What is it with the eye contact thing?

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15 Jun 2005, 4:31 pm

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When I hold eye contact with someone, I get a massive adrenaline surge. It gives me tunnel vision (my peripheral vision will actually go black if I hold it for long enough), my inhibitions are lowered, I become more agressive, I get dizzy and disorientated, my mental processes accelerate and become more fluid and I become more willing to argue. I also start sweating lots. It only works if I'm feeling fairly good to start with though; if I'm not at my best, it's just uncomfortable and I'll look away.



same here. Normally I can't make it at all, but if I do make contact, the adendrinle surge lasts for quite a while.


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16 Jun 2005, 3:14 am

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It's an effect that I deliberately make use of to render myself more capable in discussions and such.


That's really cool, Peter. I've done the same thing with other forms of overload but it never occurred to me to do it with eye contact.



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16 Jun 2005, 12:10 pm

Eye contact is something that bewilders me to no end. When I talk to someone, I often seek their eyes, only to avert my gaze when I meet them. Why I turn my eyes away is a mystery to me. I do not feel any anxiety, nor adrenaline surge, nor anything that I could identify. Nevertheless holding eye contact for more than 1 second (and for some people, more than an instant) is for some reason out of the question. Some people have "soft eyes", and I can look at them for a couple of seconds, but that's the maximum. With most people I usually move my eyes back and forth, and glance their eyes every couple of seconds. I have been told by one person that such an eye contact feels satisfactory.

I think I will do a scientific experiment with my girlfriend and try to stare in her eyes for, say, 15 seconds. Maybe the sensation would build up to a level that will allow me to identify it.



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25 Jun 2005, 2:06 am

There's this teacher I have who I have had, um, 'a lot' to deal with, and she saw me in tears, a full on emotional breakdown, I really opened up to her, and she seemed to understand, and see straight through me. She has these round probing, earnest brown eyes, and she seems to always meet my eyes, and there's always this fear that she'll see 'me' again, and I get protective, and have to tear myself away. The emotion I saw in her eyes that day sometimes still haunts me. But, I love how there's this respect between us, this kind of message that gets passed from me to her, through our eyes. I know it's kinda off-topic, but, I couldn't resist.



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25 Jun 2005, 9:51 am

I have had the same problem with my favorite teacher, soma.


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26 Jun 2005, 1:52 pm

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Well that's good, I always look at peoples mouths, it's nice to know that they don't notice it and so arn't bothered by it.


Hm, that's strange... because whenever I try to look at people's mouths, they usually do notice that I'm not making actual eye contact.

However, I've found another trick that seems to work better, thanks to someone on another forum: looking at the eyebrows.



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26 Jun 2005, 2:55 pm

I watch mouths. Actually, I do watch eyes, as long as the person isn't looking at me. Then I break contact immediately and am back to watching the mouth. I keep glancing up and if they're still looking at my eyes, I get more uncomfortable.

Yesterday I was in a conversation with a vendor at the outdoor festival I attended and it was almost like he was in some kind of stare-down with me. I SERIOUSLY WANTED the historical and cultural information he was explaining to me, so I was intently listening and watching his mouth. Everytime I let my gaze rise, he was boring holes in my eyes with his stare, all the while he was talking. It was unnerving. I finally had to mumble something to break off the conversation, accepted one of his business cards, and quickly walked away. I didn't buy the item I wanted, and was angry with myself for that after I got home.



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26 Jun 2005, 5:27 pm

I usually look at a person's nose. I learned this from a public speaking class I took. Works great at job interviews, as well as in the workplace in general.



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26 Jun 2005, 6:15 pm

Results of my experiment: it's a anxiety/panic type of feeling. The experiment was not scientifically valid, due to my failure to anticipate an important factor: my girlfriend was not able to withstand my sustained gaze for more than a couple of seconds. I believe it would be beneficial to repeat the experiment with a larger sample of subjects. ;)



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26 Jun 2005, 6:45 pm

magic wrote:
Results of my experiment: it's a anxiety/panic type of feeling. The experiment was not scientifically valid, due to my failure to anticipate an important factor: my girlfriend was not able to withstand my sustained gaze for more than a couple of seconds. I believe it would be beneficial to repeat the experiment with a larger sample of subjects. ;)


LOL You need to try on the guy I was talking to yesterday. 8O



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27 Jun 2005, 10:15 pm

Personally, the only time I get really big difficulties with eye-contact is with that teacher. I guess it's because I've been through so much with her, and because we're close, in reality, a little too close for comfort, I think she's been 'spoken to' about the whole thing, but, I believe she really brought parts of me out, paticulary in the eye-contact dept.


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05 Jul 2005, 7:16 am

I have had teachers i felt emotionally overwhelmed to face. But it seems like this teacher you speak of is accepting and understanding enouhg that if you do go to her again, she'll understand your difficulty. Also it is good to get such feelings off your chest.


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05 Jul 2005, 11:52 am

Yes... our pupils are on a magnetic dipole to other people's eyes...


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05 Jul 2005, 10:08 pm

Which is why we have to train our eye muscles to withstand the lateral forces produced, so that we can force other people to avert eye contact. Works for me at least :D.


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05 Jul 2005, 11:14 pm

*grins* Nice one! ;)



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06 Jul 2005, 1:26 am

I dislike eye contact with some people. I try to maintain it sometimes, but not much of the time.


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