80% of aspies fail out/unemployed after 4+years of college

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That would hurt the economy quite a bit. You'd be spending millions if not billions of tax dollars on people who drop out, don't complete, do very poorly, etc. It would also make the degrees more and more meaningless as standards drop to cope with it.

How much money is spent on kids graduating high school who don't know what they want to do, are very immature, only want to go to college to party, end up going and dropping out? Do we really want to pay for that? Why not encourage them to go trade schools and learn to be become auto mechanics, plumbers, electricians, etc? Many people only want to go to college for status. They don't want to go to a trade school because they view it as lower than a degree. Society should try to change this.

I agree that college shouldn't have the social status that it currently bestows, but I don't see how lowering tuition would result in the lowering of college graduation standards. Wouldn't college entrance requirements still be high? In fact couldn't college entrance requirements be set even higher? There are only so many spaces available for students at colleges, and there'd be more applicants if you remove the tuition barrier, but if you're not qualified to go to college, you aren't qualified, regardless of whether you have the money to pay for your own tuition or not.

I would agree with you BUT, it's a bogus argument. 50 years ago, a HIGH SCHOOL graduate had the vocational skills and head knowledge to go out and do most ANY job available. College was reserved for advanced education and very few could go to college.

In that time, almost all meaningful vocational training has been removed from high schools and colleges spend most of their time teaching fairly rudimentary employment skills kids used to know by the time they reached 18. This has done much to diminish the value of a college education.

I may take a "conspiracy" view of things, but I've watched public education basically "dumb down" the average student so that college becomes "mandatory" for employment, and the problem is that high school is supposed to be the "mandatory" standard...but most kids come out of high school unequipped to go to work and need to borrow money to pay for additional education.

I think the bottom line is money. I know guys who make huge money in trades, some who dropped out of high school. And then I know guys with degrees who don't make s**t. What matters more at the end of the day: having a job/degree with "status" or having a big paycheck? I'll take the paycheck...

Agreed, if anything I think elementary and high school education needs to be shored up so that colleges don't have to pick up the slack for deficiencies that should've been remedied in a student a long time ago. Parents also need to do a better job in parenting and not spoiling the kids, instead of making the schools babysit them, which in turn uses school resources which otherwise would be used to keep academic standards high. High school education should mean something.

Look no further than Singapore, where a plurality of people can choose to go to technical colleges or polytechnics then find themselves employed in a basic job. Drawbacks: academic stress in all fronts, as well as little access to university/higher education...

I only went university to escape my parents who never understood my condition, treat me same way as everyone else assuming that i know what to do against whatever the world throws at me and it is still the same to this day

If it weren't for my parents, I may not even be in college right now. It sucks having to worry about whether a school or profession is right for you and on top of that not having anyone to talk to about it either.

I'm going to do what MANY people tell you not to do but...it's not our fault entirely.

Sure, we can work our asses off and learn nothing for years at a time but in the end, the only way to truly succeed is by being a literal socialite with spot on social skills and no difficulty in communication. Sad but true. The only way for success for us is self study.

Or perhaps move to another planet. I hear some people are working on that.

80%, eh? At least it's not just me.

I think the 80% figure is a gross exaggeration.

Tell it all to my agent when he lands me a good job.

This almost makes me glad I didn't go because I probably would have dropped out anyway. I've already dropped out of TAFE twice. The difference being that TAFE only costs a few hundred dollars per year.

This is not a support group. It is a gathering of like people. There are support forums, just as there are forums for the arts and science.

I think student loans are insane.
Is it better to take up a trade?
If your relatives have PhD's, will they despise you if you are a plumber or electrician?