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WhiteWidow
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21 Dec 2011, 1:58 pm

I have no idea how they came to this formula, because I see it a totally different way. I understand the entire theory behind it. it's simple, but their formula is ass backwards in my mind

x = 100 / (1.05)30 and apparently it equals 23.14 somehow. That formula is to find how much money you would need to invest to get 100 dollars after 30 years



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21 Dec 2011, 2:05 pm

Widow, I'm no mathematician, but one factor omitted is whether the interest is compounded, and if so, at what period. In other words, if interest is compounded quarterly, principle of one hundred dollars at, say, ten percent per annum would mean that after the first quarter, the principle would become $102.50 instead of an even hundred dollars. I've heard that in some situations, interest can be compounded to the principle on a daily basis.

It seems to me you are assuming that the interest would only be compounded annually.



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21 Dec 2011, 2:08 pm

Dunnyveg wrote:
Widow, I'm no mathematician, but one factor omitted is whether the interest is compounded, and if so, at what period. In other words, if interest is compounded quarterly, principle of one hundred dollars at, say, ten percent per annum would mean that after the first quarter, the principle would become $102.50 instead of an even hundred dollars. I've heard that in some situations, interest can be compounded to the principle on a daily basis.

It seems to me you are assuming that the interest would only be compounded annually.


That's what i was thinking. 1 equals 1 year at 5 percent interest. but what about the 23.14?

It is compounded annualy. The question is relating to annunity's



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21 Dec 2011, 3:11 pm

Don't understand a lot of the terms used, but it should be [starting money] = [end result] / ( ( [interest rate] + 1 ) ^ [years to wait] ), or in this case, x=100/(1.05^30)



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27 Dec 2011, 3:58 am

Think of it this way.
1.05^30 = 4.322
100/4,322= $23.14

In other words, if you invested $23.14 into something, and let it sit there and make a constant 5% each year, you'd have $100 after 30.

Or:
Year 0: $23.14
Year 1: $23.14 * 1.05
Year 2: $23.14 * 1.05 * 1.05 = $23.14 * (1.05^2)
Year n: $23.14 * (1.05^n)



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01 Mar 2012, 5:07 pm

WhiteWidow wrote:
I have no idea how they came to this formula, because I see it a totally different way. I understand the entire theory behind it. it's simple, but their formula is ass backwards in my mind

x = 100 / (1.05)30 and apparently it equals 23.14 somehow. That formula is to find how much money you would need to invest to get 100 dollars after 30 years


If I could glance at my economics textbook for about a minute I could easily answer your question:

I think the formula used by JoeR43 is correct, we just did it different in class:

X = 100
Let N = Growth rate
Let Y = Starting rate (In this case 0)

If Y = REAL #, how big does N have to be so that Y^N = X?