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Ragtime
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09 Dec 2011, 9:42 am

...meaning, you have to like homosexuality, or at least pretend you do.

So, goodbye, openminded WP! :P Too bad you can't actually debate issues anymore, but hey, there are plenty of REAL discussion forums out there.


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09 Dec 2011, 9:49 am

Just don't be a hateful bigoted dickhead.



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09 Dec 2011, 9:57 am

I believe that the saying is "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all." The rules here clearly state that you can insult a stance or ideology, but not a user. As we have LGBT users, homophobia violates that rule.



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09 Dec 2011, 9:59 am

Quote:
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The following activities are unacceptable on WrongPlanet:

1. Posting offensive language, comments, video, or images.
Unacceptable content includes swearing; racist, sexist, homophobic language; behavior intended to provoke or belittle other members; violent or sexually demeaning content; sexual fetish; and discussion of excretory function. Posting graphic images or videos of people or animals being harmed is prohibited.

2. Personal attacks.
This includes insinuation, ridicule and personal insults, regardless of whether direct or indirect. Attacking an opinion, belief or philosophy is acceptable, but attacking the person making the comments is not.

3. Other inappropriate content and behavior prohibited on Wrong Planet:
This includes copyrighted material, serial codes, and posts made to promote a website, group or product, particularly if made repeatedly and without other participation in the WP community (spamming). This also includes discussion of locked topics, discussion of banned members and why they were banned and anything else that purposely causes conflict with other members.

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt12459.html

read the rules (applicable portion bolded). you can have respectful debate, but as soon as you start crossing over into homophobia, it is no longer permitted.

also, this thread has been moved from Politics, Philosophy, and Religion to WrongPlanet.net discussion.


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09 Dec 2011, 10:01 am

Anyone else see the irony in the fact that he wants us to be "open minded" towards his closed mindedness? :roll:



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09 Dec 2011, 10:05 am

You know you're in a place that's high brow when you can't discuss the excretory function



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09 Dec 2011, 10:09 am

Ragtime wrote:
...meaning, you have to like homosexuality, or at least pretend you do.

So, goodbye, openminded WP! :P Too bad you can't actually debate issues anymore, but hey, there are plenty of REAL discussion forums out there.


i think i see what you are saying. i posted in a thread a while ago about homosexuality, and i simply said that i was not at all interested in men sexually, and i was lambasted severely for being a bigot.

there seems to be a hyper vigilant hostility to anyone who posts anything that is not celebrating of homosexuality.
i am not a homosexual, and that makes me a bigot it seems, so i do not post anything about it any more.



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09 Dec 2011, 10:16 am

b9 wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
...meaning, you have to like homosexuality, or at least pretend you do.

So, goodbye, openminded WP! :P Too bad you can't actually debate issues anymore, but hey, there are plenty of REAL discussion forums out there.


i think i see what you are saying. i posted in a thread a while ago about homosexuality, and i simply said that i was not at all interested in men sexually, and i was lambasted severely for being a bigot.

there seems to be a hyper vigilant hostility to anyone who posts anything that is not celebrating of homosexuality.
i am not a homosexual, and that makes me a bigot it seems, so i do not post anything about it any more.

were you lambasted by fellow members or by a moderator in an official capacity?

i don't think moderators are generally taking action with thread locking or warnings or anything unless it is more homophobic than a simple opinion about not being interested in having homosexual sex.


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09 Dec 2011, 11:15 am

hyperlexian wrote:
b9 wrote:
Ragtime wrote:
...meaning, you have to like homosexuality, or at least pretend you do.

So, goodbye, openminded WP! :P Too bad you can't actually debate issues anymore, but hey, there are plenty of REAL discussion forums out there.


i think i see what you are saying. i posted in a thread a while ago about homosexuality, and i simply said that i was not at all interested in men sexually, and i was lambasted severely for being a bigot.

there seems to be a hyper vigilant hostility to anyone who posts anything that is not celebrating of homosexuality.
i am not a homosexual, and that makes me a bigot it seems, so i do not post anything about it any more.

were you lambasted by fellow members or by a moderator in an official capacity?

i don't think moderators are generally taking action with thread locking or warnings or anything unless it is more homophobic than a simple opinion about not being interested in having homosexual sex.


it was members.



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09 Dec 2011, 11:43 am

b9 wrote:
i am not a homosexual, and that makes me a bigot it seems
No, it doesn't. It just means you are not homosexual.


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09 Dec 2011, 12:16 pm

Ragtime wrote:
...meaning, you have to like homosexuality, or at least pretend you do.

So, goodbye, openminded WP! :P Too bad you can't actually debate issues anymore, but hey, there are plenty of REAL discussion forums out there.


What issue is it that you would like to debate?

If all that you want to do is engage in fag-bashing, then I am sure that there are plenty of REAL discussion forums out there for you.

Is this "goodbye", as in "Adieu/Adios?" Or as in "Au Revoir/Hasta la Vista?"



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09 Dec 2011, 1:05 pm

Ragtime wrote:
...meaning, you have to like homosexuality, or at least pretend you do.

So, goodbye, openminded WP! :P Too bad you can't actually debate issues anymore, but hey, there are plenty of REAL discussion forums out there.


Bye!


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09 Dec 2011, 1:27 pm

Ragtime wrote:
...meaning, you have to like homosexuality, or at least pretend you do.

So, goodbye, openminded WP! :P Too bad you can't actually debate issues anymore, but hey, there are plenty of REAL discussion forums out there.


I am perfectly prepared to engage in a debate with you. What I am not prepared to do is countenance pretence. If you want to be honest about your opinions and express them respectfully, I will happily engage in debate with you about them. If you fail to meet either of those criteria then I will have nothing to do with you.


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09 Dec 2011, 1:49 pm

hyperlexian wrote:
read the rules (applicable portion bolded). you can have respectful debate, but as soon as you start crossing over into homophobia, it is no longer permitted.


Is it possible to say that you dislike homosexuality to the point where you believe it should be criminalised but that you respect other people's points of view, including that of homosexuals?

This doesn't apply to me, by the way.



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09 Dec 2011, 2:05 pm

The way I view it is, yeah, for reproductive purposes, homosexuality is "wrong" (if you want to use that word)...obviously they cannot produce offspring with one another, so why they would want to be together seems strange, as one of the primary purposes of life is to generate more of itself, and not only to survive but, ideally, to flourish. Homosexuality on the surface seems to run counter to this basic drive. But is it morally wrong? Not in my view. I view it as a form of natural population control, which at this point I think is needed. (Also they are more likely to adopt, I assume, than heterosexual couples. Take care of the kids that are already here, don't make more!) My guess is that if a study were to be done (perhaps it has, I should research this, though I don't know if the study would even be possible), we would find that there is a greater percentage of homosexuals today than at any other point in human history. Of course, like I said, this is a guess, mere speculation. But I don't think it's totally unlikely, or illogical to view homosexuality as a way to naturally curb population growth, which at this point seems to be detrimental to the whole. Also I think it is a part of the blurring of the line between the sexes. Today most men are more feminine than ever, and most women are more masculine than ever, which I don't view as a negative thing. I think it indicates greater harmony within the species, and within individuals (i.e. not supressing the anima/animus, but using it to one's advantage.)

(I hope I have not offended anyone with this post. I will say again, I do not view homosexuality as morally wrong, I am merely speculating as to the possible reasons for it, and why it seems to be becoming more prevalent.)


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09 Dec 2011, 2:11 pm

MarsCoban, homosexual people can breed like any other humans if they have intact sex organs and can pass on their genes to the next generation. being homosexual does not suddenly mean their eggs or sperm do not function normally. how they may choose to do so is of no consequence. so there is nothing wrong with them according to the parameters you have set out.


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