I love learning, but don't like school

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EccentricCreative
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15 May 2011, 12:30 am

I was the same. I love learning...still do...but my life was hell when I was at school and even worse when I just refused to keep going.

How can there be so many people being deprived of an education, and having their rights violated, all in the name of ...... compulsory education?

I recognise the importance of an education. It is so important that compulsory schooling must be scrapped (or completely overhauled) as it interferes with the education of many.
I agree that the provision of education must be compulsory (ie. governments must give people the facilities) but then students must be free to choose their preferred approach, and their preferred mentors/teachers/etc., or even choose just to teach their self.

Students are yet another "stolen generation".
What happened to us is likely not as bad as what happened to the people who inhabited these lands before my ignorant ancestors showed up, but a loss of freedom no matter how small will always have the potential to be devastating.



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21 May 2011, 11:58 pm

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As it should be... you'd have to be a creatively devoid sheep to enjoy school as is. The acquisition of knowledge is encouraged, but only alongside nonsense like grades and mandatory tuition fees that fund football stadiums for a losing team.


100% agreed. People should hate school as it is. There is no room to be creative or insightful. It is just authoritarian knowledge. I just gave up pretending I like college, and I absolutely hate it. I like knowledge. I hate the institution.

Albert Einstein, Mark Twain, and Nikola Tesla also disliked college (and college hated them).

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Mark Twain once said this great statement. "I have never let school interfere with my education."


Did you know Mark Twain and Nikola Tesla were best friends? Twain often hung out with Tesla in his laboratory. Oh, and I did not learn that from school. =)

I learn so much more when I am free than tied down to a desk. I think it is the nature of our species and education has just not caught up yet.

Here's a picture with Mark Twain in Nikola Tesla's laboratory:

http://peswiki.com/images/9/97/TwainTeslaLab.jpg


lol. it happened to be part of my signiture.

I can totally relate. I never really understand much from lectures in high school. The teachers' attempt to make things "easier" and "fun" are simply nuisances to me and my learning.

I didn't do much of my homework and I got detentions almost everyday after school in my last 2 years of high school as my after school activity. I surprised everyone by making a super good grade on the public exam after one month of study break at home with no homework and non-sense but i really thought i wasn't gonna go to college cuz school interfered with my education too much. i also got some extreme test anxiety from the pressure that time where i was really on the blink of hurting myself.

but as it turned out, it was fine. I am really glad i went to college. lectures are less about non-sense in colleges. And instead of messing up with your brain with the "easier way" they figured out themselves, professors in college actually have something to tell you in an individualistic way. Like instead of trying to treat everyone like dumbasses like themselves, they would try to make you understand their own thinking, it affects your thinking on a personal level. I thought that was really precious.

It's undeniable that school work are sometime still in the way of your education. My friend that was an assistant professor once said that one of the latent functions of education is to make a person feel like they are stupid and incapable, so that they would more likely to be obedient in faced of authorities and rules in society in the future. And plus, putting up with all the non-sense and requirements gives you trainings for what you might get from your boss when you are really working. So education really isn't just about learning knowledge, but also training of future labor.

But not all lectures are like that, and not all school work are like that. My philosophy professor has really loose requirement when it comes to formating of our work, but would really try to understand what you have to say in your work. i was a freakin freshmen when I had his senior class last semester, i knew very little about the philosophical terms and stuff but he would still try to understand and make sense out of what i was saying. He really valued my opinion even tho my thoughts could be really messy and unorganized.

I talked to him one time out of class, and I told him about my troubled times in high school and told him that Mark Twain once said he tried not to let schooling interfere with his education. He laughed and he laughed. And he said he was going to remember that quote.

I think i am really lucky, I got thru that dark phase of my life with schooling and I really enjoy school right now. But it's not like there is really a guarantee that you will meet sensible teachers in college, and everyone was different, so i guess you do have a point.


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23 May 2011, 6:53 am

Hi there! I saw your post & I got to know that you love doing study but not like to go to school. That’s ok but I just want to give my views that school is a not only for study; it’s also like a social place where you meet different kinds of people & learn to communicate with each other. It is the place where you can increase your thinking skills more powerfully by exchanging the ideas with others. By going school, you make many friends, some are for some time, whereas some for lifelong that help you during the laugh and distress. This can definitely increase your confidence & can lead the world.



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23 May 2011, 4:55 pm

anjila wrote:
Hi there! I saw your post & I got to know that you love doing study but not like to go to school. That’s ok but I just want to give my views that school is a not only for study; it’s also like a social place where you meet different kinds of people & learn to communicate with each other. It is the place where you can increase your thinking skills more powerfully by exchanging the ideas with others. By going school, you make many friends, some are for some time, whereas some for lifelong that help you during the laugh and distress. This can definitely increase your confidence & can lead the world.


I had no social skills at all. I couldn't afford nice clothes, my house was a dump, and I could never connect with anyone.



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24 May 2011, 7:11 pm

School made me hate learning. It wasn't until not too long ago that I realized that learning and school are two different things, and unlike school, learning isn't lame.


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25 May 2011, 10:46 pm

I would normally zone out in school. I taught everything myself. I would cram too by learning a couple of weeks of lectures in a few days, causing myself a lot of unnecessary stress.

Learning is awesome when you have a passion for something and can learn it alone.



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01 Jun 2011, 1:04 am

Oh yes! What is the point of being tested on what someone else has discovered? Its just 2nd hand learning right? They kill the freedom of thought and bash you for scoring low on pointless exams! One of my profs actually told me my answers though right were far from what he had in mind and that I need to work harder. I never study for my exams and only listen in class but when I am in my lab (I am in grad school now and I love my lab) I am in my own other world of my interests. I loved practicals in school..!



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12 Dec 2015, 6:49 pm

Yes, its exactly the same for me. Im at university now, and although i am enjoying it, i feel like i am incredibly restricted in what i can and cant learn, as well as with the deadlines for my essays.



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16 Dec 2015, 6:31 pm

I know I like all the subjects (except grammer), but I still can't take the sensory overload... That and I openly express my autism so they Alienate me. It also is way to slow... I do the work in like 20 minutes then bored the rest of the time. Also, My teachers tend to like me, because I am much more well behaved then any of their students. Another thing is Schools never let me have Special ed as a option. I Think every teacher, I had though I was quite brilliant. I love read, writing (Except the fine motor skill part.), and even Researching. I just can't stand the noise and the chaos all the Neurotypicals cause. That and I can't do one of my main stims.


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18 Dec 2015, 1:59 am

Have you tried going to attending a online school? Most colleges are switching to online schooling.



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18 Dec 2015, 2:07 am

Edison had a very little formal education as a child



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18 Dec 2015, 9:33 am

Yes, it's not at all easy to deal with pressure upon something which you're passionate about. It's like if you were playing a game and you only had a set amount of time to play through it all. Pressure negatively affects performance, I've found this numerous times. It's gotten to a stage where I'm no longer checking my deadlines for my online courses and just reading whatever I feel comfortable with reading, and doing whatever I feel comfortable with doing. It's going to make me fail the course, no doubt, but I've found a little too late that I'm not dealing well with, "Read chapter n before x date."


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29 Dec 2015, 1:51 am

frenchmanflats wrote:
Edison had a very little formal education as a child


rockefeller dropped out at 16 and his goal was to earn 100,000...in his lifetime.

and let's not forget steve jobs spent only one semester at reed.


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29 Dec 2015, 9:10 am

It was easier to get by without formal education in the old days.

In Edison's time, very few people even graduated high school. A "grammar school" education was the norm in those days. Making it to 8th grade was a big deal.

I learned quite a bit in my life--but not really in school until I got to high school. I still don't like sitting in class listening to lectures. When I was in college, I used to just follow the syllabus, do the readings, contribute in class (usually in response to someone else), and just tolerated the lectures.

I hated going to school---especially those schools that had the sulfur stink bombs. And the crappy lunches. And the scornful teachers. And the bullies.