04 Jun 2009, 9:39 pm

I'm sorry, let me call you a Waaahmbulance.

Oh, wait, did that Waahmbulance have a self-closing door? Better not let it hit you in the backside on the way out. Bye bye! *waves*


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04 Jun 2009, 9:41 pm

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04 Jun 2009, 9:48 pm

Funny thing is, he only has one example in his blog. In that, the mod spoke his mind in a perfectly sound way, and DID NOT ban anybody! He didn't even lock the topic! He reminded the OP it is against the rules to post any material that may attack any certain group of people isn't acceptable, and that he respects the intention of humor, but did seem nethertheless an attack.

Not to mention this rule isn't enforced on a "Authoritarian" level here. lawlzzzz
Any frequenter of WP knows this.



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04 Jun 2009, 9:54 pm

I'd class it as overmoderation, an overzealous action. Sometimes you get that from mods, I suppose everyone has their 'short fuse' days, so at this stage I'd probably slot it into that category.

There has however been a period in the past when overmoderation was a serious problem at this site and ultimately most of the then moderators were banned. They became a junta who ...oh well it's probably all still there way back in the archives.



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04 Jun 2009, 11:42 pm

Your criticism is welcome; however, all I did was remind publicly of the rules as a preventative. No reprimand, no censure, no limitation other than the rules stated - that's all. How that is over moderation, I'm not entirely sure... that's something I would have likely said before being a mod as just a fellow member. If you have complaints about a particular thread, please let me or another mod know via PM. Thank you.


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05 Jun 2009, 12:30 am

typ3 wrote:

Not to mention this rule isn't enforced on a "Authoritarian" level here. lawlzzzz
Any frequenter of WP knows this.


apparently this poster joined 2 weeks ago.



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05 Jun 2009, 12:18 pm

Funny, none of the things on that list are things that bother me. Maybe I haven't noticed them, or maybe I don't see it that way, or maybe I'm okay with it.

What bothers me is the lack of focus on what us folks on the spectrum can do to improve ourselves, to grow as a person. Would be nice to at least have a section of the board devoted to personal growth.

But, there are things that are good about this place. This also not on that list -- so, even if that list is so, this place is right in addition to being wrong.



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05 Jun 2009, 12:42 pm

Some specific answers and some personal opinions:

I am one of those unlisted mod's. It is MY choice. I am not here often enough to consider myself able to take on an "on-call" function. I read only a few boards and consider those to be my primary modding responsibility.

Some with the mod tools are still deciding if they wish to accept the role or not. The tools are given to certain members and it is up to those members to decide if they will "activate" their role or not. I'm personally still squishy about it, but I do what I can. As long as I'm unlisted, I feel I have the option to retreat from duty if I need to.

The 4 that are listed aren't so lucky.

The current moderators had no hand in writing the rules, but feel obligated to enforce them as written. That doesn't always come out fair, even to our eyes, but when given the tools you aren't asked if you like the rules, you are simply asked to enforce them.

There are no mods that read absolutely everything on this forum. It would be impossible. Some transgressions are going to be missed. And some might be allowed for if a mod is aware of a posters background, and sincerely believes the poster is trying to learn to play by the rules. A lot can be set by how a poster chooses to respond to warnings and suggestions. There is nothing set that a warning needs to be given at all; a warning is considered a courtesy. Someone who is responsive to that courtesy is going to be shown more courtesy back than someone who isn't.

Every mod does this without pay. In our "free" time. When members show some respect for that, they get more respect back.

One rule is simple: multiple names are not allowed without specific, before hand, permission. Change a name or come back with a new one, it gets banned.

I, personally, believe that laying it all on out there is the best approach. But we don't always have the time or the patience for it. And there may be times we've been instructed not to, for various legal reasons. So this is my best effort on openess. For now.


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05 Jun 2009, 4:16 pm

Were you here during the last great moderator purge of a few years ago? Names like Pyraxis, Dunc, et al were the mods then? They were booted out and most of that group went on to start Intensitysquared. While they were here they were 'angelic' butter wouldn't melt in your mouth, pious PC enforcers, but as you would know if you visited that site, that's not what they're like at all.

I'm not interested in the self righteous claims of moderators. Self righteousness is probably the worst quality to have in a mod. All power corrupts, that is the important thing for mods here to know.



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05 Jun 2009, 6:03 pm

This is the thread that sparked this discussion

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt100223.html



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05 Jun 2009, 6:28 pm

If I got banned because people didn't like me, I'd -

One: be a whiny b***h.

Two: belong nowhere.