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Oh come on, any old idiot can set up a CMS and install some ad code onto it, you don't need to be Steve Jobs. You're just making excuses now.

Instead of relying on anecdotes you should try a bit of social science. The research does not backup your claims based on a few anecdotes, again, calculated to sell books.

Again, most (if not all) publicly known entrepreneurs say similar things. One guy saying it can perhaps be disregarded, but you can't disregard a vast array of successful businesspeople saying something as "a few anecdotes."

The kind of thinking you're displaying is exactly the kind of thing that stops most people from bothering to make money for themselves.

I don't even know what CMS or ad code is, sounds like something that could screw up my computer. Even the stupid sites that pay you a bit to take surveys tend to end up being more trouble than they are worth. But yes I see no reason to do that, so I see no reason not to make excuses as to why I cant or wont.

Sites that pay you to take surveys are almost always scams. But a CMS is a content management system, essentially a website in a can, and ad code is simply a bit of HTML that displays ads on the CMS.

Right and how does that create an income I could live on?......and how complex is it.

The ad code will display ads relevant to your site, much like the ads on WP. If someone clicks one, you get paid. Simple.

Oh alright I guess it is........still don't see it being something I should rely on for income to live on though, but it might be something to check out.

You can't rely on it for income at first, but it can build up a surprising amount of money if you get enough traffic. If your site becomes really popular, you may very well be able to make enough to live in, but that's a possible eventuality.

I disagree.

I'm 43.

When I was in grade school, the line of "college results in a good job and prosperity" was true.

BEFORE I FINISHED HIGH SCHOOL, college graduates were struggling to get into good jobs.

BEFORE I FINISHED TWO YEARS OF COMMUNITY COLLEGE, college graduates were having to beg and compete for good jobs.

The only reason why people kept thinking that college = good job was because, ultimately, jobs were still out there to be had...you likely would work in a profession outside of what you went to school for, but all that mattered to people is that they got a job that mandated a college degree to apply.

Now, as of 2000, the college graduate was finding they COULD NOT find any work. Many were taking jobs not requiring an advanced education just to have a paycheck. In spite of this trend, academia was still promoting the lie that a college degree was a necessity for prosperity. KEEP IN MIND that the student loan companies lobbied Congress to almost totally remove bankruptcy protection for student loans BEFORE 2000. They saw the trends. They knew the numbers of graduates NOT finding good jobs was growing fast, and that would mean a massive student loan debt bubble that would implode if these borrowers were allowed to exercise their right to bankruptcy.

The changes came over 30 years, and those lending the money and running the schools knew it was coming. Still, they are working to pack the bodies into the classroom...knowing most won't find employment after graduation.

Yeah because everyone has alot of capital investment just laying around in their bank account or beneath their mattress.

I already addressed this:



I then suggested a method of making easy money from online advertising which takes about £20 max to start up, completely legit using Google services, not some dodgy get rich quick site.

I agree with a lot of the things you said. Unfortunately for me I'm interested in a career path that actually requires a college degree. It's so hard to show that you know what you're doing when there are a thousand people in the same spot as you who don't.

I think all the information one needs to learn a subject should be available online and in libraries. All one should have to do is have to take some test at some point that shows that you really do know your stuff. A government that set up something like a more rigorous wikipedia for technical subjects that was available to all its citizens and a free, more loose college system would get huge pay offs. College would be a lot less expensive for governments, the its citizens would have less debt, and it would be easier to see who was really interested and able in a subject.

Yeah it's just how strongly you are stating things and you're not fully thinking out the consequences of starting a business and failing. It's not like your debtors will just take "I lost the money and the business is closed." as an answer for where their money with INTEREST is.

Infact, the people who are probably really making the money are capital loaners. Kind of like how in the California Gold rush, the miners chances of ever finding a major gold strike was low and the people who were guaranteed to become really rich were people selling mining supplies.

Either way most of us were still made to believe the lie "working hard and graduating college practically guarantees you a good job". Moreover, I sincerely hope colleges took education more seriously in the past because it's all just a garish parody of itself now. The core of the problem is the belief that some are trying to push which is that college is for everyone. Basically standards are falling in high schools so nobody gets anything but a sliver of education there, then standards are dropping in college so it can become an extension of high school because everyone knows a high school diploma certainly means nothing. Then the first two years of college for most people is just covering what they should have just learned in high school in the first place! Wasting the time of those of us who actually matured into adults BEFORE we got out of high school. College shouldn't be for everyone! If you're of average intelligence then you should be floundering in college. Your place is in high school. But instead college is dumbed down and high school is dumbed down. The result is many young people wasting years of their life wallowing in an artificially protracted period of "education" when they could've been fully trained, educated and out in the job force making money (instead of continuing to accumulate debt) years earlier!



I scoff when people say this. The literal definition of the word is "given the legal right". Now in the sense of "what does the cold vast universe owe you" the answer is nothing and certainly not a job. But I think anyone reasonable would agree that any healthy society should believe in man's natural rights. Life is one of those rights and an opportunity to make a living (somehow) is necessary to live. Every time you tell you tell an honest, hardworking person that they're not "entitled" to a job, you are degrading individual rights.