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Oh I thought there might be some mix-up iamnotaparakeet. Well Wikipedia does call case a form of declension for what it's worth.
Croatian.
Btw, since I'm still a student and faaaar from being proficient, either I or any of you could ask over there for anything not clear - there are some proper Latin tutors over there who really know all there is to know about Latin.
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No worries
- it's a forum just like this one filled with Latin enthusiasts. They are tutors by vocation, but are not charging anything! that whole forum is like this thread multiplied many times. They're happy to answer any question.
It's this forum - I posted the link on the first page: http://latindiscussion.com/forum/
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16 Sep 2011, 3:33 pm
You learnt Macedonian? How cool is that!
I wouldn't say that it's easier than Croatian - from what I know they use Cyrillic script and have a suffixed definite article! Croatian doesn't have any, but just like Latin uses demonstrative pronouns instead of the articles. I just saw the explanation of declensions, very informative, thank you!
Okay I'm gonna try some exercises with first-declension nouns.
Nominative: mathematic-a
Genitive: mathematic-ae
Dative: mathematic-ae
Accusative: mathematic-am
Ablative: mathematic-a
Vocative: mathematic-a
Locative: mathematic-ae
Plural
Nominative: mathematic-ae
Genitive: mathematic-arum
Dative: mathematic-is
Accusative: mathematic-as
Ablative: mathematic-is
Vocative: mathematic-ae
Locative: mathematic-is
Fenestra, "window".
Barba, "beard".
Nauta, "salior".
Ira, "anger".
Gloria, "glory"
The beard of the sailor gives the sailor glory.
Barba nautae nautae gloriam gives.
(I don't know the word for 'gives' so I'm just putting 'gives' in there stupid as it looks.)
The glory of the window gives the beards of the sailors anger.
Gloria fenestrae barbis nautarum iram gives.
The windows give glory to the anger of the sailors.
Fenestrae irae nautarum gloriam give.
to give is do, 1, dedi, datum
You can use Wiktionary for all formats of the verb: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/do#Latin
I just find this - perhaps you might find it useful: http://www.gutenberg.org/files/18251/18 ... egin1.html
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16 Sep 2011, 3:54 pm
I suppose it would be good to show the inflection of some verb conjugations.
First conjugation verbal form, present active indicative:
Vastare, "to destroy"
Singular:
1st person: vast-o (I destroy)
2nd person: vast-as (you destroy)
3rd person: vast-at (he/she/it destroys)
Plural:
1st person: vast-amus (we destroy)
2nd person: vast-atis (ye destroy)
3rd person: vast-ant (they destroy)
Some other verbs of this sort, in infinitive form, are: ambulare "to traverse", clamare "to shout", damnare "to condemn, sentence, curse", pugnare "to fight".
Second verbal conjugation form, present active indicative:
Videre, "to see."
Singular:
1st person: vid-eo (I see)
2nd person: vid-es (you see) [ Videsne? "Do you see???!" 
]
3rd person: vid-et (he/she/it sees)
Plural:
1st person: vid-emus (we see)
2nd person: vid-etis (ye see)
3rd person: vid-ent (they see)
And for more verbs here are a few: habere "to have possession of", monere "to warn", terrere "to frighten", timere "to be afraid", debere "to ought to, or to owe".
Also, a combination of verbs in this manner is useful: (inflected verb) + (infinitive verb), such as habemus + monere, "we have to warn", or debemus vastare, "we should destroy". Etc.
17 Sep 2011, 5:58 am
I've been pondering learning a bit of latin, but I'm not sure of the best approach. I'm interested in it for family history purposes - I'm at the point now where most of the sources I need to be examining are in medieval latin. Can't quite work out if studying classical latin is the best approach. A lot of the difficulties are with reading the handwriting in the first place, and dealing with the conventions for abbreviations - e.g. "John" appears as "Johannes", but is usually abbreviated to "Johes", or sometimes it appears as an object e.g. "... filius Johem". (This may be abbreviated even further to "... fil' Joh")
I wonder if anyone could let me know how far their latin skills get them with reading an example like this that I got from the National Archives...
http://i54.tinypic.com/15hzmhf.jpg
Hmm, the captcha I had to solve to upload the pic was only slightly easier than reading the latin 
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