does anyone else here actually like statistics?

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statistics statistic -Did you take stats in uni/college ...if so did you like it?
Poll ended at 06 Sep 2010, 12:36 pm
I never took stats in college/ university 17%  17%  [ 2 ]
I took stats and I liked it 58%  58%  [ 7 ]
I took stats and it sucks - it is too easy and therefore boring 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
I took stats and it sucks-it is too hard 8%  8%  [ 1 ]
I took stats and it sucks - it is just boring 17%  17%  [ 2 ]
I took stats and do not have a strong opinion about it 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
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11 Dec 2010, 1:30 am

Perhaps of some interest

BBC4: "The Joy of Stats"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00wgq0l



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11 Dec 2010, 10:09 pm

I love stats. And math.



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13 Dec 2010, 9:39 pm

I used to think statistics are mere discriptors of empirical data. They are, but they are so much more. They are a way of ordering the natural world and all of its chaos, and making it something that humans can comprehend.

I only took two semesters of university statistics, and forgot most of the advanced stuff. If I were better at math, though, I'd be a statistician.



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04 Jan 2011, 12:45 am

I never took statistics, but I started listening to statistics on KhanAcademy, and since then I've been analysing huge data sets in excel for funsies :) I'm planning on fiddling with the human genome soon, but I think 3 x 10^9 data points might be a bit of a strain on my PC :)



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04 Jan 2011, 1:11 am

ryan93 wrote:
I've been analysing huge data sets in excel for funsies :)

You should never use Excel for stats; it has a lot of basic errors in how it performs statistical tests and Microsoft refuses to fix them. I've even seen it produce negative r^2 values.

For real statistical work, you should use the R programming language.

If you want a spreadsheet program for playing with data, I would recommend Gnumeric.

They're both free, so you can get them and play with them without paying any money.


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04 Jan 2011, 1:53 am

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For real statistical work, you should use the R programming language.


I've played with R once or twice, but I find it too unintuitive. What I like about excel is that in one column you can can have a data set X, in another you have F(x), and so one. You can compose functions in a very intuitive way, and it's easy to filter and manipulate data according to it's address. It's easy to manipulate one number in R, but data sets are impossible without using spreadsheet, at least for an uneducated freshman like me :lol:

Gnumerics does look promising though, thanks a lot for the recommendation. I just hope it's not lacking too many features



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04 Jan 2011, 11:42 am

ryan93 wrote:
I've played with R once or twice, but I find it too unintuitive. What I like about excel is that in one column you can can have a data set X, in another you have F(x), and so one. You can compose functions in a very intuitive way, and it's easy to filter and manipulate data according to it's address. It's easy to manipulate one number in R, but data sets are impossible without using spreadsheet, at least for an uneducated freshman like me :lol:

R is a very different paradigm; it is a whole programming language after all. The learning curve is steep, but it is worth it.

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Gnumerics does look promising though, thanks a lot for the recommendation. I just hope it's not lacking too many features

Features are implemented differently than in Excel, so it may take some getting used to, but nothing important is missing. There's even a lot of cool stuff in there that Excel doesn't have.


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