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03 Nov 2009, 4:44 pm

The Haven: Hello I'm suicidal. Please convice me to not kill myself.

Love and Dating: Hello I'm a misogynist. Please make futile atemmpts to argue against my repulsive views.

Autism Politics, Activism, and Media Representation: Autism speaks is evil. Please voice your agreement.

Getting to Know Each Other: Hello I'm new. Please copy and paste "welcome to wrong planet" for the 10000th time rather than anything interesting questions about me.

News and Current Events: Hello I'm paranoid. Please respond to my insane consipracy theory.

Going on this website makes me depressed and embarresed to have Aspergers. I think the only reason I do it anymore is for some vaugly masochistic streak. Is anyone as dissapointed with this site or is it just me?



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03 Nov 2009, 4:54 pm

Purpose? Where is this purpose written? I seem to have missed it.

It's a forum. On it, people do forum-y things. What exactly are you looking for? If you wanted people constantly exchanging intellectual comments, then you won't find that anywhere.


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03 Nov 2009, 5:26 pm

The purpose was presumably to be a forum that would make aspergers seem less miserable and alienating. Was I mistaken?



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03 Nov 2009, 5:29 pm

Does anyone else see the irony in being less alienated by the concept that you're on the wrong planet? :lol:



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03 Nov 2009, 7:56 pm

You forgot one.. WrongPlanet.net discussion: I have nothing better to do so I'm going to complain about how this site is run.



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03 Nov 2009, 10:04 pm

It's not really how the site is run that's a problem, it's that people here rarely offer practical advice, and frequenty blame all their problems on "NT society", have paranoid consipirosy therories, and are in general not the community that I want to be a part of. And since it's an alienating community, rather than one that helps with alienation, that's why I say it does the opposite of it's puropse. If I wasn't clear on that I'm sorry.



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04 Nov 2009, 12:42 am

Your right metelz, alot of the stuff posted here has nothing to do with aspergers, and seems to be coming from some very disturbed individuals.
I am disgusted by the Love & Dating board, it seems populated by very angry men who blame all women for there short comings, it seems like the most controversial are allowed carte blanche to say what ever with no consequences, but if anyone speaks up they get warning from a mod.



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04 Nov 2009, 11:02 am

metelz wrote:
It's not really how the site is run that's a problem, it's that people here rarely offer practical advice, and frequenty blame all their problems on "NT society", have paranoid consipirosy therories, and are in general not the community that I want to be a part of. And since it's an alienating community, rather than one that helps with alienation, that's why I say it does the opposite of it's puropse. If I wasn't clear on that I'm sorry.

The best thing to do about that is ask questions about practical things. I have gotten some good advice here.

But also, a lot of people just need to vent. A lot of people on WP have had a lot of the same experiences, and so it's a place where those things can be shared with other people who have had the same problems. For a lot of people here, it's like therapy with somebody who actually understands.



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04 Nov 2009, 1:39 pm

I apologize. My comment was insensitive.

I am sorry that you feel alienated here, metelz. If you came here hoping to find 'help' for how to deal with your symptoms, then this isn't really the right place for that. Most everyone here has the same problems and no one knows how to 'fix' them. But there is certainly a lot of advice and insight to be found if you ask and look for it.

I don't know about anyone else but my main purpose on this site is to simply express myself and my opinions. There are very few places where one can do that without offending someone or whatnot. I find that I can post most all of my thoughts here without reprocussions. With the exception of personal attacks and intentionally offensive material, most anything can be expressed here and I value that very highly.

This is the only place I can post some kind of really strange world veiw or habit that I have and not have anyone accuse me of trying to get attention. This is the only place I don't get called immature or crazy for some of the things I like. I find this forum to be very tollerant overall and the people who find it intollerant are usually those who are stirring up trouble.



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04 Nov 2009, 2:34 pm

Alright I'm a little sorry about this thread. In retrospect it seems a little immature and over the top. It's just that the people here so often have horrible attitudes, have been very unsucessful, and seem to try to use either NTs, women,, their communities or some other group as scapegoats that I've been disturbed by the fact that this is the community that I'm supposed to be able to relate to. I'm glad you weren't too offended.



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04 Nov 2009, 2:50 pm

Hi metelz, you know. When I first saw this thread and saw that you are 16 and diagnosed I was thinking. wow he can think like NTs do! I was starting my AS brain quite intense and tried to figure out what you meant with your first post. Is that called sarcasm? Is he making a fool of WP? Is he joking? What is his point? I honestly understood absolutely nothing!!

To me it was far beyond my AScharacter to be able to think like this you describe at all. But it seemes to be rather common among users here to have certain opinions and is able to analyse things in the way you do. I just like to pop in here and put some random words and sometimes I give support and feedback to someone in a situation I can related to. If I cant relate then I cant speak...

We are really diffrent all of us with AS - but WP DO have both space and place for all of us as long as nobody is offending another!
Its good to be able to see your own actions in retrospect :D


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04 Nov 2009, 8:21 pm

mitharatowen wrote:
I don't know about anyone else but my main purpose on this site is to simply express myself and my opinions. There are very few places where one can do that without offending someone or whatnot. I find that I can post most all of my thoughts here without reprocussions. With the exception of personal attacks and intentionally offensive material, most anything can be expressed here and I value that very highly.

This is the only place I can post some kind of really strange world veiw or habit that I have and not have anyone accuse me of trying to get attention. This is the only place I don't get called immature or crazy for some of the things I like. I find this forum to be very tollerant overall and the people who find it intollerant are usually those who are stirring up trouble.

Yup.. and the only place I've ever found where when you say something wrong and it gets misinterpreted, you can go back and explain what you really meant, and people actually do understand that what you really meant was what you were trying to say the first time, rather than thinking that you're just trying to make excuses for saying something nasty and still holding the thing that you didn't really mean because you just said it wrong against you. Woah.. that was a long run-on sentence. But I think it said what I meant! LOL


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Alright I'm a little sorry about this thread. In retrospect it seems a little immature and over the top. It's just that the people here so often have horrible attitudes, have been very unsucessful, and seem to try to use either NTs, women,, their communities or some other group as scapegoats that I've been disturbed by the fact that this is the community that I'm supposed to be able to relate to. I'm glad you weren't too offended.

Some people do have bad attitudes. Others are feeling negative because they have so much trouble with so many things. A lot of it is just the specific circumstances that cause someone to post. The Haven is a place to go for support, and people post there when they're feeling like crap and need to talk about it. That doesn't mean that they always feel that way, and posting about it and getting some support helps. Sometimes getting things out makes it easier not to dwell on the problem, and it's easier for most aspies to find understanding here than, say, with a therapist. Likewise for relationships, or social skills issues.. people tend to post about things that they have problems with. Why would they write a post asking a question they already know the answer to? And a lot of people have been victimized an awful lot. It makes it easier to deal with, having people to talk to. And most of us have had a lot of trouble finding that. I don't think the point is necessarily to make us less alienated from the world, but that we're already alienated from the world, so we feel a little less alien finding other people who are too.



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13 Nov 2009, 2:24 pm

mitharatowen wrote:
You forgot one.. WrongPlanet.net discussion: I have nothing better to do so I'm going to complain about how this site is run.


:lol: zing!


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13 Nov 2009, 7:51 pm

metelz wrote:
It's not really how the site is run that's a problem, it's that people here rarely offer practical advice, and frequenty blame all their problems on "NT society", have paranoid consipirosy therories, and are in general not the community that I want to be a part of. And since it's an alienating community, rather than one that helps with alienation, that's why I say it does the opposite of it's puropse. If I wasn't clear on that I'm sorry.


Well, the problem with that is the presumption about it's purpose. The purpose it gives is it's a "resource and community" (in the logo) and "Wrong Planet is the web community designed for individuals (and parents of those) with Autism, Asperger's Syndrome, ADHD, PDDs, and other neurological differences." (top box, middle column, main page).

So, I think it lives up to it's purpose just fine.

I do wish there was more trying to improve oneself, which I think is related to what you are saying. More of an attitude of "what can I do to improve life for myself, and how can we help each other in that".

I can pick and choose which forums (within the message board) to visit. I don't visit any of the forums you name in your first post. They don't interest me. I certainly don't have time to read everything, so picking and choosing is a must. I don't visit the "General autism discussion" because it's too hard to sort through.

I read the "Social Skills and Making Friends". I don't thoroughly read everything. But it's easy enough to figure out which threads have something to offer me or are ones where I have something to offer.

I read the "In-Depth Adult Life Discussion". Which tends to not have a lot of posts, and has some worthwhile discussions.

So, skip the sections of the board you don't like. And venture into the ones you haven't checked out yet.


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15 Nov 2009, 10:47 am

Yeah I've never understood this need to constantly blame NTs since most NTs are also as various as those who fit the DSM for ASD.

And yes.....I have to agree with the OP on the Love and Dating forum though I am seeing more contributors that haven't been doing that lately.


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24 Nov 2009, 10:48 am

Isn't it the purpose of this board to find people who feel alike, and not to be "cured"?