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I think college is
For me; Offers fun, learning 79%  79%  [ 22 ]
Not for me; Feel akward and alone there + teachers are mean 21%  21%  [ 6 ]
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07 Jan 2007, 2:55 pm

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After many miserable school failures, I have concluded that my troubles result from my lack of respect for the education system because I don't care about the grade. It is the last thing I worry about in a class. It drives my professors absolutely crazy, but I have been lucky to get some good ones, and they kind of "tweak" requirements to fit my autodidactic learning style. (I wouldn't go so far so to say they were giving me special favors, but after I hand in one or two of their "BS" assignments, I calmly explain to them that I would rather focus my attention on subject X and could I use that as some of the assignments instead of dropping the more complex subject X in favor of subject Y, especially since subject X has its foundations in subject Y? Usually, the professor agrees, and then also agrees to kind of mentor me and direct my reading.)

Of course, I sometimes am guilty of using the "inverse GPA/learning" argument when I am trying to rationalize my behavior. It is a scapegoat, I guess.

That is not surprising. I think that aspies tend to care less about grades than other groups, I mean, I think that I care less about my grade than most others in my performance bracket. I'd say that it isn't an inverse relationship so much as your learning may have a significantly weaker correlation with the grade achieved leading to you learning a lot while having a greater possibility of a weak grade.



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07 Jan 2007, 6:29 pm

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That is not surprising. I think that aspies tend to care less about grades than other groups, I mean, I think that I care less about my grade than most others in my performance bracket. I'd say that it isn't an inverse relationship so much as your learning may have a significantly weaker correlation with the grade achieved leading to you learning a lot while having a greater possibility of a weak grade.


So with me, the more time I invest in learning, the higher the probability of me scoring a lower grade compared to my peers, whereas my overall knowledge base and understanding of the material is at least equal to (but usually significantly greater than) that of my peers. That is a fact, and unless I can convince a professor that I learn differently and get better results if I can just focus on a test rather than a bunch of small assignments, my GPA suffers. If the professor agrees, the inverse relationship disappears, and my my GPA is an actual reflection of knowledge, while if the professor basically tells me to get over it, there is a definite inverse relationship between GPA and actual understanding. This is why I tend to excel in upper division "hard" classes without a bunch of assignments to pad a grade versus lower division courses full of assignments.


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07 Jan 2007, 7:22 pm

I like it ok. I use it as a learning experience. When I went to community college I picked a lot of classes that appealed to my interests. So, at least that's one thing about college that's better than highschool, having more choices.


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07 Jan 2007, 7:47 pm

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So with me, the more time I invest in learning, the higher the probability of me scoring a lower grade compared to my peers, whereas my overall knowledge base and understanding of the material is at least equal to (but usually significantly greater than) that of my peers. That is a fact, and unless I can convince a professor that I learn differently and get better results if I can just focus on a test rather than a bunch of small assignments, my GPA suffers. If the professor agrees, the inverse relationship disappears, and my my GPA is an actual reflection of knowledge, while if the professor basically tells me to get over it, there is a definite inverse relationship between GPA and actual understanding. This is why I tend to excel in upper division "hard" classes without a bunch of assignments to pad a grade versus lower division courses full of assignments.

That could be it, considering your issue is with homework. I suppose different models suit different folks, if it had been anything but a problem with homework such as a dislike of papers or certain test formats, then it would probably be learning independent which was my first inclination to think. I am glad though, that my classes didn't require much homework this semester, I just hope that they aren't strongly pro-homework next semester. I don't think that they will be though.



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07 Jan 2007, 8:46 pm

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I like it ok. I use it as a learning experience. When I went to community college I picked a lot of classes that appealed to my interests. So, at least that's one thing about college that's better than highschool, having more choices.

Unless you are an engineering major or some other degree of a similar nature. The only way I get more choices is by taking more hours.



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08 Jan 2007, 3:40 pm

High school, for me, was about ten times better. It fit all of my "Aspie needs": there was a set routine and plenty of structure (went to the same classes at the same time every day, ate the same lunch every day, etc) and, at the end of the day, you could go home and get away from the idiotic peers. College isn't like that. There's too much change. There's a different schedule every day, they never serve the same thing for lunch, and worst of all, you can't escape. You must constantly be surrounded by the jerks. You try to get away, go eat by yourself- they're there. I hate it. :x The only good thing about college is my one professor who is so incredibly Aspie. I adore him. That's about it, though...
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08 Jan 2007, 4:42 pm

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High school, for me, was about ten times better. It fit all of my "Aspie needs": there was a set routine and plenty of structure (went to the same classes at the same time every day, ate the same lunch every day, etc) and, at the end of the day, you could go home and get away from the idiotic peers. College isn't like that. There's too much change. There's a different schedule every day, they never serve the same thing for lunch, and worst of all, you can't escape. You must constantly be surrounded by the jerks. You try to get away, go eat by yourself- they're there. I hate it. :x The only good thing about college is my one professor who is so incredibly Aspie. I adore him. That's about it, though...
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Can't you make your own schedule? I am just wondering because I have all my classes on the same days, and I always eat the same thing for lunch, and if I ever want to escape, I just go to the library and read a book with my headpones on.

But that could just be at my school.

As far as the end of day bit, I guess if you're living on campus and have roommates, there isn't much you can to do "escape."

Maybe it will get better...


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