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26 Nov 2008, 4:33 am

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"LOL wow. Who drinks vodka raw? Generally you mix it with a juice to give it taste, unless your russian or some prepubiscent child who wants to be "kool""

I had to answer this.....I drink vodka raw...i cant stand the taste when you mix it....drink fast and you will quickly get past the taste.... 8)


The Russians drink vodka raw. They warm it up and sometimes add ground pepper, etc. If it's good enough quality, it loses the "taste" of vodka.


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26 Nov 2008, 11:44 am

I hate school.






But I have only one week left and then I graduate from college and am done for good! /dance


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26 Nov 2008, 12:13 pm

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I hate school.






But I have only one week left and then I graduate from college and am done for good! /dance

Lucky. I still got plenty to go.



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26 Nov 2008, 12:37 pm

Airborne wrote:
Kirska wrote:
I hate school.






But I have only one week left and then I graduate from college and am done for good! /dance

Lucky. I still got plenty to go.


I got one year of school left then I'm gonna do a Mercedes apprenticeship for two years :)



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26 Nov 2008, 12:49 pm

I got two years and two terms and few weeks to go before 6th Form. I'm just going to take subjects that I want to take for GCSE and A-level, cos you don't need specific qualifications to be a novelist. I quite wanted to do Hair and Beauty, but that'll be full of snobby cows so I ain't gonna. I just know I want to do Spanish and History. Only two people, myself included, want to do Spanish so far (from my class), which is strange as I would have thought the promise of a trip to the Canary Islands would have been ample persuasion. Sure was for me! :wink: And I want to do History because they start to teach interesting stuff in Year 10. But it's a very popular course so I might not get a place.


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26 Nov 2008, 12:52 pm

gina-ghettoprincess wrote:
I got two years and two terms and few weeks to go before 6th Form. I'm just going to take subjects that I want to take for GCSE and A-level, cos you don't need specific qualifications to be a novelist. I quite wanted to do Hair and Beauty, but that'll be full of snobby cows so I ain't gonna. I just know I want to do Spanish and History. Only two people, myself included, want to do Spanish so far (from my class), which is strange as I would have thought the promise of a trip to the Canary Islands would have been ample persuasion. Sure was for me! :wink: And I want to do History because they start to teach interesting stuff in Year 10. But it's a very popular course so I might not get a place.


You can learn Hair and Beuty in school! 8O Thats ridiculous!

A lot of creative people failed school, so you dont really need anything to be a novelist but good writing skills and creativity... In fact, Bill Gates, Richard Brandson and a bunch of other rich people dropped out or failed school, and look at where it got them!



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26 Nov 2008, 12:59 pm

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gina-ghettoprincess wrote:
I got two years and two terms and few weeks to go before 6th Form. I'm just going to take subjects that I want to take for GCSE and A-level, cos you don't need specific qualifications to be a novelist. I quite wanted to do Hair and Beauty, but that'll be full of snobby cows so I ain't gonna. I just know I want to do Spanish and History. Only two people, myself included, want to do Spanish so far (from my class), which is strange as I would have thought the promise of a trip to the Canary Islands would have been ample persuasion. Sure was for me! :wink: And I want to do History because they start to teach interesting stuff in Year 10. But it's a very popular course so I might not get a place.


You can learn Hair and Beuty in school! 8O Thats ridiculous!

A lot of creative people failed school, so you dont really need anything to be a novelist but good writing skills and creativity... In fact, Bill Gates, Richard Brandson and a bunch of other rich people dropped out or failed school, and look at where it got them!


It's one of the vocational courses for people who want to be a hairdresser or whatever.

Yeah, and what about Paris Hilton who reckons Wal-Mart sells wall stuff...NOT a good example for today's youth, but hey! :D


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26 Nov 2008, 1:13 pm

gina-ghettoprincess wrote:
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gina-ghettoprincess wrote:
I got two years and two terms and few weeks to go before 6th Form. I'm just going to take subjects that I want to take for GCSE and A-level, cos you don't need specific qualifications to be a novelist. I quite wanted to do Hair and Beauty, but that'll be full of snobby cows so I ain't gonna. I just know I want to do Spanish and History. Only two people, myself included, want to do Spanish so far (from my class), which is strange as I would have thought the promise of a trip to the Canary Islands would have been ample persuasion. Sure was for me! :wink: And I want to do History because they start to teach interesting stuff in Year 10. But it's a very popular course so I might not get a place.


You can learn Hair and Beuty in school! 8O Thats ridiculous!

A lot of creative people failed school, so you dont really need anything to be a novelist but good writing skills and creativity... In fact, Bill Gates, Richard Brandson and a bunch of other rich people dropped out or failed school, and look at where it got them!


It's one of the vocational courses for people who want to be a hairdresser or whatever.

Yeah, and what about Paris Hilton who reckons Wal-Mart sells wall stuff...NOT a good example for today's youth, but hey! :D


Wal-Mart is evil anyways, I hate the thing!



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27 Nov 2008, 2:47 pm

School made my head spin, I skipped a lot of it though , people were so polite yet not so accepting but anyway I wasn't a fan of school.


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29 Nov 2008, 7:41 am

Oh man, I've always hated school. Before I entered elementary school, I was so god damn eager to learn. I was looking forward to this great experience that would intellectually stimulate me while obtaining a ton of information. Well, it pretty much turned out to be the opposite. I'm a sophomore in college now, and sometime in between then and now, that spirit died. Then it was pissed on, burnt, pissed on again, and thrown in a garbage can.

Back in elementary school, though, my only real complaint was that school wasn't nearly as challenging as I wanted it to be. In first grade, only me and one other kid knew how to read. Yeah, we got to read with some old lady in the back of the classroom while all the other kids were learning "sounds", but Jeff (the other kid) and I both could have read much harder books than what they gave us. Then in 4th grade, I remember we spent about 2 months on long division. Jesus Christ, if I've never seen a bigger waste of time... Me and about 4 or 5 others were so beyond what they were teaching us, but they had us stuffed into a box. I've always been kind of resentful because of that...

The social problems really didn't arise until I hit middle school. I was bullied for those entire 3 years. Then 99% of the people who didn't bully me just treated me like s**t. People would try to slam my locker door on my head, call me "Fag" every single god damn day in the hallways. I could hardly stand it. It was such a hostile environment.

When I got to high school though, there wasn't so much outward bullying. Everyone just ignored and ostracized me instead. I remember that in most of my classes, I'd be the only one without any friends. I used to be in the IHS program, which meant that for my core classes, I was with the same people for 2 1/2 years (I dropped out in the middle of junior year). I didn't even have a "table" at lunch until senior year. By that point, all school was for me was "Go to class, sit down for 80 minutes, leave, repeat." I felt like a hollow shell at that point. It didn't feel like going to school really had any point except for getting into college. The only class I was learning anything in was Calculus (AP Physics and "Economics" were a joke).

Then I got into college. Woo-hoo, it's full of archetypal So-Cal partiers who just talk like this: "Hahaha, chyeeeeahhh duuuude, I got like, so like, wasted last night." It's a f*****g prep-fest, just like my high school. Not only that, but it's not really very challenging either. Well, actually, they kind of "challenge" you, but not in a good way. Most of how they challenge you is by hiding information. Uhh, I thought I came to school to "learn". Then my writing classes were kind of hard, but that's because I hardly learned to write in K-12. Seriously, I think I had to write 6 papers the whole time I was in high school. Each of them were 2 pages long (compared to 5 in my college writing classes).

I'm doing kind of poorly in my Computer Science class right now, because the professor is an incompetent dickwad. I keep telling him that I need him to HELP me with the god damn concepts, but he seriously flat-out REFUSES. Instead he just keeps making me do stupid s**t like going to "Academic Learning Services" to learn how to study or something. Then he tells me to read the book, which doesn't help. It doesn't have examples that are anything like what we're supposed to be programming. Not only that, but I can almost never learn from books. I have to see an example to get an idea. Oh, and the other day, he sends me an e-mail pretty much saying "I'm worried about you struggling on the last 2 assignments, I think you should go to the Office of Disability Services". Then he pretty much blames me for not getting anything done, because he somehow thinks that he's "helped" me. Haha, what a joke. He doesn't know I have AS, but I'm not going to go to any "Disability Office". It's like he's trying to make excuses not to help me. He also won't even take a look at anything I do unless I write down the 'pseudocode'. But I don't even know where to start, so I can't write anything down! I responded to his stupid e-mail, and told him what I'm having trouble with, and pretty much said that I usually need to be guided along briefly before I can learn the concept. I'm figuring that if my concerns are written out in front of him, he might actually bother to read them and take them into consideration. If not, though, I'm probably going to pay someone in my class to help me.
Then there was the crappy grad student who taught my Intermediate Macroeconomic Theory class (that I got a C- in, because he sucked), but I won't get started on him, because I'm too tired.

I can see why so many smart people are disenchanted with the system. It's so much rubbish. The people suck, the teachers can really suck (which is bad, because you're virtually at their mercy). The system is horribly ineffective and doesn't teach you much. In college, they make you take all these stupid "Gen Ed" classes, which are just a waste of time and money. My best friend and I are actually thinking about writing a book that's just a large critique on the education system as a whole.



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29 Nov 2008, 12:53 pm

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Oh man, I've always hated school. Before I entered elementary school, I was so god damn eager to learn. I was looking forward to this great experience that would intellectually stimulate me while obtaining a ton of information. Well, it pretty much turned out to be the opposite. I'm a sophomore in college now, and sometime in between then and now, that spirit died. Then it was pissed on, burnt, pissed on again, and thrown in a garbage can.

Back in elementary school, though, my only real complaint was that school wasn't nearly as challenging as I wanted it to be. In first grade, only me and one other kid knew how to read. Yeah, we got to read with some old lady in the back of the classroom while all the other kids were learning "sounds", but Jeff (the other kid) and I both could have read much harder books than what they gave us. Then in 4th grade, I remember we spent about 2 months on long division. Jesus Christ, if I've never seen a bigger waste of time... Me and about 4 or 5 others were so beyond what they were teaching us, but they had us stuffed into a box. I've always been kind of resentful because of that...

The social problems really didn't arise until I hit middle school. I was bullied for those entire 3 years. Then 99% of the people who didn't bully me just treated me like sh**. People would try to slam my locker door on my head, call me "Fag" every single god damn day in the hallways. I could hardly stand it. It was such a hostile environment.

When I got to high school though, there wasn't so much outward bullying. Everyone just ignored and ostracized me instead. I remember that in most of my classes, I'd be the only one without any friends. I used to be in the IHS program, which meant that for my core classes, I was with the same people for 2 1/2 years (I dropped out in the middle of junior year). I didn't even have a "table" at lunch until senior year. By that point, all school was for me was "Go to class, sit down for 80 minutes, leave, repeat." I felt like a hollow shell at that point. It didn't feel like going to school really had any point except for getting into college. The only class I was learning anything in was Calculus (AP Physics and "Economics" were a joke).

Then I got into college. Woo-hoo, it's full of archetypal So-Cal partiers who just talk like this: "Hahaha, chyeeeeahhh duuuude, I got like, so like, wasted last night." It's a f***ing prep-fest, just like my high school. Not only that, but it's not really very challenging either. Well, actually, they kind of "challenge" you, but not in a good way. Most of how they challenge you is by hiding information. Uhh, I thought I came to school to "learn". Then my writing classes were kind of hard, but that's because I hardly learned to write in K-12. Seriously, I think I had to write 6 papers the whole time I was in high school. Each of them were 2 pages long (compared to 5 in my college writing classes).

I'm doing kind of poorly in my Computer Science class right now, because the professor is an incompetent dickwad. I keep telling him that I need him to HELP me with the god damn concepts, but he seriously flat-out REFUSES. Instead he just keeps making me do stupid sh** like going to "Academic Learning Services" to learn how to study or something. Then he tells me to read the book, which doesn't help. It doesn't have examples that are anything like what we're supposed to be programming. Not only that, but I can almost never learn from books. I have to see an example to get an idea. Oh, and the other day, he sends me an e-mail pretty much saying "I'm worried about you struggling on the last 2 assignments, I think you should go to the Office of Disability Services". Then he pretty much blames me for not getting anything done, because he somehow thinks that he's "helped" me. Haha, what a joke. He doesn't know I have AS, but I'm not going to go to any "Disability Office". It's like he's trying to make excuses not to help me. He also won't even take a look at anything I do unless I write down the 'pseudocode'. But I don't even know where to start, so I can't write anything down! I responded to his stupid e-mail, and told him what I'm having trouble with, and pretty much said that I usually need to be guided along briefly before I can learn the concept. I'm figuring that if my concerns are written out in front of him, he might actually bother to read them and take them into consideration. If not, though, I'm probably going to pay someone in my class to help me.
Then there was the crappy grad student who taught my Intermediate Macroeconomic Theory class (that I got a C- in, because he sucked), but I won't get started on him, because I'm too tired.

I can see why so many smart people are disenchanted with the system. It's so much rubbish. The people suck, the teachers can really suck (which is bad, because you're virtually at their mercy). The system is horribly ineffective and doesn't teach you much. In college, they make you take all these stupid "Gen Ed" classes, which are just a waste of time and money. My best friend and I are actually thinking about writing a book that's just a large critique on the education system as a whole.

Haha thats kinda how I viewed elementary school too.... Science and "Reading" Class were like eating cake, I had a 109 average in science as I already knew everything about how electricity flows and all that jazz as well as knowing the table of elements completely, reading are stupid ELA and IOWA test I scored almost off the charts on vocab and reading. Math on the other hand...I am terrible at math TERRIBLE i hate it so much.



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29 Nov 2008, 10:10 pm

School basically engineered my persona, but not in the way that they wanted. But all in all, I don't hate school, but I don't exactly love it. I met some of the best people I know in school, but I also met some of the people I really despise in school as well.



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10 Dec 2008, 3:09 pm

Approach your teachers and say to them loud and clear at the start of every class "I DON'T WANT TO BE HERE."

Will they kick you out for it? If they do, will your parents give you s**t for it? It wouldn't give them the moral high ground to take a stand against honesty like that, would it?

I wish schools would take a strict "If you don't want to be here, we don't want you here" stand on non-compulsory students, even if they are forced to go by their parents.



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14 Dec 2008, 6:14 am

School, you speak words of evil.

*Draws a cross, on my body.*

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01 Jan 2009, 9:48 pm

School has GREATLY contributed to my strong hatred and distrust of people. Seriously, the s**t I had to endure as a child/teenager has caused me to despise (with a burning passion) just about everyone except my family and the few good friends that I do have. And because of all that I went through, I either socialize on my own terms, or not at all.
People suck.
And my research into AS/history/politics/human nature has only made me hate people even more than I already did before my diagnosis.
Throughout most of my time in school, I was teased, bullied, ignored, ostracized, humiliated from time to time, treated like an idiot from time to time, had to put up with incompetent teachers as well as poorly-run school administrations - and I was generally just s**t upon by students and staff alike in more ways than one. I barely learned anything until I was put into the nonpublic schooling system (for all the good it did me - at least I have my diploma). The American education system as a whole is nothing but a f**king joke.
The United States REALLY needs to take a few hints from other countries in order to improve its own sh***y education system.

With that said, I am truly thankful that my parents decided to homeschool my three siblings - they're MUCH better off now than I was at their age. And screw the 'lack of socialization' aspect - the vast majority of people are simply not worth dealing with anyhow. And whatever social skills my siblings need to learn, will likely be taught to them by my parents. Hopefully their journey to an education won't turn them into bitter, cynical and hateful monsters like me.



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School has GREATLY contributed to my strong hatred and distrust of people. Seriously, the sh** I had to endure as a child/teenager has caused me to despise (with a burning passion) just about everyone except my family and the few good friends that I do have. And because of all that I went through, I either socialize on my own terms, or not at all.
People suck.
And my research into AS/history/politics/human nature has only made me hate people even more than I already did before my diagnosis.
Throughout most of my time in school, I was teased, bullied, ignored, ostracized, humiliated from time to time, treated like an idiot from time to time, had to put up with incompetent teachers as well as poorly-run school administrations - and I was generally just sh** upon by students and staff alike in more ways than one. I barely learned anything until I was put into the nonpublic schooling system (for all the good it did me - at least I have my diploma). The American education system as a whole is nothing but a f**king joke.
The United States REALLY needs to take a few hints from other countries in order to improve its own sh***y education system.

With that said, I am truly thankful that my parents decided to homeschool my three siblings - they're MUCH better off now than I was at their age. And screw the 'lack of socialization' aspect - the vast majority of people are simply not worth dealing with anyhow. And whatever social skills my siblings need to learn, will likely be taught to them by my parents. Hopefully their journey to an education won't turn them into bitter, cynical and hateful monsters like me.


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I am with you on this. I want to be able to socialize on my own terms but I don't think NTs understand me when I speak. My fiance says I use too many big words towards people and I like to keep talking about the same thing for a long time. The problem is is that I can go into depth about that one thing that most NTs cannot. To me, NTs talk about nothing. They talk about stuff that to me seems pointless and irrelevent. I mean you can't even keep your hand in a certain way that is comfortable to you or they think you're a ret*d. This tells me they do not look beyond the surface of things.

I really am ready to withdraw from society myself and just to most of my socialization online and mainly with you guys.