Why do NT Males Hoot Like Gibbons?

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28 May 2023, 5:58 pm

My current roommates are the absolute worse, and this is one of many antisocial behaviors they engage in. I’m just curious to as why they feel the need to do this, it’s extremely obnoxious and not in the least bit entertaining. If you’ve ever listened to the audience in a sporting event you’ll know what I’m talking about.


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28 May 2023, 8:44 pm

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Why do NT Males Hoot Like Gibbons?
Why not?  A loud 'hoot' is one of the easiest noises to make.  Would you rather they sat still and silent like marble statues?


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28 May 2023, 8:50 pm

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Why do NT Males Hoot Like Gibbons?
Why not?  A loud 'hoot' is one of the easiest noises to make.  Would you rather they sat still and silent like marble statues?


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28 May 2023, 10:00 pm

Is this limited to NT males, or are just assuming that because it's not something you engage in?

I grew up watching the fine programming on Fox, and therefore need to be reminded to refrain.


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03 Jun 2023, 3:10 am

Fnord wrote:
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Why do NT Males Hoot Like Gibbons?
Why not?  A loud 'hoot' is one of the easiest noises to make.  Would you rather they sat still and silent like marble statues?


Maybe because it serves no purpose and is EXTREMELY inconsiderate? And yes, I would rather they be silent, especially considering that it's TWO IN THE MORNING AND THESE as*holes ARE STILL DOING IT! I swear I'm *this* close from calling the police.


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03 Jun 2023, 3:16 am

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Is this limited to NT males, or are just assuming that because it's not something you engage in?

I grew up watching the fine programming on Fox, and therefore need to be reminded to refrain.



What these people are doing is far more aggressive than the cheering displayed in the clip.


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03 Jun 2023, 3:31 am

Take whatever steps you can to mitigate that situation. Consider also that we Humans are indeed apes, so it is no mystery that people are going to act like apes from time to time. It's not just NTs, either. Most all of us have the capacity to make annoying noises.


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03 Jun 2023, 3:44 am

mrpieceofwork wrote:
Consider also that we Humans are indeed apes, so it is no mystery that people are going to act like apes from time to time.


^this seems correct.

It is frightening to me as a woman to be confronted by a load of hooting men so I too wish they wouldn't do it.


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03 Jun 2023, 5:09 am

No, apes, humans, monkeys, and orangutans are hominids, each forming a different branch of the family Hominidae.


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03 Jun 2023, 12:45 pm

Ape is synonymous with Hominoidea. Hominoidea consists of two families:

The family Hylobatidae, the lesser apes, include four genera and a total of 20 species of gibbon, including the lar gibbon and the siamang, all native to Asia. They are highly arboreal and bipedal on the ground. They have lighter bodies and smaller social groups than great apes.

The family Hominidae (hominids), the great apes, include four genera comprising three extant species of orangutans and their subspecies, two extant species of gorillas and their subspecies, two extant species of panins (bonobos and chimpanzees) and their subspecies, and humans in a single extant subspecies.


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03 Jun 2023, 2:44 pm

I love this conversation, it's so autistic :heart:

I mean: someone has a social problem and the rest of us start arguing about the scientific aspects of the situation :lol:


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03 Jun 2023, 2:56 pm

I know, right? I just used "ape" because I was, like... "stream of conscious typing". I do like the "feedback", though. Always learning.


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03 Jun 2023, 3:05 pm

Yes I'm laughing WITH people not AT them :)


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03 Jun 2023, 3:26 pm

I know what you mean.... groups of "normal" young men will get over-excited about the slightest thing and be all "Ohhhhhhhhhha!! !! !! Ah! Heyyyyyyyyyyyyy! Yuik-yuik-yuik-yuik-yuik!" which gets very tiresome when you're just trying to go about your life as an easily startled mammal.

Actual gibbons would make awful roommates because they like singing at the tops of their voices at 6AM.



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03 Jun 2023, 3:38 pm

Fnord wrote:
No, apes, humans, monkeys, and orangutans are hominids, each forming a different branch of the family Hominidae.


No.
Humans are a type of African ape. In the same clade as Chimps, gorillas, and bonobos.

African apes are in turn a subset of the "great apes". Which includes the Asian orangutan.

Which is in turn nested in the "ape" clade which includes the "lesser apes" (gibbons).

Actually...the same as what Funeral said.



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03 Jun 2023, 3:45 pm

PhosphorusDecree wrote:
I know what you mean.... groups of "normal" young men will get over-excited about the slightest thing and be all "Ohhhhhhhhhha!! ! ! ! ! Ah! Heyyyyyyyyyyyyy! Yuik-yuik-yuik-yuik-yuik!" which gets very tiresome when you're just trying to go about your life as an easily startled mammal.

Actual gibbons would make awful roommates because they like singing at the tops of their voices at 6AM.





The other African apes (chimps and gorillas) seem to have lost all musical ability. We humans seem to be the lone African ape to conserve musical ability from our common ancestors with our more far removed cousins:the gibbons . Male orangutans have bags of flesh around their faces that seem to be voice resonators, but they dont use them for that purpose anymore. Also a retention from a past when they did use their voices more.