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How would you rate your math skills?
Above average (I'm a math genius) 35%  35%  [ 56 ]
Average (I'm as good at math as everyone else) 23%  23%  [ 37 ]
Below Average (I'm am really bad at math) 42%  42%  [ 67 ]
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12 Aug 2011, 5:11 pm

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By the way I am getting more and more confused with american high school. do you actually have courses on there like courses at uni? In Germany shere are subjects that you have to take no matter how much you loathe them, and then there are subjects which you can choose not to take (and some years have subjects which you take additionally but thats only in certain years)

There are certain required courses, and some you get to choose. It varies somewhat from state to state within the US, and even from school to school, but a basic layout for a 4-year high school program is:
English required for 3-4 years
History required for 2-3 years, optional to take more (US history was not required at my school, but world history was)
Government (basic civics class) required one year
Math 3-4 years, advanced students take higher-level courses up to calculus (or differential equations or multivariable calculus, if you go to a better school); slower students may still be at pre-algebra by the time they finish high school
Biology required 1 year, optional to take a 2nd more advanced year
Chemistry same as biology
Physics optional
Foreign language required 2-3 years
At least one year of music or art is required, but there are several different options to choose from


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19 Aug 2011, 1:27 pm

I'm the best at maths in my school-year (I scored full marks on the most recent test, and was the only individual to have done so). I wouldn't say I'm a mathematical genius though; I just try very hard :D



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19 Aug 2011, 8:00 pm

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My mouth actually dropped open at the idea of a 640 on the Math SAT. 8O That is awesome!

I agree that they should give more time too. I remember wasting quite a bit of time on the math part between worrying that I wouldn't have enough time to answer the questions and staring stupidly at problems I didn't have the slightest clue how to answer.


even with the extra double time that I got because of my processing dysfunctions I still believe that to this day that the time given is not enough to do the problem and to verify your work, which is something your taught in math class from the very earliest years of word problems on.


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19 Aug 2011, 8:08 pm

Trig and Precalc are the same thing.[/quote]

that is not true Trigonometry is the study of triangles and the functions of triangles. While Precalc is typically defined as algebraic topics require for calculus not covered in algebra 2 but that may just be the US bias of mine talking but I think that is the difference he was referring too.


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19 Aug 2011, 8:14 pm

[quote="SammichEater"][quote="chrissyrun"]This needs a better scale
0- I will die before I like math
1- I do math when I am forced by violence and or yelling....F to D-
2- I do math when I am forced to by "the system" to graduate...D-
3- I do math when I have to for homework, and I can scrape by a C or D
4- I do math because I am told, pretty much average, really neutral...C
5- I can do math as much as anyone else, and get a B or C
6- I'm naturally ok at math...B
7- I slightly enjoy math, and I'm pretty good at it...B+ or A-
8- I like math, I'm not a genius, but I am good at it...A- or A
9- I really love math, and I can do it in my sleep, I haven't ever had a problem with math, and don't see how people
can...A+
10-I could spend my entire life doing math, and I would be in pure bliss, Oh, did I mention that I was related to
Einstein? [\quote]
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Oh, and it also needs to be clarified the type of math:
1- Elementary math- I am a 10
2- Algebra 1- I am 10
3- Geometry- I am 8
4- Algebra 2- I am 9
5- Trigonometry- I am 4
6- Precalculus I am 8
7- Calculus- I am 8
*Anything beyond calculus is genius in my books- disagree but I am a computer systems engineering major who needs advanced math skills in topics like differential equations or advanced engineering mathematics


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20 Aug 2011, 3:37 am

In grade school, my parents practiced multiplication and division flash cards with me, so for a time I was actually ahead of my class for math. That had all the more to do with rote memorization though. I can remember in 5th grade starting to lose understanding of what was going on in math. By 6th grade, I would spend hours after dinner sitting at the table with my parents trying to figure out homework (only not to). By 7th grade I think I started getting Ds and Fs in math. I failed high school algebra and got a D in statistics. I also failed college algebra, twice, even after trying to go to school tutors. I remember the tutor actually getting mad with me because he would try to explain something and then tell me to do the same, and I couldn't remember how or what to do. I also took finite math in high school but think I barely passed with a D.

I think I might have dyscalculia since I forget numbers/switch around digits in my head and cant carry over numbers mentally very well. Formulas always get combined strangely and inaccurately in my head. While I was failing at the math classes, I got A's and B's without much effort in everything else. People whom math come naturally to are so lucky. Not to mention, more financially rewarding careers are available.



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20 Aug 2011, 1:06 pm

I hate math, the struggle to stay awake is what's most challenging. And it doesn't matter if I have the highest grade in it, even mentally ret*d ones can acquire it in the country where I live. -.-


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22 Aug 2011, 2:50 pm

I answered #3, below average because of my history with math. My dad and brothers were all geniuses in math. In high school I made C's, D's and F's in mathematics.

Eventually I enrolled in college and had to take math 96, which was like adding and subtracting fractions. I needed the course too. When I got to math 97, I did horribly. I failed this course twice before finally squeaking out a C. It just wasn't clicking for me, even with extra time at the math lab and getting my dad to help.

So a little later I advanced to Math 1101, modeling or whatever it was called. Inexplicably I made a B in the class. I then took college algebra and made an A. Thinking I was on a roll, I signed up for pre-calculus. Whoa. Dropped after 7 weeks of falling behind at an increasing speed. I had paid a tutor to come by twice a week to help with the homework. I used to get so frustrated for not being able to understand it. He would explain it so clearly nad patiently, but I still couldn't get it. I was really bummed out that I had to drop it, but I didn't want another F on my record.

I tried the same class with another teacher the following semester, but dropped it after the first week because I couldn't understand the teacher. That was a couple years ago.

Wish me luck --- I'm signed up to take pre-calc at a smaller college (actually a tech school) so we'll see how it goes this time.



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05 Sep 2011, 12:22 am

I think i'm pretty terrible at math but I somehow can remember formulas off the top of my head. I don't know how to apply them though.

Radical formula

radical x, x always postive from zero to infinite, so follows all the way to the right until whenever. I haven't decided if I believe in infinite or if it can be reached. so whenever sounds good for infinite.

1/1-radical1-x x can't equal zero because 1-0 is still 1 and square root of 1 is 1 and would make the fraction undefined. Don't know what undefined means either.

or radical x-6 then write the domains and ranges for them. domain is y value range is x value


or the change formula deltax+c - fx/ dx then differentiate plug deltax+c into the formula. find the change in x.

1/x is graph formula, x can't equal zero, shows x infinitely approaching zero from the positive and negative side but never reaches zero.


undefined and defined we have went into, and continuity, also the squeeze theorom but haven't looked at it yet.

(x+2)(x-2)
x^2-4/x-2

also look like this (x+2)(x-2)/(x-2)

x can't equal positive 2 or would be undefined, would be a open circle at x=2 on the graph but a closed circle at x=-2.

EDIT- x^2-4/x-2 is a removable at x=2 so you would (x+2)(x-2) the numerator and divide by the original cancel out common which would make it x+2..

1/1-cos2x x cant not equal 0 because at 0 degrees cos equals 1 which would make it undefined.

also working on epsilon and delta graphing or something and haven't looked at that either. seems pretty difficult.

radical x^2 = absolute value lxl because same thing as every absolute x value is a positive x value.

I always say math isn't hard, its just not easy.



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13 Sep 2011, 10:56 pm

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(In Grade six there was this daily quiz done to improve mental arithmetic skills, where one was given a minute to solve 100 arithmetic questions. When most people got to the 80th question by the end of the 60 seconds, I was stuck in the 14 - 17 range.). I haven't failed at any math I've done (yet) per se, and can do it relatively well, but I take a long time and it doesn't seem to be improving as much as it should with practice.


We had what was called "Mad Minute" ( :roll: ) in third grade- 60 basic "times tables" multiplication problems in 60 seconds.
Sometimes I would get to ten by the end (six seconds a problem) and feel so proud of myself.
I don't know how they think learning works, but doing the equivalent of firing a gun and stressing rapid, immediate problem-solving isn't the way for some.

I still don't know my times tables beyond 4.


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14 Sep 2011, 10:57 pm

I'm decent at it. Top of my class in Algebra though. :)


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17 Sep 2011, 2:19 am

Not in top math set or bottom so im just average :P


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17 Sep 2011, 4:47 am

Wow, the SAT scores remind me of my high school days. They were a while back & I don't remember them exactly. I just remember that everyone in class was sharing theirs and I was ashamed because my combined score was lower than most of the other kids even though my reading score was really high. The math section was so poor that it just dragged the whole thing down. I'm awful at it.



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18 Sep 2011, 2:58 am

I like to consider myself a math genius. If you need math help and I know the material just send me a PM and I will be glad to help.


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18 Sep 2011, 4:26 am

chrissyrun wrote:
SammichEater wrote:
Trig and Precalc are the same thing.


Then why are thy offered as 2 different classes? Hmmmmm.


Cos the department of education cant pay for decent programs and need to call it two different things so that the app doesnt crash.


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29 Sep 2011, 1:57 am

That scale from the end of page 1 is excellent:

This needs a better scale
0- I will die before I like math
1- I do math when I am forced by violence and or yelling....F to D-
2- I do math when I am forced to by "the system" to graduate...D-
3- I do math when I have to for homework, and I can scrape by a C or D
4- I do math because I am told, pretty much average, really neutral...C
5- I can do math as much as anyone else, and get a B or C
6- I'm naturally ok at math...B
7- I slightly enjoy math, and I'm pretty good at it...B+ or A-
8- I like math, I'm not a genius, but I am good at it...A- or A
9- I really love math, and I can do it in my sleep, I haven't ever had a problem with math, and don't see how people
can...A+
10-I could spend my entire life doing math, and I would be in pure bliss, Oh, did I mention that I was related to
Einstein?
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Oh, and it also needs to be clarified the type of math:
1- Elementary math
2- Algebra 1
3- Geometry
4- Algebra 2
5- Trigonometry
6- Precalculus
7- Calculus
*Anything beyond calculus is genius in my books
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So here's where I stand:

1. 10. I just wanted to get the hell on to Algebra.
2. 10
3. 9. Some challenge, but got all of it
4. 10
5. 9, have to stop and think about which two sides I'm comparing with sin, cos, tan
6. 10
7. 8, first truly challenging level for me
8a. Probability - 10
8b. Statistics - 8 (always found that challenging, but once motivated in school I got an A)